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    Default [RESEARCH] Iberians

    Introduction and Reforms I'd like to start by thanking HigoChumbo for much of the information presented below. He took time to collect the relevant information from various sources and send it to me. It was thorough and incredibly useful. Without the information, the thorough unit rosters I have planned wouldn't be possible.

    Map of the Iberian Pensinsula with clear tribal areas:
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    The best way to depict the Iberians, in my view, would be through an AOR system with tribes depicted as distinct units. There are several reasons for this. For one thing, that is how the Iberians ordered themselves in battle per Polybius and Livy (by nation). Secondly, it reflects the diversity of the tribes themselves as well as the political environment. There were distinctions in terms of equipment on a regional/tribal basis with the Iberians in the South and Southeast fighting differently than the Celtiberians and mountainous Norther tribes. For the Iberian factions proper, I see two major shifts that occurred or could have occurred:
    • In the first phase, you have Iberians themselves fighting mostly with the Caetrata shield and native equipment in the South. In the North and center of the peninsula you have more Celtiberian exposure.
    • The Barcid period sees the introduction in southern Iberia of larger shields (in particular, the Iberian scutum and aspis sized shields for cavalry) and perhaps metal helmets.
    • Correspondingly in the Northeast (the coastline region) as well as in the Southwest (the Lusitani) you have the adoption of various elements of Celtic arms. This varried depending on which region you are looking at.
    • In a third and final phase for the Iberians 'proper' in the South, I'd like to introduce heavier troop types with mail armor, perhaps greaves and better helmets. This is more guesswork and based on what would have happened if those groups had been left to their own devices and not conquered by the Carthaginians and Romans.

    One of the primary concerns with Iberian troops is their role as mercenaries. I will be advocating a slightly different approach for the Carthaginian Iberian infantry units. The Carthaginian auxilla, in my view, can be grouped into two phases:
    • First Punic War
    • Barcid conquests and Second Punic War

    Archaeological and pictoral evidence indicates that a change occurred between the two wars as the ovular Iberian scutum was adopted in the Southeast right around the time of the Barcid conquest. How this happened is not clear, but it would make sense that exposure to invading Carthaginian forces as well as to Celtiberians would have led to its adoption by the Iberian tribes. It would also make sense as a deliberate Carthaginian policy after the failure of its infantry forces during the First Punic War. A future conflict with Rome would have made the need for heavier infantry troops (the bulk of which would have necessarily had to have come from Iberia) apparent, and the Celtic and Romans already laid out a pretty good blueprint to follow in that regard.

    I would suggest first giving the Carthaginians Iberian the early Iberian AOR forces and access to mercenaries. In the second phase, the later part of the conquest and Second Punic War, I would organize the infantry into geographical AOR units and mercenaries that would fight with more standardized equipment. The Iberians described by Polybius and Livy at Cannae are fairly uniform in terms of equipment as well as dress. It seems plausible to me that the Carthaginians would have armed and clothed their Iberian levies (particularly in Italy). We also know that helmets, particularly the Montefortino varieties, tend to be found in areas with close Carthaginian impact. The reasons for this are debatable, but you can see the evidence in the following picture:
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    You can see that, when in a proper Iberian context (as in, not Celtic), the finds of Montefortino helmets are concentrated near areas of the greatest Carthaginian influence. It is also in these regions that we see depictions of what appear to be linothorax type armors, and it corresponds to the introduction of larger shield types for cavalry as well as infantry. The following tribes are the ones I would recommend depicting:
    0. Gades
    -(Bastuli, inhabitants)
    0. Nova Carthago
    -Oretani (Inhabitants 264)
    -Contestani (Inhabitants in 264)
    1. Turdetani (Celtiberian mercenaries, most civilized) DONE
    --Bastetani (Subjugated, per Strabo) DONE
    2. Edetani
    3. Carpetani
    -Vettones (Allies)
    --(Olcades)
    4. Celtici
    5. Lusitani DONE
    6. Galleaci
    7. Cantabri DONE
    -Astures (Neighbors and later allies of Cantabri against Romans) DONE
    8. Arevaci DONE
    -Vaccaei (Allies)
    --(Lusones, Belli, and Titii - Confederates of Arevaci)
    9. Cessetani
    -Illergetae (Neighbors)
    -Illercavones (Neighbors, clients of Illergetae)
    -Vascones (Neighbors/Inhabitants)
    -Emporion (Greek colonies - trade partner)
    *Bolded=Region/Faction
    *One - means there is a faction in game to actually depict this group (HaTG), the double -- means there is not a faction.
    Turdetani
    Areas of Recruitment:
    • Kartuba
    • Gades

