United States - Information and Discussion

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Flikitos Quintus Hortensius Hortalus wangrin

Faction Summary

First, the bad news: The US unit rooster will be very limited at the start of the campaign.
Now, the good news. you will have greater variety of light infantry units to recruit than European factions.
The US campaign will be very challenging!

Compared to other fractions in Imperial Splendour the United States will have just one of the three eras. However, it will be split into two distinct time periods.
After the the American War of Independence the Continental Army was disbanded and the regular United States army had a strength of only 1 regiment. This "early" late era will be a period where your access to regular army units will be limited. It may be advisable that you not start a war with anyone!
As you developed your technology and knowledge, you will be able to recruit the Legion of the United States ; a well trained army capable of fighting in open terrain and along the American frontier.
Furthermore, you will have historical generals like Nathanael Green, Anthony Wayne and Arthur St. Clair

United States Government

At start of the campaign you have access to the historical government of the United States: President: Elias Boudinot Secretary of State: Robert R. Livingston Secretary of the Treasury: Robert Morris Attorney General: Thomas McKean Secretary of War: Benjamin Lincoln Secretary of the Navy: Gouverneur Morris Opposition: 1st: George Washington 2nd: John Adams 3rd: Thomas Jefferson 4th: Alexander Hamilton 5th: Henry Knox

Unit List

To be placed here

Building Chain

Building Chain

Technologies

The United States will have their own army and philosophy techtrees to represent the unique development of the United States during the late 18 century. Philosophy Techtree The Philosophy Techtree is divided into 4 different parts. At first there is the scientific advance like "Learned Society". The 2nd part are general political ideas like the "Federal System" and consequently the 3rd the acts to transform the ideas into laws and politics. Finally the 4th are economic ideas and measures. 1.2 Social Contract 2.1 Empiricism 3.2 Separation of Powers 4.1 Encyclopedie 5.2 Common Government 6.1 Learned Society 6.2 Declaration of Independence 6.3 Virginia Declaration of Rights 7.2 Articles of Confederation 8.1 Scientific Method 8.2 Federalism 8.4 National Bank 9.2 Constitution 9.3 Judiciary Act 9.4 Coinage Act 10.2 Alien and Sedition Acts Army Techtree As the US did not launch a great army or great army reforms in the late 18th century your option are limited here: 6.1 Continental Army 7.2 Regulations for the Order and Discipline of the Troops of the United States 8.1 First American Regiment Resolution 10.1 Legion of the United States 11.1 Militia Acts 12.3 Military Academy

Graphics Development

Graphics Development At last the United States will have a unique prestige building: The Capitol! The model is made after the original plans of Dr. William Thornton and does not represent the today's building.

[GatorMarine1833]

Of the units pictured, is one of them United States Marines? The three models on the right look pretty close with only slight differences.

[Quintus Hortensius Hortalus]

No there are no Marines since the navy was only reestablished in 1798. The 3 units on the right are the Legion of the United States; to be exact: the Line Infantry, Light Infantry and the Riflemen.

[GatorMarine1833]

If the US player has the ability to recruit naval vessels, would that not be the same thing, more or less, as establishing a navy?

I would think that it's essentially the same issue. The United States didn't reestablish the navy until 1798, but surely players can recruit ships in the campaign.

Going off memory here, the United States didn't have a navy at all after the ships used in the AWI were returned to military service. The USS Constitution was one of the first six ships authorized to be build by US. It was ordered built in 1794, but wasn't finished until 1797. My point being that even though the US Navy and Marine Corps weren't reestablished until 1798, they were in the process of building up a Navy earlier.

[Cro_Hunger999]

~United States - military commanders (that were left out)~

William North (1755 - 1836)

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Otho Holland Williams (1749 – 1794)

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Henry Jackson (1747 – 1809)

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Thomas Humphrey Cushing (1755 – 1822)

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William Smallwood (1732 – 1792)

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Peter Gansevoort (1749 – 1812)

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Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (1746 – 1825)

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Edward Hand (1744-1802)

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John Sevier (1745 – 1815)

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Thomas Sumter (1734 – 1832)

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[Cro_Hunger999]

Been a while since I posted anything, it's good to be back.

