Help us Find bugs that cause Game stopping impassable turns do to CTDs. Like the Infamous "turn 15" Crash.

**Eldren** · November 02, 2014, 02:30 PM

This thread is to help us Find bugs that cause Game stopping impassable turns do to CTDs. Like the Infamous "turn 15" Crash.
Any and all Help is appreciated and wanted.

Here Below is the Method/Formula for finding and reporting Bugs that cause Game stopping impassable turns do to CTDs...
Please fallow and do all Steps for the best Bug Report on this topic.

Spoiler for Bug Report Method:

@ All Players and Fans of HTW.
If People can take some time out of there schedules. To post here a Bug Report using the Method above. When they come acrossed a "Game stopping impassable turn do to a CTD" in their campaign. That would be greatly appreciated and awesome.

We then can analyze it and work out a solution. And in-return you'll get less bugs and irritated in HTW.

While making HTW Epic and more refined.

Edit:
For those who don't want to help, and just want a workaround method to a "Game stopping impassable turn do to a CTD".
There are 3 ways:
1) Before you end the turn that has the CTD. Lower All Video, Audio and possible game Settings to Zero/off. And Turn (watch AI turn)(Off). Also If you have the cheat on that makes it so there is no Fog of War. Turn that cheat off.
After all this. End your turn. If you bypass the CTD. You may turn back on any of the stuff you turn off.

2) After you find your campaign is on a "Game stopping impassable turn do to a CTD". Load that Campaign's save file that is just before the CTD. After that Start a New Campaign. And just Skip every thing by ending the turn. Keep skipping turns until you come to the turn that is just before the CTD.(Don't Cause the CTD to happen, or this method might not work.) After that, Load back up your first Campaign that you wanted to get past the CTD. And play as normal. If it works, the Irritating CTD will not occur.

3) If the CTD is cause by one of your Forces fighting it out with some one else. Then ether have your army with drew. Use the Auto resolve battle button, or use the Auto win cheat. To bypass it.

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Edit:
If your interested, you can also look at this thread here:
{Discussion thread to help fix CTDs that occur, Do to Winning Battles against multiple Armies.}
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ultiple-Armies

**Drazule** · November 02, 2014, 03:56 PM

To Cheat:
Hit the ` or ~ key and type "toggle_fow" and hit enter.
Do the same to bring the Fog of War back.

**rusty887** · November 02, 2014, 09:33 PM

edit- nvm htw already uses trace logs >.>

**tf_** · November 04, 2014, 12:44 PM

Although it's not necessarily game-stopping, I'll repost my Vaati findings from another thread here. Don't have any crash logs though.

I think he caused a CTD for me, but not in the same way Mazuras or Manhandlites do at the start.
He was the general of a Darknut army, and it was going fine for about 5 minutes. I was charging Vaati (the unit) with a unit of chariots, which seemed to just keep running into the 3 of him. I sent them to charge into the back of another unit instead, and then at some point it crashed. One of the Vaatis could have been killed, since the chariots were firing the whole time, but other than that I'm not sure.
Really, an assassin would be the best way to deal with him.

Also, not really relevant, but a fairly large Darknut army with one unit of Mazura in is incredibly annoying. I want to be able to fight the battle myself, but it'll just crash.

Update: Just tried the battle again, a couple of times. In the first one, a stray trebuchet fireball hit Vaati, killed the general unit (with the shot of the general dying) and one of the other Vaatis, and made the third one invisible, untouchable, and immobile, with only a cloud of dust to indicate the unit was there. I routed/captured the rest of the army, but was forced to quit because I couldn't attack this last 'unit' and it wouldn't rout. I could right-click on ghost-Vaati to attack it, but infantry would just do a shield-bash animation repeatedly, and archers would quickly switch from 'reloading' to 'firing' and back, without doing either. I've had this problem with Armogohma and Beam Golems before, not sure what causes it. The game didn't CTD in this case.

The second time, I started the battle as normal. I targeted Vaati with a trebuchet, and fairly soon after the game crashed. I'm starting to think it's something to do with a unit targeting Vaati: the game didn't crash when he was hit by a trebuchet aiming for a different unit, but did before he was even hit in a different battle. The first crash was also after my chariots attacked him.

**Eldren** · November 04, 2014, 10:38 PM

I've hit a small snag.

Can some one Post a step by step way on how to do the Process of Uploading Files and attaching them to a post.
We could use it to help people know how to help us on this thread.

Well for me, I can't figure it out for the life of me.

At least, I can post Pix.

But that's all.

@ Drazule.
Thanks.

@rusty887.
What was that?

@tf_.
Thanks for your input.

@ all.
Would any one else like to contribute?

Edit:

Originally Posted by Drazule

And you can attatch files in the 'advanced reply' as opposed to the 'quick reply'.

Thanks again Drazule. I found one of your old posts. Hope you don't mined.

**Eldren** · November 05, 2014, 02:58 PM

So fallowing the Bug report method for this thread I have posted my findings.
It is in a Ziped file.

