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    Default You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz! )

    Late Era , StainlessSteel 6.4 Hotseat



    Yet, you can fight eachother. Perhaps it is our way to overcome the fate intended us by the actions of others?
    This is the map restrictions and mod settings to be used



    You can go outside the border but must not keep any captured lands there.
    Nor use said land to gain money from the AI, building destruc rules still applies.

    Genoas region outside the border may be captured and kept, but if any factions have no region inside the border they are automatically destroyed.



    Admins: Jiub and Loose Cannon

    Ill make sure this hotseat goes as fast while Neutral admin handles any real violations.


    Poland: dead
    Teutonic Order:
    Vipman
    Lithuania: Mithridate
    Scotland: Arrow2daknee
    Norway: Legourou
    Denmark:
    yuonyuon



    Basic Rules:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    -You are not allowed to expand outside the red line, you can fight and conquer there but must give up regions immediately and only occupy
    Since reloading is allowed ,Heroic victories are banned. So if you obtain one of them, you must reload until you get a different type of result.
    - Turns must be played within 24h or you will be skipped, and player can get an extension if asked(but it should be done only occasionally and with stated reason).
    - Notify next player who comes after your turn by post message or leaving message on message board!
    You can go outside the border but must not keep any captured lands there.
    Nor use said land to gain money from the AI, building destruc rules still applies.


    The neutral admin can use his own discretion to best enforce these rules in the spirit of a good fun competition,
    I endorse hard lining the rules when in doubt over making exceptions in general however.

    The rules are here to guide us for equal, fair and balanced gameplay.


    Battle Rules:

    - Armies that are defeated in battle by a player that comes after them in the turn list may not move the following turn. This is to make it fair for people who are defeated by players that come before them in the turn list. Armies standing in fortifications (fort/settlement) when defeated are excluded from this rule.
    - All Player vs Player battles must be auto-resolved. Battles against AI can be played. Note: Screenshots are to be posted as evidence of auto-resolve.(The Odds and Results windows must not be edited in any way. Editing out Map info, Cash, and any Units/Agents/Regions not involved in the attack is fine).
    -No attacking ships inside a port.You cannot leave a blocked port without fighting the enemy ships first. If a player keeps an army inside a fleet inside a port,
    other players are allowed to attack that fleet even if it's inside a port or the admin can choose to have the player fined (if you don't know how, ask me).
    -you can build only two forts per region max per faction.

    -You cannot sally out from your settlement/fort, or attack the army besieging your settlement/fort if the result is a defeat


    Agents Rules:
    - Spies aren't allowed to spread plague in any case not matter what.
    - Spies can be used against forts and settlements as long as you have at least 60% of chances of infiltration. You'll need 2 to open a fort/settlement. ( You have to re-infiltrate if a defending spy has been placed and you are to show post screens for each spys odds)
    - Each faction cannot recruit more than a assassin every 5 regions owned beyond 9. So to recruit the second assassin you'd need to own 10 regions or more. For the third
    15 or more and so on.. Suicide any additional assassins immediately or contact admin to remove them.
    - Assassins cannot sabotage Assassins can only kill:"Priests/imams/spies/merchants/generals/FMs" as long as they have 50% of chances. Only 30% is needed vs enemy assassins
    -Merchants can seize other merchants only if they have 50% of chances.
    - No exploiting merchants in the form of merchant stack - (Putting several merchants in an army or fort/military-unit securing a resource).
    - Pic must be taking for successful bribery, only the treasury may be edited away.
    -All the agents rules are applicable humans and not AI


    Building Rules:
    - Only Inns/Guilds are allowed to be manually destroyed
    - If a settlement is under siege then it is NOT ALLOWED to destroy any buildings in the settlement.
    - You are not allowed to exterminate a settlement in the map . This is because it will destroy many buildings in the settlement(Possibly downgrade a settlement). This is also valid against the AI


    Diplomacy rules
    Crusades/Jihads are banned and not to be called or joined
    -No allying Pope
    -No giving provinces in a warzone inside the border to AI (it means regions bordering-by land- with a
    human faction you're at war with). It's ok giving it to a human-controlled faction.
    -Any new player taking command of a faction previously held by another player cannot attack a faction he's officially allied with for at least 5 turns, or until the allies of that faction break/show clear intent of breaking the deal.
    - Any regions that are gifted, sold, traded with another Faction must have all units except one disbanded immediatly!
    -Is not allowed to vassallage AI factions or gain money from them via diplomacy by gifting regions.
    -Faction Suicide is illegal. Anyone suspecting someone else trying to commit suicide or not playing to the best of his abilities must report it to an admin immediately. Any party involved in the splitting up or taking advantage of such gameplay will be fined accordingly.

    Bugs/Exploits:
    The mov.bugs cannot be used. All bugs in general are banned unless explicitly allowed.
    Last edited by Mithridate; March 16, 2015 at 02:01 AM.
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    Announcements:

    Post if you want to take a faction, I am alright with playing the TO if someone really wants to play Lithuania.
    If you have any suggestions for this hotseat, its rules or map restrictions then PM me or post here.

