EUIV Multiplayer V

[abbews]

It is so clear that Musty is a programmer/coder.

[Ynen]

Haha

[Pat89]

It is so clear that Musty is a programmer/coder.

Yep

[cpdwane]

I'd vote 1,1.

Also, is anyone playing France in the next game? I may switch to Savoy rather than Brittany if that is the case.

[High Chunker Greens]

Scratch this, see below.

[High Chunker Greens]

I'm going to rescind my previous choice. I don't want to play France, I'd far rather take Hansa so that we have more people trading. I'd much rather see France die a horrible death and be chunked between England, Brittany, Spain, Burgundy and potentially the Italian powers if they can get there fast enough.

I'll play Hansa instead.

[Petrucci]

yeee no France!

[Cryers-]

Bold meh

[Petrucci]

Castile and England are slightly buffed and Austria become number one nation in Europe
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...r-Idea-Changes

EDIT: I just role over thread and found that new godlike Austria isn't picked yet! Ynen, Musty and rest of you who haven't confrimed your picks yet; hurry up and seize opportunity.

[Ynen]

Its still pretty meh.

Apart from that, you should know by now that musty and I each have their own standards when picking a nation. Musty never plays OP nations just cause they're OP. I stopped playing nations that are horrible stuck between other players.

[Ciciro]

Castile and England are slightly buffed and Austria become number one nation in Europe
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...r-Idea-Changes

EDIT: I just role over thread and found that new godlike Austria isn't picked yet! Ynen, Musty and rest of you who haven't confrimed your picks yet; hurry up and seize opportunity.

Austria? Oh, you must be talking about Czech Germany.

[Pat89]

Its still pretty meh.

Apart from that, you should know by now that musty and I each have their own standards when picking a nation. Musty never plays OP nations just cause they're OP. I stopped playing nations that are not OP.

Fixed

[Petrucci]

Hahaha Pat 1: Ynen 0

[Ynen]

Fixed

If I wanted to play pure OP-ness I would play France, thank you very much.
Also, I am possibly playing the Byzzies this time, which means I am playing one of the most doomed nations around. If you consider them OP I am not sure what you wouldn't consider OP....

[High Chunker Greens]

Once you survive the first 10 years you're set, you'll just replace the Ottomans.

[Ciciro]

Once you survive the first 10 years you're set, you'll just replace the Ottomans.

But he wont have that damn triple manpower bonus at least.

[Pat89]

France is only OP if you have cowardly neighbours.

This game however it seems there is no France and I like it. Just got to stomp Burgundy enough so they don't just take their place instead.

[Ynen]

Once you survive the first 10 years you're set, you'll just replace the Ottomans.

Shhhhhh they haven't realised that yet.

But he wont have that damn triple manpower bonus at least.

Neither do the Ottomans. Byzantium also has a pretty good idea group y'know.

[Nelon]

I'll be playing

[Musthavename]

But he wont have that damn triple manpower bonus at least.

That's gone now. Paradox realised how stupidly overpowered that was. Ottomans just get +20% manpower recovery now. Still a good idea, but nowhere near what it was.

Shhhhhh they haven't realised that yet.

Neither do the Ottomans. Byzantium also has a pretty good idea group y'know.

They do indeed. Many of them are better than the Ottomans, though they do miss the excellent 33% core discount the Ottomans get. They also get "Establish the Theme System" which is another +25% manpower bonus. Depending on which way you go, being Orthodox instead of Sunni also has its merits. They're also in a better tech group and get a bunch of extra points events (which give more points than they take). The only problem is you spend the first so many years simply becoming what the Ottomans are to start with.