At the time. I was using the HTW game with out any Hyrule Historia. + the (Community Patch 4c), + all 3 parts to (Tedster's Submod

+ trait balancing).

I was playing a Darknut Campaign. And the constant CTD was when I ended turn 15.

Bug Reports for CTDs.zip

**tedster1995** · November 05, 2014, 05:51 PM

Wait all three parts? You should only need the patch version that has everything. That could be why you had those problems you posted in the main thread, I think I need to clean up that first page I think too many people are getting confused.

**Eldren** · November 05, 2014, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by tedster1995

Wait all three parts? You should only need the patch version that has everything. That could be why you had those problems you posted in the main thread, I think I need to clean up that first page I think too many people are getting confused.

Well at least the workaround methods Work.

They let me continue my campaign.

And ya... If you think that is the problem for me and others. It would probably be a good idea to fix that.

**Eldren** · April 01, 2015, 09:31 PM

Bump.....

**warl0rd13** · August 13, 2015, 02:03 PM

Turn 15 crash while playing darknuts, here's the log:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Apani** · August 13, 2015, 02:21 PM

I'd copy a random .tga file, rename it "Vaati_info" and put it into that folder. That could prevent the crash at least.

**warl0rd13** · August 14, 2015, 12:22 AM

Didn't work, something about water now.

The log:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Eldren** · August 14, 2015, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by warl0rd13

Didn't work, something about water now.

The log:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

What Version and what Patches Do you have?

Also you may just want to wait until Neph Releases that new Version Of HTW.

He said It's coming out soon.

But it may need a hot fix Like all releases.

Who knows.

Edit:
If your stuck on the Infamous "turn 15" Crash. I recommend rereading the First Post of this thread. It tells you how to by pass it.

**UndyingNephalim** · August 15, 2015, 09:13 PM

Well, it seems that the turn 15 crash is indeed tied to Zola invasions, though not directly. I tried spawning them on earlier and later turns and there seems to be no issue. I have no clue why it's specifically turn 15 that they cause a CTD. My only guess is that spawning them in conjunction with another event that goes down on that turn causes problems. Can someone else try setting them to spawn at a different turn (such as 14). I'd like to confirm this before I release a new version only to have half the players report that it's not solved and then I spend another week bashing my head against the monitor as I deny myself what I really want to work on to fix bugs.

**tedster1995** · August 16, 2015, 06:15 PM

One thing I noticed in the code is that the Zola spawn on the players turn rather then the actual Zolas turn, which is probably why there is so much lag and then for some clearly a crash, it seems the reason for this is because the game thinks that the pop up that tells you they are invading is the trigger for summoning the armies rather then it being a specific Zola turn, perhaps separating the event pop up and the invasion code would fix it perhaps?

**Don Juan_de_Austria** · August 18, 2015, 12:31 PM

Installed the 3.8:

I end turn 14 and it crashes when the rebells are at turn. Ikana is under siege from Ordona and I guess the rebells are starting a counterattack because my camera locks there before the crash. I tried it three times and the last log-entrys were always identical...

M2TW.system.log:
"8:39:42.906 [system.io] [trace] exists: 8668: caching file: mods/hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/zuna_stalfosjoin_accepted.tga (1340199622)
18:39:42.906 [system.io] [trace] exists: 8669: caching file: mods/hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/zuna_twilijoin_accepted.tga (1340200794)
18:39:42.906 [system.io] [trace] exists: 8670: caching file: mods/hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/zuna_wizzrobejoin_accepted.tga (1340201314)
18:39:42.906 [system.io] [trace] exists: 8671: caching file: mods/hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/zuna_zolajoin_accepted.tga (1347652044)
18:39:42.906 [system.io] [trace] exists: 8672: caching file: mods/hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/zuna_zorajoin_accepted.tga (1339847628)
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/earthquake.tga
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [trace] exists: 2053: caching directory: data/ui/southern_european/eventpics
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: directory non-existant: data/ui/southern_european/eventpics
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/earthquake.tga.dds
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/earthquake.tga
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/earthquake.tga.dds
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/southern_european/eventpics/earthquake.tga
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/historic_event.tga (from: I:\Winni\Neu\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/historic_event.tga.dds
18:39:42.907 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/historic_event.tga (from: I:\Winni\Neu\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
18:39:43.666 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal."

hyrule.script.log:
"18:39:41.639 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083d_Update_Enemies_Allies> fired
18:39:41.640 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083d_Update_Enemies_Allies> fired
18:39:41.641 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083d_Update_Enemies_Allies> fired
18:39:41.642 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083d_Update_Enemies_Allies> fired
18:39:41.644 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083d_Update_Enemies_Allies> fired
18:39:41.811 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <if> at line 118331 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:41.811 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118332 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:41.811 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118341 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:41.851 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118349 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:41.969 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118357 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.074 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118366 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.157 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118386 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.157 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <terminate_monitor> at line 118395 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.157 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <if> at line 118414 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.158 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118415 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.158 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118426 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.244 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118434 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.362 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118442 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.370 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118450 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.488 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118453 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.488 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <terminate_monitor> at line 118458 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.488 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <if> at line 118479 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.488 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118480 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.488 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118490 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.607 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118499 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.726 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118507 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.736 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <spawn_army> at line 118515 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.854 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118518 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.855 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <terminate_monitor> at line 118523 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt"

