Troops in the field

**Octavius-Augustus** · October 26, 2006, 03:16 AM

I have a question

I read somewhere that troops drain denarii while in the field. If I, for example, don't like the idea of troops giving negative profit while in the field (not in enemy territory, that's cool.), can I 'fix' this only on my version of Bare Bones, :hmmm: cuz I like everything else...

Only that bothers me

So, what do I have to do? Which file do I have to edit? Can I stop only this feature without bugging the whole thing?? Thanks in advance

**Octavius-Augustus** · October 28, 2006, 06:12 AM

Sorry for the topic guys, found the file and certain line and 'fixed' my mod. Just figured out why I can't build a blacksmith in Roma

Cool new feature.

P.S. Bare Bones Wars 0.81 is the best mod I've ever seen! Just.. Brilliant. The battles look so realistic and with the new sprites - no lag for me. :tooth: Campaign maps are fun and historical. The fact that many mods have been combined in one gives results!

Cheers all modders and fans!

**repman** · October 28, 2006, 12:07 PM

@octavius
glad you changed it by youself...
you need iron to build blacksmiths
thanks for the praise

repman

**Francisco Montana** · November 04, 2006, 05:49 PM

First, great mod repman! I have been away from RTW for months and this was a great new mod to come back to!

I do have a question: Is this 'in the field' thing the reason it says I should make 1900 denarii but after all is said and done I end up 1900 denarii in the hole? The finances report and my actual profits rarely (if ever) seem to match up. Right now I do have a sizable army I just built to conquer Illyria (as requested by the Senate - I'm playing as Julii). But they aren't 'in the field'. They are in a town. They aren't in the town they were recruited from, however. So is this what's going on?

Anyway, just wanted to get this thing down so I can plan things better an avoid huge deficits in the future. Absolutely brilliant mod, well done and thanks a bunch!

**repman** · November 05, 2006, 12:41 AM

@lord gruffle
only field costs if they are outside any settlement (ships/forts are no settlements). If they are in a settlement different to their original one, no costs

(this means any army (only army, not diplomat or spy or killer) even without characters outside an settlement cost 1000 each turn on home territory and 2000 on enemy territory, its independent on the size of the army)
One character in it results still in the same penalty (1000/2000). 2 characters in the army double the penalty (2000/4000) and so on. It's not dependent on the army size . You can see the effect if you compare after a turn the detailed treasure box on the left side on your campaign screen with the actual treasure value on the lower right side on the screen...the difference is just the penalty
one army:
no character 1000/2000
1 character 1000/2000
2 character 2000/4000

two armies:
no characters 2000/4000
each one 1 character 2000/4000
each one 2 characters 4000/8000

**Francisco Montana** · November 05, 2006, 09:10 AM

Thanks for the detailed and timely reply, redman. It's appreciated.

This is an interesting idea. It definitely tames the stack after stack attack from the Gauls, I've noticed. Hmmm, very interesting.

Thanks again!

**repman** · November 05, 2006, 09:29 AM

The army field costs are only for the player. The AI can't handle it, not programmed for it

repman

**Francisco Montana** · November 05, 2006, 10:29 AM

Oh, good. I started thinking that the AI would be screwed with it enacted for them. This is simply an amazing mod. Many kudos to all the modders involved.

**Francisco Montana** · November 05, 2006, 11:17 AM

Sorry for the double post, but, what about on ships? Are you still 'charged' if you have troops out to sea? :hmmm:

**repman** · November 05, 2006, 12:22 PM

yes, sea travel was expansive

repman

**The Bogeyman** · November 05, 2006, 02:04 PM

Hi there!
@ octavius: could you please be so kind and tell me what file it is?
I´d like to change that too.
Thanks a lot
Bogey

**Francisco Montana** · November 06, 2006, 05:40 PM

Just search this sub-forum for 'field costs', Bogeyman.

You'll find the answer.

**Ciaran S** · November 25, 2006, 04:05 AM

Wow, that is one cool feature, how did you do it? Or is it one of your business secrets? If it´s done by script, I wonder if the script could be modified so that an army that´s out in the field slowly loses men (due to disease, exhaustion, etc; after all, Henry V had to fight a heroic battle at Agincourt because he had exhausted his army campaigning up and down through Northern France, and the Siege of Harfleur, to give one example. Hannibals crossing of the Alps would be another, and I guess sifting through history would turn up more). One of my gripes in RTW is that besieging armies don´t lose men as they do in MTW, so basically attacking a settlement outright always is dominated by besieging it some turns, it gives you free kills.

**repman** · November 25, 2006, 02:19 PM

@ciaran s
there are no business secrets, look into the threads
interesting idea, but killing people in an army in the fields i don't know how to do it

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd FactionType romans_julii
and FactionIsLocal
and not EndedInSettlement
and not AgentType = admiral
and not AgentType = spy
and not AgentType = diplomat
and not AgentType = assassin
and InEnemyLands

console_command add_money romans_julii, -2000

end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd FactionType romans_julii
and FactionIsLocal
and not EndedInSettlement
and not AgentType = admiral
and not AgentType = spy
and not AgentType = diplomat
and not AgentType = assassin
and not InEnemyLands

console_command add_money romans_julii, -1000

end_monitor

repman