    "The Turdetani are the most civilized of the Iberians : they know to write and possess books, and also poems and a code of laws that they consider older than seven thousand years ..." (Strabo, Geography, III, 1, 6)

    Strabo III.2.4 on the economy or wealth of the Turdetani:
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    Turdetania itself is marvellously blessed by nature; and while it produces all things, and likewise great quantities of them, these blessings are doubled by the facilities of exportation; for its surplus products are bartered off with ease because of the large number of the merchant vessels. This is made possible by the rivers, and by the estuaries as well, which, as I have said,24 resemble rivers, and, like rivers, are navigable inland from the sea, not only for small boats but also for large ones, to the cities of the interior. For the whole country beyond the seaboard that lies between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars is a plain for a considerable distance inland. And here, at a large number of places, are inlets which run up from the sea into the interior, resembling moderate-sized ravines or simply river-beds, and extending for many stadia; and these inlets are filled by the overflows of the sea at the flood-tides, so that one can sail inland thereon as readily as on the rivers — 143in fact, better, for it is like sailing down the rivers, not only because there is no opposing current, but because, on account of the flood-tide, the sea wafts you onwards just as the river-current does. And the overflows are greater on this coast than in the other regions, because the sea, coming from the great ocean, is compressed into the narrow strait which Maurusia forms with Iberia, there meets resistance, and then easily rushes to those parts of the land that yield to it. Now, while a number of the inlets of this kind are emptied at the ebb-tides (though some of them do not become wholly dry), yet a number of them enclose islands p29within themselves. Such, then, are the estuaries between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars, for they have an excessive rise of tide as compared with those in the other regions. A rise of tide like this affords a certain advantage to be utilised by sailors, namely, the estuaries are made more numerous and larger, oftentimes being navigable even for a distance of eight25 stadia; so that, after a fashion, it renders the whole country navigable and convenient both for exporting and importing merchandise. And yet it also affords a certain annoyance; for, on account of the vehemence of the flood-tides, which press with superior force against the current of the rivers, navigation on the rivers is attended by no small danger to the vessels, alike in their descent and ascent. But in the case of the estuaries the ebb-tides too are harmful; for the ebb-tides too grow violent in proportion to the strength of the flood-tides, and on account of their swiftness have oftentimes even left the ship stranded on dry land. Again, the cattle which cross over to the islands that lie off the rivers or the estuaries have at times actually been engulfed; at other times they have merely been cut off, and in their struggle to get back to the land lacked the strength to do so, and perished. But the cows, they say, are by observation actually aware of what happens, wait for the retirement of the sea, and then make off for the mainland.
    ...
    There are exported from Turdetania large quantities of grain and wine, and also olive oil, not only in large quantities, but also of best quality. And further, wax, honey, and pitch are exported from there, and large quantities of kermes,27 and ruddle28 which is not inferior to the Sinopian earth. And they build up their ships there out of native timber; and they have salt quarries in their country, and not a few streams of salt water; and not unimportant, either, is the fish-salting industry that is carried on, not only from this county,º but also from the rest of the seaboard outside the Pillars; and the product is not inferior to that of the Pontus. Formerly much cloth came from Turdetania, but now, wool, rather of the raven-black sort.29 And it is surpassingly beautiful; at all events, the rams are bought for breeding purposes at a talent apiece. Surpassing, too, are the delicate fabrics which are woven by the people of Salacia.30 Turdetania also has a great abundance of cattle of all kinds, and of game.

