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    Nice list. I have read many of these but i can improve it with the following:

    Feeding the Roman Army: The Archeology of Production and Supply in NW Europe, Ed. by Sue Stallibrass & Richard Thomas, Oxbow Books

    Greece and Rome at War, Peter Connolly (Preface by Adrian Goldsworthy), Pen and Swords Books

    The Republican Roman Army: A Sourcebook, Michael M. Sage, Routledge


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    Alexander to Actium is a general overview of the Hellenistic era, not Macedon.

    Wonderful list. There's no resource that even comes close on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpus View Post
    Alexander to Actium is a general overview of the Hellenistic era, not Macedon.

    Wonderful list. There's no resource that even comes close on the internet.
    fixed, many thanks.

    Greece and Rome at War, Peter Connolly (Preface by Adrian Goldsworthy), Pen and Swords Books

    this is a new edition (i have an older version)! added all, thanks for these.

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    try this one by Champion. not sure how good or bad it is, but his work on Phyrrus was good (iirc)
    Slightly to early (Hieron II ruled from 270 to 215), but the last book of the series doesnīt look too bad. Thanks, Sarkiss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malibu.stacey View Post
    Slightly to early (Hieron II ruled from 270 to 215), but the last book of the series doesnīt look too bad. Thanks, Sarkiss!
    oops, you're right, its volume 2 that you'd need, sorry. let us know if its any good. cheers.

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    In the years since I first started the reading list, I haven't stopped reading. Here are a couple of good things that I've found.

    For Iberia and the Arevaci:

    Los Celtiberos, Alberto J Lorrio. Basically the bible for this area.
    e-Keltoi volume 6 (http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...ol6/index.html) 20 free pdf articles.
    Sertorius and the Struggle for Spain, Philip Matyszac
    Viriathus and the Lusitanian Resistance to Rome, Luis Silva - could have been better written or edited or translated but full of good stuff
    Armas de la Antigua Iberia de Tartesos a Numancia, Fernanda Quesada Sanz - He also has Armas de Grecia y Roma and contributes to Gladius, on online journal (http://gladius.revistas.csic.es/inde...iew/30/showToc)
    Colonial Encounters in Ancient Iberia: Phoenician, Greek and Indigenous Rekations, Dietler and Lopez-Ruiz - Expensive and hard to come by but worth it.

    For Pontus and the Black Sea Region:

    There's an excellent online resource from the Danish National Research Foundation's Centre for Black Sea Studies: (http://www.pontos.dk/publications/bo...-studies-vol-1). This has a number of excellent english language pdf journals.

    For Britain and Ireland:

    I had a huge amount of material that I went through for the Pritanoi faction and added a bibliography to the faction preview. At lot of it was extremely specialized JSTOR material that would be hard to come by without JSTOR access. For the books available to the public, I would suggest

    Iron Age Communities in Britain, Barry Cunliffe - the bible for this area. Absolutely indispensible.
    Pagan Celtic Ireland, Barry Raftery
    The Britons, Christopher Snyder
    The Iron Age in Northern Britain, D.W. Harding
    Coins and Power in Late Iron Age Britain, John Creighton
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    Great thread!

    I canīt wait to read The Syrian Wars by John D. Grainger (canīt wait fo Christmas ):
    http://www.brill.com/syrian-wars

    Also I want to read this one about Attalids, but I donīt have much money for it right now:
    http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199656110.do

    EDIT:

    @Anubis: Iīm interested in you review mate as I want also buy the new book by Grainger
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    Quote Originally Posted by oudysseos View Post
    In the years since I first started the reading list, I haven't stopped reading. Here are a couple of good things that I've found.
    Hi, oudysseos, great to see you're still around! many thanks for compiling the original bibliography, i would probably never dare to start one from scratch myself!
    will add the titles, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomySVK View Post
    Great thread!

    I canīt wait to read The Syrian Wars by John D. Grainger (canīt wait fo Christmas ):
    http://www.brill.com/syrian-wars

    Also I want to read this one about Attalids, but I donīt have much money for it right now:
    http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199656110.do

    EDIT:

    @Anubis: Iīm interested in you review mate as I want also buy the new book by Grainger
    thanks for these, Tomy. the Syrian Wars looks very intriquing indeed. adding them in.

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    You are welcome When I have more time during the weekend I will post more books I have in my library and related to EB II


    There is a little mistake in your description of Ancient Warfare: A Very Short Introduction by Harry Sidebottom - the Warrior of Rome serries are set in 260s AD, not in the 270s AD (but I hope the series will continue to 270s )


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    I have created a Europa Barbarorum Reading List Goodreads group: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show...m-reading-list

    I have added a bunch of books to it, but not yet everything from this thread. Currently it's a public reading group, so anyone is welcome to join, comment and so on.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
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    There is a little mistake in your description of Ancient Warfare: A Very Short Introduction by Harry Sidebottom - the Warrior of Rome serries are set in 260s AD, not in the 270s AD (but I hope the series will continue to 270s )
    fixed, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by oudysseos View Post
    I have created a Europa Barbarorum Reading List Goodreads group: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show...m-reading-list

    I have added a bunch of books to it, but not yet everything from this thread. Currently it's a public reading group, so anyone is welcome to join, comment and so on.
    sounds good, will have a look, cheers.