    I will change the turn order so that Norway starts first, then Lithu/TO, Denmark/Poland and finally Scotland ( or roughly so )
    I will try to change the order as able according to players avaivable times, you will have 24 hours for your turns but Ill make a 6 hour shedule as able so that we will hopefully cover turns much faster ( players arranged as per playtimes and timezones ). So send me your avaivable times, keep in mind you STILL HAVE 24 hours if you need em!

    Made some changes to the old map used, I will most likely not allow brand new players to participate
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate

    I will play Norway.

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate

    Denmark please

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    We only need one more player and we can start:

    Teutonic order OR Lithuania ( I prefer playing Lithuania^^ )
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    i will take TO !

    Edit : just a sec , who is Matto18 ??
    Last edited by yuonyuon; August 11, 2014 at 02:00 AM.

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    Alright, I will start work on this when I have internet again.

    Too lazy to arrange according to time zones...
    Will make it: Norway - Lithuania - Teutonic Order - Poland - Denmark - Scotland.

    Also have to brush up rules
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    Is TO still availible?

    Goddamnit

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    Sorry guy, we are full and the file needed to start has been sent to the admins ( Jiub and Loose )
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithridate View Post
    Alright, I will start work on this when I have internet again.

    Too lazy to arrange according to time zones...
    Will make it: Norway - Lithuania - Teutonic Order - Poland - Denmark - Scotland.

    Also have to brush up rules
    Why me last? I am arguably the weakest faction xD

    I suggest: Norway - Lithuania - Scotland - TO - Denmark - Poland

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    I have the first save ready. Waiting on mith to confirm or decline use of permanent arrows and watchtowers.
    Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance-David Mamet

    Old age and forgetfullness makes it . . .er, I forgot-Loose Cannon

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( Turn 1! TO or Lithuania openn )

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Mac View Post
    Why me last? I am arguably the weakest faction xD

    I suggest: Norway - Lithuania - Scotland - TO - Denmark - Poland
    Scotland before TO? Or Denmark? Nah.

    Scotland is isolated enough that it should at least be 2nd behind Poland.

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    Agreed, I feel rather convinced that this is the correct turn order judging from strenght, position and potential

    May the force be with you, Norway.
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    Dr Mac is right: Scotland is the weakest faction of the lot.
    Actually it's so weak that if by chance he manages to win, all the other players should retire from HSing (and I'm not exaggerating, Scotland is terribly weak).
    With this setup the faction strength -considering the map- would go this way (form the weakest to the strongest):
    Scotland-TO-Poland-Norway-Denmark-Lithuania

    Lithuania,Norway and Denmark have the best (and by a wide margin) unit roaster. But while Denmark has access to a Fortress (Hamburg) and Lithuania to a large city (Novgorod), Norway hardly have access to any of them. Large cities and fortresses make a huge difference with SS 6.4.
    Lithuania has a better position then Denmark though.
    Poland and TO have very weak UR (it's not just about unit's strength but more importantly about recruitment rate), Poland starts with more settlements and a Fortress but TO starts with better armies, and in theory should be able to take Turku, and who knows..maybe Novgorod too might not be impossible.

    Scotland can't be commented..like I said is so hard that difficulty is on "legendary" level on a HS. If other players are not totally noob there's no way Scotland can win .

    Just my 2 cents
    Last edited by invicta; August 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM.
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    Yeah Mostly agree with that , Scotland is the weakest faction from SS(forget the cumans) .units are crappy and expensive as hell .mercenary are the only hope and some units in Nottingham that s all.

    still i don t think Lithuania is such a big deal at turn 1 , is not that i don t like the idea to put Lithuania after TO but he is not the best from this HS

    edit : Loose Cannon as admin again...arghhhhhhh! ... i wonder if he knows .

    these are romanian jokes , please don t get mad on me
    Last edited by yuonyuon; August 13, 2014 at 12:48 PM.

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    I'd certainly agree that scotland is crap, except not under these conditions.

    Takes a look at Teutonic Unit rooster
    ( balks at what they can make from a regular castle alone )*shakes head * Double checks that I can reach Novgorod with an inf army with TO as fast as I can a CAV army with Lithu * sighs *

    Realizes that you did not even think of the fact that the order can wipe out half of the Lithuanian military and take a third of their lands by turn 2 while lithu can do nothing... Now I do love showing you wrong but id rather not tell my fellow players what to do so:

    Go home Invicta - yer drunk
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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    here is my order: Norway-Scotland-Lithuania-TO-Denmark-Poland

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    Quote Originally Posted by yuonyuon View Post
    Yeah Mostly agree with that , Scotland is the weakest faction from SS(forget the cumans) .units are crappy and expensive as hell .mercenary are the only hope and some units in Nottingham that s all.

    still i don t think Lithuania is such a big deal at turn 1 , is not that i don t like the idea to put Lithuania after TO but he is not the best from this HS

    edit : Loose Cannon as admin again...arghhhhhhh! ... i wonder if he knows .

    these are romanian jokes , please don t get mad on me
    For that comment, the admin has fined Poland 5000 florins
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    Now THAT was a joke


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    I m not Poland. lol ...geez this will be a bloody HS !)))))))

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    Default Re: You can't Fight Fate ( SS 6.4 Baltic Blitz )

    Good luck everyone. I hope to have a lot of fun.

    Lithuania is next.
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