    But as for Turdetania and the territory adjoining it, there is no worthy word of praise left to him who wishes to praise their excellence in this respect. Up to the present moment, in fact, neither gold, nor silver, nor yet copper, nor iron, has been found anywhere in the world, in a natural state, either in such quantity or of such good quality. And the gold is not only mined, but is also washed down; that is, the gold-bearing sand is carried down by the rivers and the torrents, although it is often found in p41the waterless districts also; but in these districts it cannot be seen...whereas in the flooded districts the gold-dust glitters. Besides, they flood the waterless districts by conducting water thither, and thus they make the gold-dust glitter; and they also get the gold out by digging pits, and by inventing other means for washing the sand; and the so-called "gold-washeries" are now more numerous than the gold mines

    They build the silver-smelting furnaces with high chimneys, so that the gas from the ore may be carried high into the air; for it is heavy and deadly. Some of the copper-mines are called gold-mines, and from this fact it is inferred that in former times gold was mined from them.

    Not very far from Castalo is also the mountain in which the Baetis is said to rise; it is called "Silver Mountain" on account of the silver-mines that are in it. According to Polybius, however, both this river and the Anas, though distant from each other as much as nine hundred stadia, rise in Celtiberia; for, as a result of their growth in power, the Celtiberians caused the whole neighbouring country to have the same name as their own.
    "But these Bastetani which I have just narrated, too, are under the dominion of Turdetania, and so the Bastetani over river Anas, and most of their neighbors." (Strabo, Geography III, 2, 11)

    Turdetanian Light Caetrati (Click for pictoral example):
    Bastetani Light Caetrati/Skirmishers:
    • Dirty white/brownish wool tunics, mixture.
    • Distinctive Turdetani leather/sinew neck 'helmets.' Some without head gear.
    • Caetra/ox-hide buckler shields.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Daggers and short straight swords

    Turdetanian Caetrati (Click for pictoral example):
    • White tunics. Some with red trims.
    • Distinctive Turdetani leather/sinew neck 'helmets' as well as leather (some bronze coated) helmets seen in this image..
    • Caetra/ox-hide buckler shields.
    • Some with linothoraxes. Pictoral evidence.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Some with simple iron short swords, roughly 25 inches long with a double-edged blade.
    • Some with falcattas.

    Turdetanian Scutarii (Reform unit after First Punic War):

    Turdetanian Caetrati Cavalry:

    Turdetanian Scutarii Cavalry:

    Bastetani
    Areas of Recruitment:
    • Gades
    • Kartuba
    • Nova Carthago

    The Bastetani were a Southeastern tribe (corresponds to region of Nova Carthago in game) which, according to Strabo, had been subjugated by the Turdetani. There area is home to many of the Falcatta finds. Outside their falcattas, they are rather typical of Iberians in general. They used lighter caetrati until the second half of the third century when they adopted ovular shields (based on depictions of Edetani, Cessetani, and Turdetani - I think it's safe to include them).

    The introduction of the ovular scutum-esque shields into Southern Ibera seems to correspond (based on arhaeological evidence and depictions) with the the Barcid subjugation of Spain.

    Bastetani Light Caetrati/Skirmishers:
    • Dirty white/brownish wool tunics, mixture.
    • Some with leather type helmets as seen in this link, some without helmets.
    • Caetra/ox-hide buckler shields.
    • 1 Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Daggers and short straight swords

    Strabo III, Bastetani women dressing in black, Turdetani exported black wools:
    But in Bastetania women too dance promiscuously with men, taking hold of their hands. All the men dress in black, for the most part in coarse cloaks, in which they sleep, on their beds of litter. And they use waxen vessels, just as the Celts do. The women wear dresses and embroidered garments. Instead of money, those who dwell far in the interior exchange merchandise, or give pieces of silver cut off from plates of that metal. Those condemned to death are executed by stoning; parricides are put to death without the frontiers or the cities. They marry according to the customs of the Greeks.

    Bastetani Caetrati:

    Bastetani Scutarii (Reform prior to Second Punic War timeframe):

    Good example of what the cavalry units should look like:
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    Caetrati Cavalry:

    Scutari Cavalry:

    Lusitanians
    Areas of Recruitment:
    • Olisipo

    The Lusitanians, per Strabo and Pliny (35-47 tribes), consisted of dozens of tribes in the region near the Tagus river that combined into a loose confederacy that united at times of war or emergencies (such as during the Carthaginian and Roman incursions). The sources emphasize that they were typically lightly armed, but fierce and happy to lay ambushes. The stereotype most people have of Iberian warfare largely comes from these people. We have relatively detailed decriptions of their equipment from several sources.

