[Gaming Staff Hotseat] Tyrants

[Riverknight]

The save is from today..the one you posted..anyone can check that..
You're the one claiming that you got the save from the previous page..anyone can read that..

And one thing that puzzled me from the start since when you joined this forum (and I mean twcenter..), was to join a HS .. a Westeros HS in the Main HS section..
But what was strange, was that in one of your posts, you addressed me, like you knew me (but you couldn't know me since you just joined and we never played before together) and 5 minutes later you edited (for no reasons..other than)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post11251914

And btw avoiding ip checks it's quite easy by using a proxy or many other easy methods.

Are.... are you suggesting they are the same guy???!!

Seriously?

I regularly skype Mac and once skyped Mith, trust me it is hard to seperate a Liverpool and Swedish accent This has gone from being an honest inquiry into something strange... all of you stop this I will ask around about the save, Mith did PM me saying something about the save I will double check.


Honestly, lets calm down here. EVERYONE!

[Mithridate]

And some player here, has even played once or more with this map and setup (or very close to it). So they know exactly what to do since turn 1. This will give them a huge advantage over other players (even players who played with SS but not with this setup).

Problem with this kind of HS, is that they're very much relying on the initial setup. Unlike big HS with space between factions, here the outcome will be heavily determined by the initial advantage of some factions.
All players being equal in abilities and knowledge (and you're at disadvantage in knowledge), Sicily has 65% chances of winning (yes that much is its advantage, I'll probably explain later when we get close to the end of the campaign), Portugal 20%, Venice 10%, Aragon 3%, Castille 1%,Genoa Below 1%.
In setup like this, players have not the time (as those HS are shorter) or the possibility (as some faction has more chances to expand against the AI, and even between the factions who have more possibilities to expand against the AI, like Sicily,Aragon and Portugal, Sicily is the ones which can capture the easiest targets, while on the other end Aragon has the most difficult ones like Pamplona and Tolouse). And there are inequalities (like unit roaster, on which Sicily with Venice-if it manages to stay alive- right behind it, have some edge over the others.Genoa is in theory as strong as Sicily and a tiny bit better than Venice, but in practice it needs fortresses to be that good and have a chance for victory, but the closest-most accessible are Tunis and Palermo which are virtually impossible to take from Sicily for Genoa ) which you can't make up for.

I wont even touch those statistics, suffice to say that this being my third play with relatively this setup:

Aragon was by far the easiest faction to play, Venice topping Sicily even when second in turn order and this can be clearly seen by in game statistics.
You have better quality men and outnumber me 2:1 despite having a halfstack in reserve for Genoa, as to what faction has better grabbings?

Aragon has the best ones, with Venice and Sicily following close behind. Venice with the richest cities in the game, Sicily's being easier to take for those whom does not know how to exploit the AI like we do but vastly inferior on the income and recruitment ( but alas, a fortress! ). Now as to what is better, we can discuss to no end

Lastly: Mac can deny it, but we are of one soul - one heart.

The fact that you were experienced in HSing didn't puzzle me too much, but the fact that you jointly exploited the mechanics of the game with Mithridate..that puzzled me..you just joined and barely knew the guy, to run the risk that he'd report you for such things.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post11575045
Other than you, i've never seen players exploiting the game jointly. Ususally players do that alone in secrecy.

Oh please, the same HS you deliberately and admittedly bug abused, where you and all those opposing us got endless gold from a cheating admin ( got banned for cheating with console ).

We've been over this already, multiple times. Move on.

[Luume]

Thanks for the save Dr Mith (Mac)

Portugal - http://www.mediafire.com/download/z4...Portugal_3.sav

[Dr Mac]

OK here we go, my final explanation. Dissect is as you will, but I will discuss it no longer.

Mith uploaded a faulty save, he's been really busy so he PMed me the save via Skype (albeit 2 days later than the original). I therefore uploaded it onto here for him and said that I had used the previous one to prevent uproar.

