Soldiers disappearing like ghosts when you zoom at them a CA patch14 implemented feature.... (EDIT) PATCH 16 WOS DLC 5 MONTHS LATER AND CA STILL IGNORES THE REQUEST

**Megasalexandros** · July 22, 2014, 07:43 PM

DISCLAIMER : i KNOW the use of the N key which is being fanatically reffered from the supporters of the fade out thing as a suposed solution , but the N KEY IS NOT a solution for live gameplay because you can only use the N key statically from a fixed point and with a rotation capability only, the N key is completely useless during live gameplay and it only serves as a distant zooming capability for videos and photos since you loose the zoom at the slightest movement of the cursor or the single pressing of a button, when you actually want to move the camera during live gameplay within the action the fade out will be triggered.
I wont discuss the N key thing again which is NO solution to that particular problem, and has nothing to do with the point the thread is trying to make which is the FADE OUT IT SELF.

As the title suggests the new patch implements a new rather annoying feature according to my debug camera preferences, when i get to close to my soldiers as i constantly do the soldiers are graying out far to early not allowing the ultra close up view of a fighting soldier.
For the name of gods(!) please change that feature back to what was like originally or at least ca tells as how we can eradicate that feature through the db because for me personally and i think for many other close up view fans , it ruins the fan of being able to watch the fight from up close.
Iam about to reverse the game back to patch 13 just for that thing, this is how much upset it makes me.
Please reconsider that choice or tells as how to change it at least

THIS IS HOW CLOSE YOU COULD GET BEFORE THE WEIRD DECISION OF CA TO MAKE YOUR FRONT LINE DISAPPEAR LIKE GHOSTS

Example this is how close you can get with the "fade out" thing that CA thought would be clever to introduce.
THE WHOLE FRONT LINE IS MISSING AND YOU CAN BARELY MAKE OUT THE CENTURION TO THE RIGHT

**IlluminatiRex** · July 22, 2014, 08:49 PM

Personally, I've been using GCamera since release. This change doesn't bug me, as I take all my screenshots using the the "Smart Zoom" or whatever it is called (when you press N). And for video making, I can see this having cleaner shots free of unnecessary clipping.

**Megasalexandros** · July 22, 2014, 08:56 PM

it bothers me while iam actually playing, not while iam taking schreenshots or taking videos(which i dont)

**General George S. Patton** · July 22, 2014, 09:01 PM

I am split with this, sometime's it's annoying sometimes I like it. I think the range for the unit to disappear need to be decrease until it only disappears when ur camera would actually be inside the unit.

**Hetairos** · July 22, 2014, 09:02 PM

I thought its much better now, instead of clipping units grey out. Is it really that close? While playing sieges I actually found the feature quiet nice, of course I didn't test how close one must be to grey them out. Any other opinions or tests of if this greying out happens to early? If its way too early, I support it, but I think it was quiet ok, no?

**General George S. Patton** · July 22, 2014, 09:22 PM

I think they need to no make it gradual, its either visible or not.

**Causeless** · July 22, 2014, 09:30 PM

Disagree. The slow fade in looks much nicer.

**Megasalexandros** · July 22, 2014, 09:35 PM

either way iam a close up fun and it ruins it for me, i find the change irritating and the graying out happening way too early,but at least they must inform as in order to change that optionaly with pfm for eg

**IlluminatiRex** · July 22, 2014, 09:43 PM

I play up close as well, but I do prefer how it looks now, never a fan of the clipping. Maybe the range should be decreased by like 1 soldier and then it would be perfect.

**Sebidee** · July 22, 2014, 09:54 PM

Clipping through units and seeing their tongue, eyeballs, or the back of their head through their face was one of my least favourite things about the game, this is much better.

The patch is in beta and you can suggest to reduce the range of the fade out on the official forums. Have you done that?

**Megasalexandros** · July 22, 2014, 09:59 PM

I dont care about seeing inside the model as long as i can have my close up, with the debug camera when your zoom into a unit you cannot see a soldier from a close up view any more, you can only see the man behind and a gray out lay, thats what will make me stop updating rome seriously, if i cant reverse it with some modding.
and dont have any accounts in the official forums unfortunately

**Sebidee** · July 22, 2014, 10:01 PM

Is the debug camera a mod?

**Megasalexandros** · July 22, 2014, 10:01 PM

no its just a choice in the preferences txt file

**Sebidee** · July 22, 2014, 10:11 PM

What about when you use the N key to zoom? does that still work?

**IlluminatiRex** · July 22, 2014, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Sebidee

What about when you use the N key to zoom? does that still work?

It does, though if a soldier has faded away because you are too close, it will still be faded away.

**Puerkl8r** · July 22, 2014, 10:58 PM

I also hate the new camera, i play zoomed in a lot and the new fade breaks the immersion, It should only fade if your camera is at a spot where it would actually be clipping through the unit.