    Strabo tells us that when they wore their hair long, but went "into battle they bind their hair about the forehead." Click this link to see an example of the bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.

    Diodorus tells us they were the most valiant of the Iberians, that they carried tough small circular shields (Caetra's), that they used the typical Iberian javelins, and that they had adopted certain equipment from the Celtiberians (helmets and swords). We also get a glimpse of their martial culture as he documents that they held combat competitions between their troops in full gear.
    Diodorus 5.34:
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    The most valiant among the Iberians are those who are known as Lusitanians, who carry in war very small shields which are interwoven with cords of sinew and are able to protect the body unusually well, because they are so tough; and shifting this shield easily as they do in their fighting, now here, now there, they cleverly ward off from their person every blow which comes at them. 5 They also use barbed javelins made entirely of iron, and wear helmets and swords very much like those of the Celtiberians. They hurl the javelin with good effect, even over a long distance, and, in fine, are doughty in dealing their blows. Since they are nimble and wear light arms, they are swift both in flight and in pursuit, but when it comes to enduring the hardships of a stiff fight they are far inferior to the Celtiberians.
    ...
    And a peculiar practice obtains among the Iberians and particularly among the Lusitanians; for when their young men come to the bloom of their physical strength, those who are the very poorest among them in worldly goods and yet excel in vigour of body and daring equip themselves with no more than valour and arms and gather in the mountain fastnesses, where they form into bands of considerable size and then descend upon Iberia and collect wealth from their pillaging. And this brigandage they continually practise in a spirit of complete disdain; for using as they do light arms and being altogether nimble and swift, they are a most difficult people for other men to subdue. 7 And, speaking generally, they consider the fastnesses and crags of the mountains to be their native land and to these places, which large and heavily equipped armies find hard to traverse, they flee for refuge. Consequently, although the Romans in their frequent campaigns against the Lusitanians rid them of their great spirit of disdain, they were nevertheless unable, often as they eagerly set about it, to put a complete end to their plundering
    Strabo elaborates further. They liked to lay ambushes, mentions the same Caetra's and "butcher's" knives. They had linen cuirsses (linothoraxes) and some used chain mail (more Celtiberian influence. He also mentions the javelins, and that some used spears with bronze heads.
    Strabo Book 3.3.6
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    At any rate, the Lusitanians, it is said, are given to laying ambush, given to spying out, are quick, nimble, and good at deploying troops. They have a small shield two feet in diameter, concave p73in front, and suspended from the shoulder by means of thongs (for it has neither arm-rings nor handles). Besides these shields they have a dirk or a butcher's-knife. Most of them wear linen cuirasses; a few wear chain-wrought cuirasses and helmets with three crests, but the rest wear helmets made of sinews. The foot-soldiers wear greaves also, and each soldier has several javelins; and some also make use of spears, and the spears have bronze heads. Now some of the peoples that dwell next to the Durius River live, it is said, after the manner of the Laconians — using anointing-rooms twice a day and taking baths in vapours that rise from heated stones, bathing in cold water, and eating only one meal a day;76 and that in a cleanly77 and simple way. The Lusitanians are given to offering sacrifices, and they inspect the vitals, without cutting them out.

    All the mountaineers lead a simple life, are water-drinkers, sleep on the ground, and let their hair stream down in thick masses after the manner of women, though before going into battle they bind their hair about the forehead. 155 They eat goat's-meat mostly, and to Ares they sacrifice a he-goat and also p75the prisoners and horses; and they also offer hecatombs of each kind, after the Greek fashion

    They also hold contests, for light-armed and heavy-armed soldiers and cavalry, in boxing, in running, in skirmishing, and in fighting by squads. And the mountaineers, for two-thirds of the year, eat acorns, which they have first dried and crushed, and then ground up and made into a bread that may be stored away for a long time. They also drink beer; but they are scarce of wine, and what wine they have made they speedily drink up in merry feastings with their kinsfolk; and instead of olive-oil they use butter.
    Appian also tells us that the Romans had a rough time dealing with Lusitanian cavalry. They seem to have employed hit and run tactics and operated in small groups so that the more heavily armored Romans were unable to catch them. Yet, he also describes segments of their forces with armor - most likely the Celtiberian chain mail. They were described as fast and with high stamina as well as typically accompanied with light infantry. It also seems that in some situations they had a habit of dismounting to fight.

