New Scripts

**Melooo182** · October 13, 2014, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Deteriorate

If it's possible to keep without too much work or bogging down turn times, having two rivalling factions with a "Duke of Burgundy" or whatever is a nice little feature to have. I think of it as a dispute between who is the rightful heir of the title... the conqueror or the ancestral claimant

Like for HRE and France, the one that hold the strip of land that includes Brujes, Antwerp, Metz and Dijon (Lyon and Marseille too perhaps) gets it?

It could even be that if a same general captures or governs each of those 4 settlements for some specific time he gets a "Duke of Burgundy" trait + non-transferable ancillary mainly for showing a coat of arms in the character scroll.
and with other triggers it could be made somewhat hereditary, like crusader states fiefs.

That sounds fun

**gsthoed** · October 13, 2014, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Melooo182

It could even be that if a same general captures or governs each of those 4 settlements for some specific time he gets a "Duke of Burgundy" trait + non-transferable ancillary mainly for showing a coat of arms in the character scroll.
and with other triggers it could be made somewhat hereditary, like crusader states fiefs.

That sounds fun

If you can program the AI to seek this (so as to not be another one advantage a player has over the AI) and you 'll balance this benefit for other faction too, it would be fun for me too

**Melooo182** · October 13, 2014, 01:43 PM

nah the AI would get the trait just by owning the settlements because its too stupid to do otherwise xD
a day may come the AI gets tired of being called stupid and get back at us, but that day is not today!...wait what?

**gsthoed** · October 13, 2014, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Melooo182

nah the AI would get the trait just by owning the settlements because its too stupid to do otherwise xD
a day may come the AI gets tired of being called stupid and get back at us, but that day is not today!...wait what?

Lately, I'm with the AI! I take offend when you're calling my favorite player stupid

Ok then:
In CS (simplified version):

Code:

monitor_event FactionTurnEnd

    set_event_counter Duke_bamd 0
end_monitor

monitor_event SettlementTurnStart IsRegionOneOf Brujes_Province, Antwerp_Province, Metz_Province, Dijon_Province
 and not FactionwideAncillaryExists duke_bamd

    inc_event_counter Duke_bamd 1
end_monitor

In EDCT

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

In EDA

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Deteriorate** · October 13, 2014, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Melooo182

Like for HRE and France, the one that hold the strip of land that includes Brujes, Antwerp, Metz and Dijon (Lyon and Marseille too perhaps) gets it?

It could even be that if a same general captures or governs each of those 4 settlements for some specific time he gets a "Duke of Burgundy" trait + non-transferable ancillary mainly for showing a coat of arms in the character scroll.
and with other triggers it could be made somewhat hereditary, like crusader states fiefs.

That sounds fun

Well what I was suggesting specifically was less impressive. I just meant maintaining the current system of Dual titles (ancillary or trait) if achievable. Like how a conquering general can take a title from the city of a defending faction while the defending faction still has a general with the title, from previous governance.

What you propose is awesome, I LOVE the idea of hereditary titles, not only for province groups like you suggest but for individual settlements. Wasting a general to fetch titles from all over hell's half acre and deliver them to other generals is exhausting. Even if the title goes to someone undeserving / incompetent... I'm sure that happened a lot in those times anyway

**gsthoed** · October 14, 2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Deteriorate

Wasting a general to fetch titles from all over hell's half acre and deliver them to other generals is exhausting. Even if the title goes to someone undeserving / incompetent... I'm sure that happened a lot in those times anyway

The AI doesn't do that at all, even if it is at the "neighborhood". Even if it is "exhausting" for the player, it is something that he/she can do, while the AI cannot do. A player's named_character can have -and usually does so- many type dearmad_her titles, while the AI sticks to one.
The best approach I can think for hereditary titles are "FatherDiesNatural" triggers in EDA that make the sons of a dying general inherit his title. If this approach is applied to all dearmad_her ancs, we would need almost 600 new triggers in EDA

**Deteriorate** · October 14, 2014, 07:34 AM

Yeah I was thinking if they were hereditary it would save player leg work and make it easier for AI than accidentally getting titles. Sounds like a lot more work than it's worth though

**Melooo182** · October 14, 2014, 07:37 AM

look at KER "CRUSADER STATES HEREDITARY TITLES", however i don't think making every settlement title like that would be viable.

There is a "FatherAnc" condition, but apparently has some issues and is not reliable according to what i've read around the web, so i had to make every crusader fief have its own unique "ancillary type" which complicate things for traits like Titled/Untitled.

~~although maybe is possible to not rely on the HasAncType and just use the XXX_heir trait~~
nah you need the unique AncType for allocating the traits accordingly xD