To me the battle AI was better in Rome 1, then in 2 and i hoping they mix the two and come up with something great.
To me the battle AI was better in Rome 1, then in 2 and i hoping they mix the two and come up with something great.
Am I the only one thinking those circular icons instead of flags are made to appeal to mobile wielding casuals?
>When the apostle openly displayed Islam as God ordered him his people did not withdraw or turn against him, so far as I have heard, until he spoke disparagingly of their gods. When he did that they took great offence and resolved unanimously to treat him as an enemy, except those whom God had protected by Islam from such evil, but they were a despised minority. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 166, 167)
>They said, ‘O Abu Talib, your nephew has cursed our gods, insulted our religion, mocked our way of life and accused our forefathers of error; either you must stop him or you must let us get at him, for you yourself are in the same position as we are in opposition to him and we will rid you of him.’ (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 167, 168)
>They [the Quraysh] said that they had never known anything like the trouble they had endured from this fellow; he had declared their mode of life foolish, insulted their forefathers, reviled their religion, divided the community, and cursed their gods. What they had borne was past all bearing, or words to that effect (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 183).
After which he sent raids to attack Meccan caravans, the Meccans fight back and he only wins due to the fact that the raiders had fanatical devotion to their beloved prophet, converting people by force, and those who have seen the massacres commited by the muslims convert out of fear, the rest can live as third class citizens of course as long as they are christian or jews, pagans or anyone else will be eliminated.
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I'm glad Darren was honest on this. I was hoping for another Napoleon Total War type comeback, but unfortunately it just seems like a slightly more involved dlc. Oh well. If I want to play Rome 2 Total War, I'll just go play Rome 2 Total War. No need to waste another $30 for the same game.
And upcoming R2 mods look promising. Much rather play those than wait till CA patches it 7 times so its balanced and then 10 more times to fix performance issues.
they did, here's the full text of what Muhammad told them and what they responded, from the Most accepted Islamic Source on his Biography:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
what he said to them is already Mentioned in the Qur'an: {How do you worship besides God something which has no power either to harm or to benefit you?} {5:76}
this question did indeed offend them, though it was not a Pointless insult like "Curse your Idols", rather it was a rhetorical Question to show them that Idols which they themselves create can never be Divine.
mmm unfortunately you got that incorrectly, he did not attack them because they did not believe in him, at the beginning, when he openly declared his message, he did not kill or harm anyone, he was telling them his opinion on their Idols, when they saw that he gained followers, they tortured anyone who followed him, and killed them, so who attacked the other first? it was Quraish who tortured his followers and attempted to killed Muhammad several times, after 10 years of prosecution, Muhammad and his followers secretly left Mecca, leaving their families, wealth and homes, when Quraish heard that they escaped, they took the wealth and houses, and enslaved the women, when you see your unarmed followers tortured to death you are expected to do something to stop it.
other thing here you got completely wrong, there is no mention in any source of Forced conversions or annihilating of Jews and Christians, in fact, large numbers of Jews and Christians remained in Arabia Magna even until the Times of the Abbasids, and there are over 400,00 Yemeni Jews today ( though most of them immigrated after the Creation of Israel ) the Prophet Muhammad in his own words said that Christians and Jews are to be respected, never forcibly converted or Overtaxed, ( Source: Bukhari, Kitab Ahl Al-Thimmah ) the Qur'an makes no distinction between the Tax that Muslims pay and the Tax paid Christians and Jews.
by the way, we shouldn't discuss this here, please send me your reply as PM or VM.
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Aye, thanks Darren. I'll be avoiding this until it's modded to hell and the price comes way down.
And to those who thought he was Welsh?!
Seems this will be just as as Rome 2... I've already seen enough with what has been shown so far.
Time to farm up for Shogun 2 : http://raptr.com/store/item/total-wa...t&category=all XD
Pfff... Same mistakes and bugs as in R2TW battles. I was doubtful, but now I'm not buying.
Thanks for being honest, Darren.
PD: Plus, I,' really annoyed they're gonna charge us for the blood again. (Thats what it seems as it was removed from the first Attila videos)
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45 bucks for Rome II: Barbarian Invasion. Really shame on anyone that buys this.
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Please keep the "ur religion sux" diatribes where they belong. Which is actually nowhere. Let's keep this topic about the games.
Speaking of which I'm not against a hypothetical TW game set during the early Islamic conquests and featuring the Byz..err sorry the Eastern Roman Empire, Sassanids, the emerging Arab Caliphate and Gokturks as playable factions. The controversy of visually depicting Muhammad can be avoided by setting the campaign's start date at 632 AD, but I wonder how faithful Muslims would react to the game featuring Arab historical protagonists such as Abu Bakr, Umar and military commander Khalid al-Walid?
Great review Darren, and as a few others have stated I thought the "look" of the graphics in the battle looked cluttered and to me downgraded from previous. Maybe just my perception, but all in all I was disappointed by the look and apparent immersion this offered me. I was getting excited about the game , but now have reservations. That said I am only too aware of how I had my expectations shattered when Rome II first came out , so I ought to be cautious and lower my expectations accordingly - sigh!!!!
You really cannot review a beta version of the game - as Darren said himself this is a preview of an old beta build he was given access to.
I'm pretty sure he will do a review when he's given a final copy of the game or buys it as it would be misleading to call this video a review.
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As we've found out so painfully before, the beta versions shown of Rome 2 were actually vastly better than what we got in reality. So while you're logic holds true for most things, with this new game series from CA, we should expect far worse from the final product, if we're intellectually honest about it.
Furthermore, the fact that they would remove realistic battle identifiers (like unit flags and the smaller banners) to replace them with browser flash game style icons in the first place is extremely disconcerting.
''The game is in way way pre-alpha so the real game will look even much much better than this. We have a budget larger..................''
Thanks Darren for your objectivity. I've got to admit it doesn't look like anything I'll be rushing to buy.