    Lusitanian Slingers:

    Lusitanian Light/Levy Caetrati Spearmen:
    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Mixture of tunics. 'Sleeveless' style seen in the image above and same color. Earthy brown colors. In my view, this unit is the poorer elements of the society, so relatively plain and mixed tunics. Dirty, but also useful as camouflage (at least for ancient armies). Basically, what these two cavalrymen are wearing here.
    • Caetra shields.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Bronzed tipped spear, and if possible, daggers.

    Lusitanian Caetrati Spearmen:
    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Similar tunic colors as above, but with some designs. Design example 1.
    • Caetra shields.
    • Greaves on both legs.
    • Some with brownish or earthy colored linothoraxes. Circular pectoral plates.
    • Some helmets with three crests like this cavalrymen wears, but the rest wear helmets made of sinews and cloth such as used above.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Bronzed tipped spear, and if possible, daggers.

    Caetrati Swordsmen:
    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Similar tunic colors as above, but with some designs. Design example 1.
    • Caetra shields.
    • Greaves on both legs.
    • Some with brownish or earthy colored linothoraxes. Circular pectoral plates.
    • Some helmets with three crests like this cavalrymen wears, but the rest wear helmets made of sinews and cloth such as used above.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Double sided/bladed sword, Celtiberian in make/quality. 25-29 inches in length.

    Elite Caetrati/Nobles Swordsmen:
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    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Similar tunic colors as above, but with some designs. Design example 1. Design example 2.
    • As seen above, fur cloaks.
    • Caetra shields.
    • Greaves on both legs.
    • Some helmets with three crests like this cavalrymen wears. Dark colored plumes.
    • Hamata mail armor and linothoraxes.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Double sided/bladed sword, Celtiberian in make/quality. 25-29 inches in length.

    Light Caetrati Cavalry:
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    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Tunics as in the example picture. More earthy colors.
    • Unarmored.
    • Caetra shields.
    • Helmets as seen in the above image.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Double sided/bladed sword, Celtiberian in make/quality. 25-29 inches in length.

    Caetrati Medium Cavalry:
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    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Tunic style in the example picture in the spoiler tags. Some sleeveless or cut at shoulders.
    • As seen above, fur cloaks for some of the soldiers.
    • Earthy colored Linothoraxes and pectorals (some with both).
    • Caetra shields.
    • Helmets as seen in the above image.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Double sided/bladed sword, Celtiberian in make/quality. 25-29 inches in length.

    Noble Caetrati Cavalry:
    • Bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.
    • Tunic style in the example picture in the spoiler tags. Some sleeveless or cut at shoulders. Some with the colored red/white tunics worn by the Elite/Noble swordsmen.
    • Fur cloaks.
    • Earthy colored Linothoraxes and hamata armor (some with both).
    • Caetra shields.
    • Helmets as seen in the above image.
    • Spears.
    • Double sided/bladed sword, Celtiberian in make/quality. 25-29 inches in length. Very rare falcattas or kopis swords.

    Last edited by ABH2; April 22, 2016 at 08:18 PM.


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    Default Re: [RESEARCH] Iberian Armies

    Celtiberans:
    Arevaci
    Areas of Recruitment:
    • Numantia
    • Toletum (Minus Numantians)

    The Arevaci were a Celtiberian people who inhabited North-central Spain and who constituted the most powerful tribe in the Celtiberian Confederacy whose members consisted of Lusones, Belli, and Titii. In terms of combat forces, the evidence we have indicates a mixture of Celtic and Iberian influences. The ancient authors heaped praise on them for their martial ability as well as their fierce independence. Their resistance at Numantia during the Celtiberian War is the stuff of legend as 4 to 8 thousand held off the Roman legions. It led to the downfall of several Consuls until the Romans appointed Scipio Aemilianus Africanus (later would take the surname Numantinus after his successful siege) to finish the job that others could not.

