Invisible Great Faction hero CTD

**sickNsane** · August 20, 2014, 11:47 PM

Playing as Ba-Shu and had just adopted a family member then captured Jiang Zhou with Yan Yan and Li Yan and was awarded with three officials one being Wang Kwang, I moved Wang into the city then attempted to march Yan Yans force out and south, as i did a red circle appeared saying i was trying to merge with a "Great Faction Hero" that wasnt there and when i right clicked got an instant CTD. Tried it again and this time moved Yan yan first then moved Kwang into the city no problem, then did it a third time same as the first and got Another CTD, here is the log.

**Seether** · August 21, 2014, 06:09 AM

Is this because of your own modding work? If so we can't offer support or help, outside of pointing you to the Medieval II Mod Workshop, as we don't know what you have actually changed.

**sickNsane** · August 21, 2014, 12:27 PM

No I havnt modded M2 or this mod at all this happenes with the current version and current patch

EDIT* I did change the game to fullscreen. Also tried the new sounds submod, but backed everything up before that and didnt care for it and changed it back. Nothing that would have caused this.

**Seether** · August 21, 2014, 04:31 PM

This issue can not be from the base mod or with the 1.1 patch because of the following reasons:

Originally Posted by sickNsane

Playing as Ba-Shu and had just adopted a family member then captured Jiang Zhou with Yan Yan and Li Yan and was awarded with three officials one being Wang Kwang...

There is no such character in the mod, nor is there such a name in Ba-Shu's name list or in any name list for any faction; this means the name would have had to have been added. Also, the three officers spawned are Li Hui, Huang Quan, and Xu Jing.

I moved Wang into the city then attempted to march Yan Yans force out and south, as i did a red circle appeared saying i was trying to merge with a "Great Faction Hero" that wasnt there and when i right clicked got an instant CTD.

"Great Faction Hero" and associated strat model is set by trait and all of them are accounted for in Ba-Shu's roster (none of the three spawned above are GFHs). Being an invisible GFH means they were given a new unlocalized strat model as well as a new trait to be labeled as one of Ba-Shu's GFHs. This means that this invisible one is something not from either v1.0 or the 1.1 patch and was done both poorly and incompletely.

These reasons point to your version of RoTK being modded beyond both the official v1.0 and the 1.1 patch.

**sickNsane** · August 21, 2014, 05:31 PM

Ill double check the name but im telling you I downloaded and installed and have changed nothing other then turnin off window mode per the instructions listed on this site. The only other change was to sounds and as I said I backed up the original files before I changed anything then I changed it right back.

**Seether** · August 21, 2014, 05:36 PM

Coordinates of the invisible general would be appreciated as well.

**sickNsane** · August 21, 2014, 05:40 PM

The officer i was awarded was Huang Quan, sry, had the name wrong.

Coordinate 42,49 Region ID 133 Ba commandery

Not the first time iv seen invisible officers, the beta was really bad for this kind of thing

Remember how in the beta the Rebels would often be invisible on the map? Perhaps its a misplaced rebel GFH?

**Seether** · August 21, 2014, 08:18 PM

Beta was only one specific strat model (which was shared by a lot of the rebel faction). It didn't affect other factions.

You can only merge with armies that are in your faction. According to your OP, it was saying you could merge (not attack), so it could only have been your faction (Ba-Shu), not the rebels. Characters won't spontaneously be "GFH"; as it has to be assigned via strat_model and trait and can only be through script or descr_strat. The only characters that are "GFH" for Ba-Shu are Yan Yan, Zhang Ren, Li Yan, Wu Yi, and Fa Zheng. I'm not really sure what to tell you.

**sickNsane** · August 21, 2014, 09:50 PM

Idk. Just thought it was worth reporting. Thx for the reply

**sickNsane** · August 22, 2014, 02:41 AM

Had 3 generals and some men and tried to move them into a city i owned. All but one of them entered Wu lan stayed outside and had no banner above his head and when i tried to move him into the city he disappeared. I looked in the list scroll and it said that he was in fact in that city but i couldn't move him. I loaded my game and went to the list scroll and this time when i went to move him he was at the very bottom left corner of the map.

*Edit- Moved Wu Lan, Wu Ban and Pang Xi to Ba XI.
Wu Lan was teleported to pos 3,3 region 147 yong chang county

In same play-through tried to move Yan yan and Xu Jing out of Jiang zhou and encountered an invisible great faction hero again in a different spot then my last report(This is also a totally new play through) discussed it a bit with Seether.

Position of this invisible GFH was pos 39,51 region id 133 Ba Commandery

Loaded my game and did not get another invisible GFH however as soon as i loaded Li Yan died and this repeats every time i load.

I think maybe something is causing Li Yan to just die for no reason In my other bug report i was having a problem with an invisible GFH and im wondering if maybe li yan died in that game also and i just didnt notice. Either way the game still wants to let me merge armies with an invisible GFH and i think that invisible GFH is maybe Li Yan after her dies for no reason? some kind of bug here for sure, Also Wu Lan teleporting, idk if there related bugs though. Both of these are issues i seen in the beta but i havnt had either of these happen in The new version until iv tried playing Ba-Shu, nothing but bugs with them iv tried a handful of playthroughs tonight and each time im lucky to hit turn 20 without some kind of bug.

Threads merged due to similar issue

**Seether** · August 22, 2014, 09:18 AM

Are you saving pre-battle?

This sounds like save-game issues due to loading from pre-battle saves and would explain every issue you are reporting.

**sickNsane** · August 22, 2014, 12:54 PM

I have saved Pre battle before never noticed an issue before but ill be careful not to in the future. The times when these bugs have occurred though i wasnt loading from a pre battle save or anything. would that make a difference? or does that just screw a bunch of data up whenever you do it? Ill browse the forum about the issue. As always thanks Seether.

This is what happened with Wu Lan http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...and-teleported

**Seether** · August 22, 2014, 01:18 PM

Anytime.

There are a few posts where I talk about how you shouldn't make pre-battle saves, such as here and here, because it has a high probability of screwing with data and corrupting saves (especially with this mod).