Glad to see the prospect of a successful German still puts fear and anger to the heart of the common Southern European.
Hey Brazil, so we meet again. And this time we arent the only ones missing a key player.
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Glad to see the prospect of a successful German still puts fear and anger to the heart of the common Southern European.
Hey Brazil, so we meet again. And this time we arent the only ones missing a key player.
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The referee should have shown a card a lot earlier in the match to let if flow a lot more.
Still, surely, part of the problem is the number of players that 'simulate' or enhance their reactions to a foul? Players that have been fouled roll around numerous times but somehow usually manage to get up quickly enough and play on.
Thw quotes from the player that kneed Neyma in the back are laughable.
Zuniga insisted: "I never meant to hurt a player. It was a normal move.
"I was playing for the shirt from my country, not with the intent to injure. I was just defending my shirt."
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He should have been expelled right there because he had already committed a yellow card foul on Hulk, but frankly I don't think he deservers a long ban.It was a very unlucky contact IMO, normal yellow card foul that ended badly, I don't think Zuniga really wanted to break Neymar's back.I mean, there are many tackles like that in every game.
So do you think he went straight for Neymar's vertebra?Come on, Zuniga is watching the ball the all time.
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Not true. The only way Zuniga can reach the ball is if Neymar is made of thin air. That right there is either a reckless foul or deliberate aggressive behaviour. It's a straight red. Of course, you need a ref that actually calls it, and that ref should've given Fernandinho a yellow much earlier to prevent escalation of the violence.
Doesn't excuse what Zuniga did. A suitable punishment may be 10% of annual income as a fine to be transferred to say UNICEF, a ban of 4 international games, and between 4 and 6 weeks activities with his club.
And at the same time reduce Suarez's ban, because FIFA is ridiculing itself. The most punished player in a tournament that has featured a broken leg, flying knees to the lower back and to the back of the head, deliberate elbows to the face and studs-first hits in the face/head is a player who bit another through the shirt.
I've heard the refs were under order from FIFA to be lenient with cards. That might explain the Brazil-Colombia match. Hence I wouldn't blame the referee himself too much.
This is football, not high culture. Nor a contest in who can make the most inappropriate and crass remarks. Troll somewhere else.
Agreed. They don't look very much different this time around though. I'd be very much surprised if they got past Holland.
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It's normal in the sense that I have seen similar in every football match.Zuniga goes too strong for the ball and his leg is up because he wants to jump and challenge it in air, can't stop himself, Neymar at the same time steps back and because of this the contact is harsher than usual.Neymar was very unlucky in both the dynamic of the foul and that he suffered the contact in just the right spot to cause that injury.
Anyway, Neymar is incredibly light (bony, little muscle) and goes in each challenge very soft trying to gain a free kick.It's not strange that a player like that might get hurt.
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I have seen BS piled up in my life but never so much.
Zuniga doesn't go for the ball at all. For him to be going for the ball Neymar should not be even present.
Neymar doesn't step back, he stops going forward.
Even if Neymar wasn't present, Zuniga would have missed the ball because his jump would've led him right above it.
Of course, his jump was also very accurate because he was aiming for Neymar's back instead of the ball.
Wow - denial at it's best maybe even delusonal.
We don't know what was in the Columbian player's mind when they made the challenge. It could have been a clumsy challenge or one that they intended to make.
I think Zuniga was one of the Columbian players that seemed to get upset with the challenges in the game - also I recall that he made several bad callenges during the game as well.
What makes all this worse is the amount of simulation from teams in the worlod cup - get the slightest touch and make it seem that you've been hit with a sedge hammer. Just becuase other teams and players act in that way does not make it right to do so yourself. If you see someone break into a store and steal something does it give you the right to do similar? Of course not, at least if you've had a decent upbringing.
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Oh come on, youre talking about teams that didnt even make it past the group stage. Germany is in the top 4 for the 4th time in a row now. Neither Spain nor Italy have even come close to that. Although Spain at least won their one world cup by skill. Italy just got lucky once, then have returned to normal.
Of course, the achievements of Spain's Golden Generation are impressive. Even more so considering that their national team actually is made up entirely of Spaniards. If they can build this up to a continuing legacy or will end up to be what they were before, that remains yet to be seen.
And maybe the 2010 game would have been a different one had Müller been playing.
Yes - unlike Team Germany, it has to be said. And taken to bizarre levels with the Swiss and French teams. Quite a few German journalists had to eat their words about how important it is to have mercenary players from all over the world in your national team when Spain won and the French team dissolved in 2010.
To be 4th, 3rd or 2nd mean nothing on a world cup. Who remember who won the third place ? There is one winner and losers who made or doesn't made a good world cup.
It is not a championship.
You said italy was lucky in 2006 ? you are right. France made a magnific world cup and was the better team of the world cup. But the better teams doesn't always win the world cup. And Italy won. As germany win against France in 2014 even if it was not a good match for both team (germans and frenchs were very boring .... both of them.)
So germany are in the top 4 for the 4th time ? very good, but it will be always better to win a world cup.
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I thought France was pretty good in the recent match. They looked more like a team, after Ribéry, Nasri, Anelka and most of the other scumbags were rooted out.
Depends on how you define French. Certainly not those illoyal, egocentric that sunk their team in 2010.