    We have relatively decent descriptions and depictions of their arms and equipment. The poet Lucilius describes them as wearing braccae (breeches), neck rings, and sagas (cloaks, which are mentioned by several other writers). This description is backed up by the visual evidence that we have. The sagas are the most commonly referenced pieces of clothing. Diodorus describes these garments along with aspis sized shields to go along with more Celtic types.
    Diodorus 5.33, on the Celtiberians - Black wool cloaks, shields, equipment
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    Now that we have spoken at sufficient length about the Celts we shall turn our history to the Celtiberians who are their neighbours. In ancient times these two peoples, namely, the Iberians and the Celts, kept warring among themselves over the land, but when later they arranged their differences and settled upon the land altogether, and when they went further and agreed to intermarriage with each other, because of such intermixture the two peoples received the appellation given above. And since it was two powerful nations that united and the land of theirs was fertile, it came to pass that the Celtiberians advanced far in fame and were subdued by the Romans with difficulty and only after they had faced them in battle over a long period. 2 And this people, it would appear, provide for warfare not only excellent cavalry but also foot-soldiers who excel in prowess and endurance. They wear rough black cloaks, the wool of which resembles the hair of goats. 3 As for their arms, certain of the Celtiberians, carry light shields like those of the Gauls, and certain carry circular wicker shields as large as an aspis,39 and about their shins and calves they wind greaves made of hair and on their heads they wear bronze helmets adorned with purple crests. The swords they wear are two-edged and wrought of excellent iron, and they also have dirks a span in length which they use p187in fighting at close quarters. 4 And a peculiar practice is followed by them in the fashioning of their defensive40 weapons; for they bury plates of iron in the ground and leave them there until in the course of time the rust has eaten out what is weak in the iron and what is left is only the most unyielding, and of this they then fashion excellent swords and such other objects as pertain to war.41 The weapon which has been fashioned in the manner described cuts through anything which gets in its way, for no shield or helmet or bone can withstand a blow from it, because of the exceptional quality of the iron. 5 Able as they are to fight in two styles, they first carry on the contest on horseback, and when they have defeated the cavalry they dismount, and assuming the rôle of foot-soldiers they put up marvellous battles. And a peculiar and strange custom obtains among them: Careful and cleanly as they are in their ways of living, they nevertheless observe one practice which is low and partakes of great uncleanness; for they consistently use urine to bathe the body and wash their teeth with it, thinking that in this practice is constituted the care and healing of the body.42
    The Celtiberians were sought after soldiers for both the Carthaginians and Romans. While they would increasingly be used as light infantry and cavalry by the Romans, they were at times levied as units of scutati. They were typically more heavily armed than Iberian tribes in the South, and their encounters with the Romans left a significant influence. It is probably that the design of the gladius was copied from Celtiberian sword designs.

    Before we get started, two useful images that show the progression of Celtiberian arms and weapons over time:
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    Celtiberian Slingers

    Celtiberian Light Warriors
    • Some shirtless, some with plain tunics (browns, whites) with and without sleeves.
    • Some with neck rings.
    • Braccae/breeches and leather boots.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Long hair. Clean shaven and some with neat beards.
    • Caetra oxhide shields - smaller than the Iberian versions.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Spears/Daggers

    Celtiberian Medium Warriors (Spears)
    • Some plain tunics, some with designs as seen in this example picture.
    • Some with neck rings.
    • Braccae/breeches and leather boots.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Long hair. Clean shaven and some with neat beards.
    • Some with Iberian style leather helmets. Others with bronze Celtic style helmets. Some with crimson crests/plumes. Example 1. It's a fan drawing of some kind, but bronze connical style Iberian helmets with plumes such as seen in this shot.
    • Caetra oxhide shields - smaller than the Iberian versions. Some with circular whicker shields covered in oxhide the size of an aspis.
    • Iberian style circular breastplates. Another Celtic style pectoral plate seen in this image.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Spears

    Celtiberian Medium Warriors (Swords)

    Celtiberian Noblemen (Early/Spears)

    Thureos/Gladius Reforms:
    • Duplicate medium warriors both sword and spear version.
    • Change out caetra shields for Iberian thureos.
    • Replace La Tene I swords with gladius hispaniensis type swords.