~United States~

State Flag:


The First Official Navy Flag 1777-1795 (U.S.S. Ranger Flag):


President: Elias Boudinot (1740 – 1821)

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After Elias Boudinot several more "presidents" followed until the official proclamation of George Washington as the 1st President of the United States in 1789. They include (chronologically):

Thomas Mifflin (1744 – 1800)

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Richard Henry Lee (1732 – 1794)

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John Hancock (1737 – 1793)

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Nathaniel Gorham (1738 – 1796)

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Arthur St. Clair (1737 – 1818)

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Cyrus Griffin (1748 – 1810)

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And finally George Washington (1732 – 1799) who held the office as the 1st President of the United States from April 30, 1789 till March 4, 1797:

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Ministers:

1. United States Secretary of Foreign Affairs (later United States Secretary of State): Robert R. Livingston (1746 - 1813)

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2. Superintendent of Finance of the United States (later United States Secretary of the Treasury): Robert Morris (1734 – 1806)

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3. Chief Justice: Thomas McKean (1734 – 1817)

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4. United States Secretary at War: Benjamin Lincoln (1733 – 1810)

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5. United States Secretary of the Navy: Gouverneur Morris (1752 – 1816)

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Opposition:

1. John Jay (1745 – 1829)

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2. Alexander Hamilton (1755 – 1804)

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3. Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826)

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4. Henry Knox (1750 – 1806)

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5. John Adams (1735 – 1826)

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[Cro_Hunger999]

~United States - envoys~

William Carmichael (1739 – 1795) - minister to Spain (1783 - 1794)

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William Short (1759 – 1849) - minister to Spain (1794 - 1795), the Netherlands (1792 - 1792) and France (1790 - 1792)

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David Humphreys (1752 – 1818) - minister to Spain (1796 - 1801) and Portugal (1791 - 1797)

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James Monroe (1758 – 1831) - minister to France (1794 - 1796), UK (1803 - 1807)

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Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (1746 – 1825) - minister to France (1796 - 1797)

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Robert R. Livingston (1746 - 1813) - minister to France (1801 - 1804)

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John Quincy Adams (1767 - 1848) - minister to the Netherlands (1794 - 1797), Portugal (1796 - 1797) and Prussia (1797 - 1801)

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William Vans Murray (1760 – 1803) - minister to the Netherlands (1797 - 1801)

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John Adams (1735 – 1826) - minister to the Netherlands (1782 - 1788) and Britain (1785 - 1788)

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William Loughton Smith (1758 – 1812) - minister to Portugal (1797 - 1801)

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[Cro_Hunger999]

Here are two more American inventors:

David Rittenhouse (1732 - 1796) was a renowned American astronomer, inventor, clockmaker, mathematician, surveyor, scientific instrument craftsman and public official. Rittenhouse was a member of the American Philosophical Society and the first director of the United States Mint.

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Benjamin Rush (1746 - 1813) was a Founding Father of the United States. Rush was a civic leader in Philadelphia, where he was a physician, politician, social reformer, humanitarian, and educator as well as the founder of Dickinson College. Rush attended the Continental Congress and signed the Declaration of Independence. His later self-description there was: "He aimed right." He served as Surgeon General of the Continental Army and became a professor of chemistry, medical theory, and clinical practice at the University of Pennsylvania.

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[SpardaSon21]

From your own Wikipedia link on the United States Legion, it describes it as a brigade-sized force comprised of 4 separate combined-arms regimental forces, each containing dragoons, line infantry, rifles, and artillery. That certainly seems like a major reform to me, even by European standards. Baron von Steuben's drill techniques emphasizing close cooperation among all ranks in terms of both battle and preparing for it through training are what I would also consider a significant reform, given that a conventional European force of the time kept officers at arm's length from the common soldiery.

EDIT: We also had substantial artillery, especially at the Springfield Armory founded by Henry Knox. Two things from that article. First: "In 1793, the National Arsenal contained brass ordnance, howitzers (emphasis added), traveling carriages, shot strapt, canisters filled, quilted grape, iron shot, shells, powder, musket ball, cylinders, caps, paper cartridges, fuzes filled, muskets, swords, various military stores, and implements. In 1795, the Springfield Armory produced the new nation's first musket."

So, from there we can see that the U.S. had howitzers ready to use during this time frame.

And second: "The Springfield Armory was largely involved in the growth and influence of the Industrial Revolution. Much of this grew out of the military's fascination with interchangeable parts, which was based on the theory that it would be easier to simply replace firearm parts than make battlefield repairs. Mass production of truly interchangeable parts demanded greater use of machines, improved gauging, quality control, and division of labor; all characteristics of the Industrial Revolution. From these individual components, the concept of the assembly line was devised."

Secondly, from this we can see that it was key to artillery and industrial research, and for things that fit inside the E: TW time frame such as improved measuring tools and interchangeable parts.

[PikeStance]

Thank you for sharing!

[IGdood]

So just started the US campaign; and based on the first post it is intended that I'm only able to recruit State Militia and Levies until I build the Army Board right?

[Quintus Hortensius Hortalus]

So just started the US campaign; and based on the first post it is intended that I'm only able to recruit State Militia and Levies until I build the Army Board right?

Yes, you're right.

[Ghip]

Will the United States have any War of 1812 units?

[Quintus Hortensius Hortalus]

Will the United States have any War of 1812 units?

No, the US will only have late 18th century units, hoever there is a great mod covering that war.

[PikeStance]

The War of 1812 Mod