If I had said in the first place that mith had sent it via PM you would've been very suspicious and would have started a discussion. I therefore said a white lie so we could move on with the game that is simply all. Not really much I can say :S

Talk of me and mith being the same guy is quite absurd though. If we were one guy then he would be a bloody strange one whom never sleeps xD

Just to add "But what was strange, was that in one of your posts, you addressed me, like you knew me" I have that effect on people irl, normally a good thing xD

[Dr Mac]

Sorry for being late

[Vipman]

... http://www.mediafire.com/download/vu...t_Aragon_3.rar

[The Guy With No Imagination]

Venice

[invicta]

Sicily's up
https://www.mediafire.com/#myfiles
Although unlikely that my turn comes up earlier (Luume told me is on holiday until sunday) , if my turn comes up earlier, pls don't sub me.
I'll be back on Saturday afternoon and max Sunday morning I'll be able to play.
Each of my turn is very important and describe what I'm doing would take too long, so don't sub/skip.

[Riverknight]

Invicta, that link goes nowhere.

[Mithridate]

I told you both that three days ago -.-'

[Riverknight]

I know, just wanted to let people know that I know he is late.

If I did not say anything people may think I went AFK.

I also have been pming him on both TWC and .org.


**update**

Invicta PMed me on .org stating he is on holiday (I remember seeing it somewhere)

He will do the turn tomorrow.

[Mithridate]

Mostly logged in to reply to admin related stuff, I have not forgotten and will play asap.

Will update on Monday at the very least.

[Mithridate]

Long live Sicily, the one heralds of the heavens!

I believe you have lost the initiative my dear Doge, you've shifted between aggressive and surprisingly passive - yet:
I am a gambling man of the faith - it is time for a push, one way or another blood be spilled.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Mayday! Mayday!
The ship is slowly sinking
They think I'm crazy but they don't know the feeling
They're all around me,
Circling like vultures
They wanna break me and wash away my colors
Wash away my colors


The Venetian Doge strikes, his dogs swarm before us as the brave defenders of Bari buys us much time needed...


Take me high and I'll sing
Oh you make everything okay (okay, okay)
We are one in the same
Oh you take all of the pain away (away, away)
Save me if I become
My demons


The king of Sicily rises, seems we killed all the Moors dear Calif.


I cannot stop this sickness taking over
It takes control and drags me into nowhere
I need your help, I can't fight this forever
I know you're watching,
I can feel you out there


The Pope is deposed, a man on a leash with a deaf ear to the heavens. He let fellow christian blood be spilled, so we spilled his.


Take me high and I'll sing
Oh you make everything okay (okay, okay)
We are one in the same
Oh you take all of the pain away (away, away)
Save me if I become
My demons


Excommunicate, let heavens will be done. Let us be the Celestial sword, or grant us swift destruction.


Take me over the walls below
Fly forever
Don't let me go
I need a savior to heal my pain
When I become my worst enemy
The enemy


Our warriors stand firm, an united front against the red tide. Three for every one of us, we shall not falter.


Take me high and I'll sing
Oh you make everything okay (okay, okay)
We are one in the same
Oh you take all of the pain away (away, away)
Save me if I become
My demons

Alea Iacta est, libera nos e pax vobiscum
http://www.filedropper.com/tyrantgenoa4

Is the initiative mine now, perhaps even mine to keep?

The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands,
but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

[themzr]

? What just happened I thought I was playing Venice now Riverknight?

[Riverknight]

? What just happened I thought I was playing Venice now Riverknight?

You are...

[Mithridate]

? What just happened I thought I was playing Venice now Riverknight?

You are...

May want to inform people of things like this?
Is Invicta gone and not coming back for some reason?

[Loose Cannon]

thought I posted this last night Riverknight has asked me to cover him until the 1st of August. When Venice is up again please notify me so i can send a cleared save to themzr.

[Riverknight]

May want to inform people of things like this?
Is Invicta gone and not coming back for some reason?

Been a bit busy with vacation stuff and trying to fix EU IV.

He left due to not being in the mood to hotseat.

[Luume]

Sorry, but I'm gonna need a slight extention

[Riverknight]

Sorry, but I'm gonna need a slight extention

That is ok

But honestly guys, this whole extension every turn thing has to end soon.

If I wasn't so against subbing as an admin it would me vs me all around this game :p