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    Icon3 Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    What do you think of when you hear the term Medieval Period? Widespread adoption of the crossbow? Diseases brought by trade ravaging Europe? Intense religious conflict?

    Sound familiar? All three of these are in Attila, albeit in a simpler form, not only that but the game is set during the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, which was one of the major events that kick-started the Middle Ages in Europe and set in motion the next thousand years of European history!

    In other words, this could be a prequel to Total War: Medieval 3, Attila is set during the time frame almost immediately proceeding the game, Attila could be seen as a test for some of Medieval 3's core mechanics, such as religion and disease, as well as minor features like crossbows (IIRC they've never been done before in Warscape engine), heavily fortified minor settlements (IE the beginning of medieval castles), and the total devastation of cities and provinces.

    Sorry if this sounds like a crazy rant.

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    Yeah, just like people use to say that Fall of the Samurai is the prequel to World War 1.
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    Quote Originally Posted by ^OvO^ View Post
    Yeah, just like people use to say that Fall of the Samurai is the prequel to World War 1.
    The difference is that we never had and never will get a WW1 Total War game, meanwhile Medieval 3 is highly requested and another game set during that era is long overdue.

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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    I don't think we will see a M3 in the next several years but I do think Attila is a very good prequel to a TW: Dark Ages/Charlemagne game. Somewhere around 800 to 900. That I would get excited about.

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    I doubt this is a lead up to Medieval 3 or the like and I'm not sure I'm that interested in Medieval 3, at least not if it's 1066-1453 Medieval 3. What I would like to see though is as an Early Medieval game, a Charlemagne: Total War running from 768-1066. There'd be Vikings, the Eastern Roman Empire, Umayyads and Abbasids, the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire, Magyar invasions all capped off with lots of Pagans, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians and heresies galore all thrashing the hell out of each other.


    Specifically for the future of Attila I'd like to see a Saxon Invasion mini campaign set in the ashes of Roman Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hovis View Post
    I doubt this is a lead up to Medieval 3 or the like and I'm not sure I'm that interested in Medieval 3, at least not if it's 1066-1453 Medieval 3. What I would like to see though is as an Early Medieval game, a Charlemagne: Total War running from 768-1066. There'd be Vikings, the Eastern Roman Empire, Umayyads and Abbasids, the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire, Magyar invasions all capped off with lots of Pagans, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians and heresies galore all thrashing the hell out of each other.


    Specifically for the future of Attila I'd like to see a Saxon Invasion mini campaign set in the ashes of Roman Britain.
    An early Middle Ages Total War game would definitely be interesting, it's a very rarely explored area in games, there's a lot they could do with it, plus as you said there's vikings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^OvO^ View Post
    Yeah, just like people use to say that Fall of the Samurai is the prequel to World War 1.
    HAHA this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hovis View Post
    I doubt this is a lead up to Medieval 3 or the like and I'm not sure I'm that interested in Medieval 3, at least not if it's 1066-1453 Medieval 3. What I would like to see though is as an Early Medieval game, a Charlemagne: Total War running from 768-1066. There'd be Vikings, the Eastern Roman Empire, Umayyads and Abbasids, the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire, Magyar invasions all capped off with lots of Pagans, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians and heresies galore all thrashing the hell out of each other.


    Specifically for the future of Attila I'd like to see a Saxon Invasion mini campaign set in the ashes of Roman Britain.
    this sound too good to be true
    this is my no. 1 wish for next Total War.

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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    Attila is a follow-up to Rome 2, not a prequel for Medieval 3... same thing Barbarian Invasion was intended as.
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    Too much melee..

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    This might be the last Total War as well.

    So many possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by System32.exe View Post
    In other words, this could be a prequel to Total War: Medieval 3
    This is exactly what I was thinking about It came to my mind a few days ago and I was wondering if I am the only one, or if somebody else was thinking about it too. And now I can see that yes
    But maybe it just come to mind to people who wish M3 to be next TW game very very much (like me)

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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    They spoke about Alexanders empire briefly in one of the talks saying how it was matched by Attila, so perhaps that could be the next direction that CA goes to.

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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    Well Attila is the indication that the next Total War game will be about China.
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    I'm surprised there is no Half-Life 3 reference in this thread yet.


    Anyways, I -really, really- do hope it's not Medieval 3. Too similar, too soon. So many people complaining about the lack of innovation in TW and you guys are asking them to make yet another copy-paste with better graphics.

    Also, aren't 2 sequels in a row enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    I'm surprised there is no Half-Life 3 reference in this thread yet.


    Anyways, I -really, really- do hope it's not Medieval 3. Too similar, too soon. So many people complaining about the lack of innovation in TW and you guys are asking them to make yet another copy-paste with better graphics.

    Also, aren't 2 sequels in a row enough?
    Exactly . Next TW should be smt with gunpowder ,lika a Victorian Age .
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    I would guess we have Romans, a sequel in Barbarians, and then a prequel in Greeks. So Augustus, Attila, and Alexander.

    Victorian Era should be doable, the only problem is managing a global conflict. Given the way Total War works you need a world map more deep than Risk and probably less deep than Europa Universalis.
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    A few thoughts

    • The "Dark Ages" IS the Medieval Period, though the early period.
    • I do not think Attila is anything but a corollary to Rome II
    • Also, Medieval II was the last game before the introduce naval warfare, so it would make sense to update it to be consistent with the other titles.
    • Moreover, though clamoring for a "Dark Age" style game, I see no reason why a Medieval III cannot have DLC similar to Attila being created.
    • I do no think Empire II is in the works, because I think they still have more development before they can release an update on that particular game. (It was incredibly ambitious when they first came out with it).
    • WWI is not conducive to the style of the game. My hat goes off to the guys that made a mod on the era however.
    • The Victorian age would be interesting, but the same issues that exist in Empire would exist in that game as well. If they can't make a viable Empire II, I doubt they will attempt something similar in a different time frame.
    • Lastly, I made a thread about my own thoughts on what should be the next game: [Next Game?] Peloponesian War: Total War (please comment in my thread; I do not wish to hijack this thread).

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    to be honest anything without guns on the warscape engine for me and in my opinion is a big mess, i just dont feel warscape does melee well at all and a med3 on that engine will be a fail for me.
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    Default Re: Total War: Attila might be the prequel to Medieval 3

    Instead of calling out for whatever next TW title people should call out for a next TW engine, Shogun 2 was the best we will ever get from the warscape engine mabey Atilla will come close to this but only a new (more moddable if possible) engine can make the next TW title better and more intresting.

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