    Celtiberian Noblemen (Later/Swords)
    • Fancy tunics, mixture of colors. Some red, yellow with white horizontal stripes.Example design 1. Example 2
    • Braccae/breeches and leather boots.
    • Sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Long hair. Clean shaven and some with neat beards.
    • Bronze Celtic style helmets with crimson crests/plumes. Example 1. It's a fan drawing of some kind, but bronze connical style Iberian helmets with plumes such as seen in this shot. Some with Montefortino type helmets. New models required, but two other helmet designs that would be nice to see-Celtiberian helmet 1, Celtiberian helmet 2[/url].
    • Some with aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss. Celtic style oval shields more common.
    • Breast plates with leather/linothorax type armors underneath such as seen here.. Some with Hamata/mail armor.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Gladius Hispaniensis type double sided swords.

    Numantian Warriors:
    • Miri82's tunics.
    • Some with neck rings.
    • Braccae/breeches and leather boots.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Long hair. Clean shaven and some with neat beards.
    • Various Celtiberian helmets.
    • Some with hamata/mail armor, some with triple-disk plates/circular breast plates with linothoraxes underneath.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • La tene type I swords.

    Numantian Warriors Reforms:
    • Gladius hispaniensis type swords
    • Thureos/aspis sized shields.
    • More hamata/mail armors.
    • Some with montefortino, cheekless helmts.

    Light Cavalry:
    • Fancy tunics, mixture of colors. Some red, yellow with white horizontal stripes.Example design 1.
    • Some with neck rings.
    • Braccae/breeches and leather boots.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Long hair. Clean shaven and some with neat beards.
    • Some with helmets and some without. Some with hair tied back.
    • Caetra oxhide shields - smaller than the Iberian versions.
    • Soliferreum/heavy javelin-6ft of iron, up to 30 meters. Iberians called it a Saunion. Heavy. Narrow tip for penetration of armor. Hooks made it hard to extract from shields.
    • Falaricae/lighter javelins-heavy javelin with a long, thin iron head of about 90 centimeters in length attached to a wooden shaft of about equal length. The iron head had a narrow sharp tip, which made the falarica an excellent armour-piercing weapon. The Iberians used to bind combustible material to the metal shaft of the weapon and use the falarica as an incendiary projectile. The incendiary javelin would hit the shields or siege works of the enemy often setting them ablaze.
    • Spears/Daggers

    Noble Cavalry:

    Noble Cavalry Reforms:
    • Some with aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss. Celtic style oval shields more common.
    • Some with montefortino helmets without the cheek plates.

    Cantabri and Astures
    The Cantabri and their Asturian allies were Celtiberian tribes in the north of Iberia, and among the most difficult tribes for the Romans to conquer. They organized themselves into a tribal confederation, but were known for their fierce independence and fighting ability as they raided the lowlands to the south of their mountainous homeland. Despite their relative obscurity, the Romans remembered their wars against these people well and would later adopt some of their fighting tactics as their own (the Cantabrian Circle). The final conquest required over eight full legions and took a decade of intense fighting.

    The Cantabri and their Asturian allies relied on hit and run tactics and, along with the Lusitani, helped create the myth of the Iberian guerilla in ancient combat. They were lighter equipped than their Celtic relatives to the south, but there was still some general crossover. Most of all, these two people were famed for their stocky, hardy, and well-bred horses suited to rough terrain and skirmishing. These brown and black horses were only slightly larger than ponies.

    Cantabrian Skirmishers
    • Dirty wool tunics. White and browns. Some with sleeves and some without.
    • Long hair and beards. Some with their hair bound on their foreheads.
    • Iberian Javelins/daggers

    Cantabrian Shock Infantry
    • Dirty wool tunics. White and browns. Some with sleeves and some without. Some with patterns.
    • Long hair and beards. Some with their hair bound on their foreheads.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Some with torcs/neck-rings.
    • Iberian Javelins
    • Mixture of Caetra shields and some with aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss.
    • Some with leather armor/brown linothorax types.
    • Bipennis/double-sided war axe.
    • Falcata/kopis type swords.
    • La tene I/small straight double sided swords.

    Cantabrian Warband
    • Dirty wool tunics. White and browns. Some with sleeves and some without. Some with patterns.
    • Long hair and beards. Some with their hair bound on their foreheads.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Some with torcs/neck-rings.
    • Mixture of Caetra shields and some with aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss.
    • Some with leather armor brown linothorax types.
    • Iberian Javelins
    • Short spears.

