eb team must see this

[ekdqn]

'spear' stat on (export_descr_unit - stat_sec_attr or stat_pri_attr) is not good stat
this stat will going to make unit's formation break



like this

i hope you change 'spear' stat to 'light_spear' stat

'light_spear' stat is just protection of cavarly charge

[ekdqn]

i changed my self for showing

which one is batter?

[Moros]

Could you post a comparison (screenshots or movie) or something. I will forward this to our statting guy.

[ekdqn]

Could you post a comparison (screenshots or movie) or something. I will forward this to our statting guy.

[ekdqn]

spear = http://youtu.be/9srZatnDKKo


light_spear = http://youtu.be/62S59vGArBE

[ekdqn]

however there is still problem with animation
but if you change spear to light_spear you can fix 80% of this problem

[Ehrmahgehrden]

however there is still problem with animation
but if you change spear to light_spear you can fix 80% of this problem

I'm a hardcore noob but does this affect the effectiveness of your troops in any way or is it just a sort of formality ?

[LinusLinothorax]

I am shocked! Ekdqn made a meaningful thread! It seems that his idea really seems to work.

[WAD81]

spear = different bracing mechanism against cavalry in MT2 (it worked fine with under-arm grip there); in EB it causes the units to lose formation & spears get tangled with over-arm grip, especially with very long battles when one soldier penetrates the 'shield wall' and makes it 'tangled'

light_spear = works better good for keeping formation, eg. Kareus unit, they keep solid front nicely

Also, spear gives massive bonus against cavalry and penalty against infantry. Light_spear to a lesser extent.

This gets even more complicated because the EB team decided to give some units additional bonus against cavalry. +1, +2 etc But what were the reasons for that? Also, some spears have attack 2, some have 8. Some are spear, some are light_spear....

My suggestion, give all spearmen light_spear attribute. Those with longer & finely made spears should get +3 against cavalry in addition.

[Smeel]

A very interesting find, Ekdqn, nice catch!

[ekdqn]

i dont know who are and where are eb team
are they watching this forum?

[naq]

Nice! It might be the solution for the formation problem. EB team should see this.

[Space Voyager]

i dont know who are and where are eb team
are they watching this forum?

They will see, don't worry. One of the members already posted here.

[Thuycidides]

When I change this in export_descr_unit EBII no longer starts. I can put it back, but I'd like to have the hoplites keep their formation.

[AL GhoutI]

try with latest version of notepad++ to edit. Earlier versions made the file lose its format for me and game crashed loading.

[Thuycidides]

Still no luck even with notepad++ changes to export_descr_unit.

[ekdqn]

Still no luck even with notepad++ changes to export_descr_unit.

here is temporarily file

i hope eb team take my opinion

export_descr_unit.txt light spear patch

export_descr_unit.txt backup

[Thuycidides]

Thanks. I figured out the issue. Changing the file is not save-game compatible. Good to know!