Standard bearer

**han891** · September 21, 2014, 10:36 AM

Hi, I'm trying to bend an arm in milkshape for a standard bearer but I can only do it using the animations button. Once I unclick the animation button it goes back to its original location. How can I move it and set it.
Thanks

**paleologos** · September 21, 2014, 12:53 PM

Did you try selecting the corresponding loints and move them along with the corresponding vertices?

**BM309K58SMERCH** · September 21, 2014, 01:52 PM

You don't need to bend the arm for a standard bearer! Just move the banner/flag/standard to the soldier's arm and rotate the flag so that it will appear that he is "holding" it. Rotate the standard so that the banner will "aim" at an ideal direction.

You probably want to bend the arm as this tutorial states, but I'd say that it isn't necessary if you got proper animations for banner bearers. Just rotate the banner itself like it is a normal polearm.

**paleologos** · September 21, 2014, 03:36 PM

Well, if you just want to place the standard shaft right into the figure's hand you'd better do it like BM309K58SMERCH said.

**Gigantus** · September 21, 2014, 10:32 PM

It's only a matter of placing the banner correctly and using the proper animation.

using this animation in modeldb:

4
4 None
19 MTW2_Fast_Swordsman 0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 14 fs_test_shield
0
5 Horse
12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield
0
8 elephant
18 MTW2_Elephant_Crew 0
1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
0
5 camel
12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield
0
-1 0 0 0 0 0 0

**han891** · October 01, 2014, 04:07 PM

Thanks for the help everyone!!! :-)

**Gigantus** · October 01, 2014, 07:52 PM

One is glad to be of service

**AdmiralThrawn** · October 04, 2014, 11:23 PM

Hey, so I just tried that animation/position out, and it doesn't work with most of the different types of units:

**Gigantus** · October 05, 2014, 04:56 AM

You need to rotate the banner around it's axis and maybe tilt it up a little (see the Milkshape picture). Once the unit starts marching the banner will be upright.

**han891** · November 01, 2014, 06:29 PM

How can you tilt the hand and banner up at the same time using milkshape?

**k/t** · November 01, 2014, 06:33 PM

Are the deer flag soldiers from Westeros?

**AnthoniusII** · November 04, 2014, 11:27 AM

I use BM309K58SMERCH's mentioned tutorial ... Its a bit harder but results may be quite good espesialy if you assign the banner vertices to corect bones!

The banners have a primary "waving" effect!
With the same tutorial and vertices assignment you can have also these (watch the toughs of Pechenegs in 0,17 & 0,54)