    EDIT: I took liberty of adding it to the Bibliography. let me know if you'd like it removed.
    Last edited by Sarkiss; October 23, 2014 at 12:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss View Post

    EDIT: I took liberty of adding it to the Bibliography. let me know if you'd like it removed.
    No, that's great. Goodreads is useful for finding similar books and comparing reviews etc.
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    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
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    You could add'The Greek State '(Routledge Library Editions: Political Science Volume 23) [Kindle Edition]
    Victor Ehrenberg https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Also 'Economy of the Sacred in Hellenistic and Roman Asia Minor' (Oxford Classical Monographs)http://<br /> http://www.amazon.co.u...etailpage_o09_
    'Antiochos III and the Cities of Western Asia Minor' John Ma http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...ilpage_o06_s00
    'Statues and Cities: Honorific Portraits and Civic Identity in the Hellenistic World (Oxford Studies in Ancient Culture & Representation)' John Ma http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...ilpage_o06_s01
    Mithridates VI and the Pontic Kingdom (Black Sea Studies)Jakob Munk Hojte
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/8...ilpage_o04_s00

    'The Hellenistic Far East: Archaeology, Language, and Identity in Greek Central AMairs
    Rachel Mairs
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Hellenis...mm_hrd_title_0

    All of the above I have purchased over last several months, all detailed academic works, well edited, well reseached with good bibliographies for further reading
    PS did you want a small synopsis for each?
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    The only thing on this list that I've read is Alexander to Actium. I thought it was absolutely fantastic, but I did notice that he seemed to make a lot of subjective arguments at times. Does anyone more knowledgable know how trustworthy it is as a source on the Hellinistic era?

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    Studies on the Hellenistic era will have to include subjective comments, it is the nature of the evidence. I cannot speak for that particular title, not having had the pleasure of reading it.
    But speaking for majority, you cannot simply take one historians word at face value, they were not there and even if they were they would still have personal opinions, and their own cultural baggage.
    The only way to get an understanding of a period is to follow up the sources, read further other historians/archaeologists opinions and try to gain an insight into all aspects of the period.
    Warfare seems to be a favourite topic to read, understandably, bearing in mind what forum this is. But to gain an understanding of Greek, Roman and Makedonian warfare is to understand their culture and society.
    Sorry to ramble, you only asked about one book, it is a general ramble aimed at fresh faces to the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basileos Antiokhos Euergetes View Post
    You could add'The Greek State '(Routledge Library Editions: Political Science Volume 23) [Kindle Edition]
    Victor Ehrenberg https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Also 'Economy of the Sacred in Hellenistic and Roman Asia Minor' (Oxford Classical Monographs)
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000RQU1UQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o09_

    'Antiochos III and the Cities of Western Asia Minor' John Ma http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...ilpage_o06_s00
    'Statues and Cities: Honorific Portraits and Civic Identity in the Hellenistic World (Oxford Studies in Ancient Culture & Representation)' John Ma http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0199668914?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01
    Mithridates VI and the Pontic Kingdom (Black Sea Studies)Jakob Munk Hojte
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/8...ilpage_o04_s00

    'The Hellenistic Far East: Archaeology, Language, and Identity in Greek Central AMairs
    Rachel Mairs
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Hellenis...mm_hrd_title_0

    All of the above I have purchased over last several months, all detailed academic works, well edited, well reseached with good bibliographies for further reading
    PS did you want a small synopsis for each?
    sure, if its not too much trouble.

    thanks for these, will add them to the list (apart from Mithridates VI and the Pontic Kingdom, which is already there).

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROFL Copter View Post
    The only thing on this list that I've read is Alexander to Actium. I thought it was absolutely fantastic, but I did notice that he seemed to make a lot of subjective arguments at times. Does anyone more knowledgable know how trustworthy it is as a source on the Hellinistic era?
    comment added, cheers.

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    Iīm sorry for the delay. Here is the list for other titles which should be in:

    Seleucids:
    Paul Kosmin: The Land of the Elephant Kings: Space, Territory and Ideology in the Seleucid Empire - In my opinion very important study.
    http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.p...=9780674728820

    Hasmoneans/Maccabees
    B. Bar-Kochva: Judas Maccabaues: The Jewish Struggle Against Seleucids - The best information about Maccabean army. It also includes excellent chapters/Appendices about Seleucid military, best used with authorīs book about Seleucid army.
    http://www.cambridge.org/sk/academic...cids?format=PB

    John D Grianger: The Wars of the Maccabees - Written mainly from the Seleucid point of view.
    http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/The-W...ardback/p/3234

    Macedonia
    F. W. Walbank: Philip V of Macedon - I liked this biography of Philip V.
    http://www.cambridge.org/sk/academic...1939?format=PB

    David Karunanithy: The Macedonian War Machine 359 - 281 BC - On the way, I didnīt read it yet, but the reviews are only positive.
    http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/The-M...ardback/p/3799

    Ptolemies:
    Ch. Fischer-Bovet: Army and Sociaty in Ptolemaic Egypt - looks very interesting, but expensive for me right now
    http://www.cambridge.org/sk/academic...gypt?format=HB


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomySVK View Post
    David Karunanithy: The Macedonian War Machine 359 - 281 BC - On the way, I didnīt read it yet, but the reviews are only positive.
    yes, the book by David Karunanithy looks good, got it on my wish list.
    thanks for these, tomySVK, excellent sources on successors. added.

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