The zip. is after I set video to low, game crashed. (Tomorrow I will try the other tips to bypass crashes^^)

**UndyingNephalim** · August 18, 2015, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Don Juan_de_Austria

18:39:42.854 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_events> at line 118518 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
18:39:42.855 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <terminate_monitor> at line 118523 in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt"

The zip. is after I set video to low, game crashed. (Tomorrow I will try the other tips to bypass crashes^^)

It's the effing River Zoras spawning again. I'm ready to freaking nuke them from the game at this rate. I really don't get why I get no crashes at freaking all with them when they spawn but almost everyone else seems to. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggggggggggggggg.

As a temporary solution for you personally, open up the file called campaign_script.txt and scroll down to line 118476. Delete the following block of text:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

monitor_event EventCounter EventCounterType zola_invasion
        and EventCounter > 0
        if I_EventCounter zola_invasion == 1
                add_events
                    event    historic    zola_invasion
                    date    27    
                end_add_events


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Kalelark, general, age 40, x 186, y 97, portrait general_zola4, direction S
            unit        Cueball Dragoons     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Koglark, general, age 40, x 203, y 93, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Zola Catapult     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Cyclops Ku     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0            
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Korz, general, age 40, x 261, y 161, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        River Knights     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Kakroz, general, age 40, x 111, y 124, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        Geozards     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Cannibals     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                        add_events
                event    counter zola_attack3
                date 1
            end_add_events
        
        end_if
    terminate_monitor                
    end_monitor

Sadly you won't have any River Zoras running around, but I'm willing to bet no one cares anymore since they just seem to ruin the game.
I'll probably just have them already spawned on the campaign map in the next version like everyone else.

**tedster1995** · August 18, 2015, 05:26 PM

It is the strangest bug I have ever seen in a game because of how random it is, some people crash others just get some lag it doesn't make sense. Seeing as I'm making these community patches now I could have at trying a few different options to see if that will fix it, but the only problem is seeing as I don't get the crash myself i will need some people who actually do to test it for me :/

**Don Juan_de_Austria** · August 19, 2015, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by UndyingNephalim

It's the effing River Zoras spawning again. I'm ready to freaking nuke them from the game at this rate. I really don't get why I get no crashes at freaking all with them when they spawn but almost everyone else seems to. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggggggggggggggg.

As a temporary solution for you personally, open up the file called campaign_script.txt and scroll down to line 118476. Delete the following block of text:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

monitor_event EventCounter EventCounterType zola_invasion
        and EventCounter > 0
        if I_EventCounter zola_invasion == 1
                add_events
                    event    historic    zola_invasion
                    date    27    
                end_add_events


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Kalelark, general, age 40, x 186, y 97, portrait general_zola4, direction S
            unit        Cueball Dragoons     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Koglark, general, age 40, x 203, y 93, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Zola Catapult     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Cyclops Ku     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0            
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Korz, general, age 40, x 261, y 161, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        River Knights     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                spawn_army 
            faction zola
            character    Cap_Kakroz, general, age 40, x 111, y 124, portrait general_zola, direction S
            unit        Geozards     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Manhunters     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
            unit        Cannibals     exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end


                        add_events
                event    counter zola_attack3
                date 1
            end_add_events
        
        end_if
    terminate_monitor                
    end_monitor

Sadly you won't have any River Zoras running around, but I'm willing to bet no one cares anymore since they just seem to ruin the game.
I'll probably just have them already spawned on the campaign map in the next version like everyone else.

Well thanks for the fast response, sadly it still isn´t working... maybe I did something wrong... Error log attached, also attached a copy of the original campaign_script.txt and the campaing_script.txt where I deleted the collumns.

As for the River Zora, in the last version I had the crash once and than never again, so its a very strange bug... and if I could enjoy a crash-free game I will gladly renounce the River Zora attaks.^^

**Don Juan_de_Austria** · August 19, 2015, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Eldren

2) After you find your campaign is on a "Game stopping impassable turn do to a CTD". Load that Campaign's save file that is just before the CTD. After that Start a New Campaign. And just Skip every thing by ending the turn. Keep skipping turns until you come to the turn that is just before the CTD.(Don't Cause the CTD to happen, or this method might not work.) After that, Load back up your first Campaign that you wanted to get past the CTD. And play as normal. If it works, the Irritating CTD will not occur.

Tried it out and worked! Thanks!
I got past the Zora Invasion crash, don´t know if it worked because I deleted the scriptlines UN recomendet (thanks again!) and my savegame hadn´t recognized that before I followed your suggestion Eldren, or for other reason, but who cares?, I´m now in turn 16

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