My opinion is with the Sarranid Sultanate. But the Khergit Khanate have great horse archers.
Whats you're opinion?
My opinion is with the Sarranid Sultanate. But the Khergit Khanate have great horse archers.
Whats you're opinion?
The game tries to make out that it's the Vaegir's archers but they're probably the worst. Their bows are powerful but their rate of fire is far too slow to be worth it. Plus they're too expensive to be used in any great numbers. I would definitely agree with the Sarranid archers. The Khergits horse archers are very tough and pretty accurate but I often fine that at most they just annoy the enemy then actually doing any real damage. Plus they seem to be too mobile for the AI, who just steer their horse straight into an enemy formation and get slaughtered. They are quite good but they always need lots of support to ensure victory. The Sarranids can win sieges by themselves.
That said, if we're including Rhodok Crossbowmen then there's no contest. They are by far the best missile unit in the game.
Rhodoks are awesome in every way just boring slow battles. With am all rhodok army I could just sit back and command if I want to and mop up armies ten times my size if I've got a hill to hide on.
Functionally wise they are all missile units. And Rhodocs are the best. Ideal balanced army have 1/3 Rhodoc crossbowmen, 1/3 Nord infantry and 1/3 Swadian knights.
Then you can win most field battles and take castles and towns easy.
Yes but there are major difference between crossbow and bow in the game, hence they are still very different. The OP asks archer, not men who use crossbow.
Furthermore I would argue Rhodok crossbowmen are good not because their range ability, but rather its flexibility to use as melee infantry; range attack wise, Rhodok crossbowmen do not do significantly better than Swadian crossbowmen.
Do people actually rely on foot archers for anything? It's unlikely they can kill anyone unless we're talking about elves in LOTR mod.
HAs are far more useful, to serve as un-catchable bait. Doesn't matter whether they can hit or not.
Oh, that must be why I resorted to cheat in the first place.
Do people actually rely on foot archers for anything? It's unlikely they can kill anyone unless we're talking about elves in LOTR mod.
Wut? What kind of foot archers are you using? Peasants with stones?
Its all about how you use them laddie.
Last edited by Påsan; November 06, 2014 at 04:53 PM.
I haven't played "seriously" in a few years, but I'll have to go with Rhodok sharpshooters: the IA doesn't use them very well, but if you happen to find them entrenched in fortresses you are going to have a bad time, even in vanilla you can take some significant field casualties if you happen to run into a Rhodokian leader that has massed elite units. In large multiplayer events (plus 50 per side) with organized and pre setted sides, not those team-deathmatch kill-fests, Rhodokian teams that follow simple commands, mass sharpshooters and avoid basic flanking manoeuvres can rush well positioned archers by simply walking with their shields up and, at the same time, fending off infantry. I've even seen all-foot rhodoks hold their ground while surrounded by Horse archers, these are some resilient troops, unlike vaegir combos or nordic shield-walls Rhodoks can get really tricky.
Last edited by Claudius Gothicus; November 07, 2014 at 02:33 PM.
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As archery, Khergits have no equal IMHO. Their archers have really good accuracy. Winnin battles with full of Khergit Veteran Horse Archer army is really easy and fun and fighting against them -if you play at hardest difficulty- is almost impossible. Either an elite or even random horse archer manage to kill you, maybe even in one shot. And your army lose since they can't do anything without you.
But if we add Rhodok crossbows, those guys are insane if you make them fight in line. None get close to them.
I tend to use Vaegir Marksman, a solid block of those tend to rip apart any Inf Based Armys, have some problem against mass cav charges though.