    Example image of Cantabrian elites, modern day depiction:
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    Cantabrian Elites
    • Brownish red tunics. Some with sleeves and some without. Patterned.
    • Long hair and beards with their hair bound on their foreheads. Neat beards.
    • Sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Animal skin boots as seen in the example image.
    • Torcs/neck-rings.
    • Aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss.
    • Linothorax type leather armors.
    • Iberian Javelins
    • Falcata/kopis type swords and La tene I/small straight double sided swords.

    Cantabrian Cavalry
    • Brownish red tunics. Some with sleeves and some without. Patterned.
    • Long hair and beards with their hair bound on their foreheads. Neat beards.
    • Some with torcs/neck-rings.
    • Animal skin boots as seen in the example image.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Caetra shields
    • Javelins
    • Falcata/kopis type swords and La tene I/small straight double sided swords.

    Cantabrian Elite Cavalry
    • Brownish red tunics. Some with sleeves and some without. Patterned.
    • Long hair and beards with their hair bound on their foreheads. Neat beards.
    • Some with torcs/neck-rings.
    • Animal skin boots as seen in the example image.
    • Some with sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Aspis sized whicker shields covered in ox-hide with iron central boss.
    • Linothorax type leather armors.
    • Javelins/short spears


    Thureos/Gladius Reforms:
    • Change out caetra shields for Iberian thureos. Mix in Iberian thureos to elite cavalry and infantry.
    • Replace La Tene I swords with gladius hispaniensis type swords.


    Asturian Mountaineers

    Asturian Cavalry
    • Mixture of tunics used for Cantabrians including elites.
    • Long hair and beards. Some with their hair bound on their foreheads.
    • Sagas/black wool cloaks. Example 1.. Example 2.
    • Torcs/neck-rings.
    • Animal skin boots as seen in the example image for some.
    • Iberian Javelins
    • Bipennis/double-sided war axe.
    • Falcata/kopis type swords and dagger mixture.

    Last edited by ABH2; November 20, 2014 at 09:50 PM.


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    Default Re: [RESEARCH] Iberian Armies

    Reserved Iberian auxilla.


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    Default Re: [RESEARCH] Iberian Armies

    I'm excited to get some more researched and eventually put into game, the Spanish/ Iberian tribes are by far my second favourite faction. I'll see what I can dig up.

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    Default Re: [RESEARCH] Iberian Armies

    I'm always interested in hearing your thoughts. The Lusitanians are now up as the first major/playable faction covered of the three groupings so far. As such, a bit more detailed and diversity in their units. I want them to be made for ambushes and hiding on the battlefield.

    Unit names are just descriptive at the moment. We won't be using those. Here's a list of the Lusitanians:
    Lusitanian Slingers
    Lusitanian Spearmen/Leves (Caetrati)
    Lusitanian Caetrati Spearmen
    Lusitanian Caetrati Swordsmen
    Lusitanian Elite Caetrati/Nobles Swordsmen
    Lusitanian Light Cavalry
    Lusitianian Caetrati Cavalry
    Lusitanian Noble Cavalry


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    Default Re: [RESEARCH] Iberian Armies

    Don't have time to read it in detail now, I'll definatelly give it a thorough read later.

    Just a quick note: It might be intentional, but the cavalrymen pics in the Lusitanians part are not Lusitanian, but iberian (the one in italian says Turdetanian Iberian cavalryman). You can tell by a few details: usage of falcatas, the "decorations" used in the horses, helmets, etc).

    I believe the infantrymen in the first cavalry image are celtiberians (I seem to recall they were the ones who used the coarse black coats).



    Anyways, looking real good, looking forward to jumping back into it later =)

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    I've used a few pictures as examples of particular armors or aspects of a unit. The cavalry men you are referring to, though, is close to how I want one of the Lusitanian cavalrymen to look. No falcattas. For the Lusitanians, I've gone with earthy colors. Seems practical to me given their skillsets and the written descriptions we have.


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    Arevaci have been added to post #2. I feel mostly comfortable with it. Some guesswork in there on a few details. So, rosters for the vanilla playable factions are now done.


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    Cantabrian and Asturian units added to post #2.


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    Will the research here be somehow represented on the map as text?
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