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    Official Chivalry User Crash To Desktop (CTD) Reports-Thread. Separate ctd reports outside this topic might get NO support.

    Pre-Note: custom (user) changes to the official build/s won't be supported by the ChivTW team.

    First, make sure you have installed/started the game proper as per the instructions .
    Then, if the ctd happens after reloading a saved game, make sure you have activated the script again, right after you are in the saved game.

    Categories/Sections

    A.1: battle mode in campaign, repetitive after reload, game over

    A.2: custom battle mode, repetitive after reload, game over

    A.3: strat-map in campaign, repetitive after reload, game over

    A.4: end-turn in campaign, repetitive after reload, game over

    B.1: battle mode in campaign, non-repetitive after reload, game went further

    B.2: custom battle mode, non-repetitive after reload, game went further

    B.3: strat-map in campaign, non-repetitive after reload, game went further

    B.4: end-turn in campaign, non-repetitive after reload, game went further

    C. Other kind of ctd

    User Report Task:

    a) If you gonna report us a kind of these ctd's, then name the category, and the section as title of the report as above. If you cannot adress a possible ctd to these categories, name it category C as title and describe.

    b) Then add the appropriate description. We can only support ctd's which are accurate described as following. (copy and paste the points below and proceed your entries). In this order:

    - Version: your entry
    - Exe: RTW or BI
    - Saved game: Yes or No
    - Script activated: Yes or No
    - Faction/Campaign: your entry
    - Year/season (when): your entry
    - Map location: your entry (ie. siege-settlement of..., field battle near/at ...)
    - Enemy/armies/units/family characters: your entry
    - Description, what happened actually before and while: your entry
    - Link to screenshot before ctd (optional): your thumbnail link
    - Other: your entry (anything not mentioned above).

    c) Always make sure you have installed Chivalry in the correct order (checked Readme, official hints and perhaps the FAQ if it has a relation), before you proceed a ctd report.

    d) A delivered saved game, short before the ctd is the first choice for us to have a chance to reproduce/check it. Always give them descriptive titles, such as i.e. "0.5-Eng-1085s" (s describes summer season).

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    An addition to note, which is recently edited in the dl-topic, and might affect the campaign as well:

    EDIT
    Different users have posted that it might be a good decision to N O T install on previous versions 0.34/0.44.
    So if you experience problems with using the former Chiv 0.34/0.44 installation for 0.50, then simply delete the whole chivalry folder, and proceed your Chiv setup once more to the then "empty" (= former chiv folder removed) RTW directory.
    And remember to not using the quick-save, see FAQ for more info about those affairs.
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    Similar to SolidSnake 23 have a clean RTW and BI install plus chivalry...loads fine but then CTD after selecting a faction and pressing start campaign button. Have checked install instructions. Have loaded using both shortcuts, still same problem.

    Actually maybe this should be in the Start campaign CTD thread...sorry if wrongly posted
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    Hi!
    I have A.4 problem. I'm playing with Kingdom of Sicily and everything was fine until year 1119. I am buidling siege towers and ladders to take Jerusalem. Then i press "end turn" and it crashes to desktop. Can i fix it somehow? Need help, please..
    Thanks

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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    yes, when we put together the almost final build, there were some changes made, and DaVinci discovered that some factions became "infected" and caused CTDs during the game. We will work to get rid of these asap (after a little break) since we know how annoying they are. Anyways, heres a quote from SCC by DaVinci, relating to them. This may not concern all of you but you might as well have a look:

    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci
    Ok, thanks for the detailed description.

    Did you install over a previous 0.34/0.44 version? If yes, please delete the auto-saves and quick-saves, contained in the save folder, and try anew, to start either a real title save game, or just a new game. As said, the auto-/quick-save CA function is buggy.

    If you installed on a fresh RTW 1.5, and a new campaign start with England will lead as well to this end turn ctd, we have to investigate this then serious ctd-bug as far as it is possible.

    Thanks for reporting and in advance for the report back.

    And another tipp, if you are able to bother with files contained in the chivalry folder, then do the following:

    Open chivalry/data ... text folder ... then the files export_units.txt and export_buildings.txt ... search there for any text errors like this for example:


    {large_stone_wall_roman_desc}
    Large stone walls are substantial with strong towers and gatehouses. EveΈ©±n organised enemies will have a hard time scaling them or breaking into the city and will need time and specialised siege equipment to succeed. \n\nImproving the walls also adds grain stores to extend the time a settlement can resist a siege. The wall is, however, exp³˜‰Ώ―Œ•·Ό“¦Ÿœ‘΄‘Ό΅£¦Œ�‹“‡•ˆ€„£—�Ώ‚΅™«΄²žœ«±Ώ…’½ΉΌ’¦’ž£“Ό ‚¬ΏΌ�“Ž‰£Ά‰�°Š’¨—‹‹žƒ‘Ή£³�±₯–�Œ±ΉŽ Šensive and time consuming to construct. Usually only prestigious or rich towns are worth protecting, they are monuments to the leaders who build them!

    {large_stone_wall_roman_desc_short}
    Large walls are substantial, and even organised enemies will have a hard time scaling them or breaking into the city.

    Delete all those errors, if you have them in the above files. They shouldn't be there, as the uploaded files are complete de-bugged, but in our experience, those can be self-producing errors for some strange reason. A ctd guarantee is, if they are in the command-lines within the clamps.
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    so there is nothing to do exept new campaign?

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    I have an A.4. Playing as HRE, got to winter 1085, pressed end turn and it made it to the Seljuks banner then crashed. Lost some progress but reloaded and it crashed in the same spot. I then started a French campaign and am currently at summer 1088 with no problem. Excellent mod, the German nobility are spectacular.

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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    I want to report I have the same problem as Jan III.

    - Type of CTD: A.4: end-turn in campaign, repetitive after reload, game over

    - Version: 0.50
    - Faction/Campaign: HRE (Holy Roman Empire)
    - Year/season (campaign): 1184, Winter
    - Map location: It is an end-turn thing. The camera swings to Wien first (because of an Hungarian diplomat who is trying to bribe the city) then to Visoko because I had a diplomat there. This last camera swing happend when the "Fatimid" shield appeared.
    - Enemy/armies/units/family characters: I don't know if this is the problem. There is no movement in my territory and I can't see the other factions.
    - Description, what happened actually before and while: Before, I was just building my cities up and I wasn't moving units. While the end turn was happening, almost nothing happend (except for that diplomat). And afterwards, I had a CTD.
    - Link to screenshot before ctd (optional): Don't have a good screenshot.
    - Other: Show_err didn't show anything regarding the CTD.

    I hope this is helpful.

    Savegame can be found here:

    http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=KJQN2PGA
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    Thanks for the detailed descriptions. We will try to fix any ctd's.

    As i already announced (in the dl-topic and in the official announcemnts topic), i actually recommend for the meantime to install Chiv o n l y on a fresh RTW 1.5 and playing with the RTW exe then, although BI should work well, but we the beta-testing was just on RTW 1.5. This means, do not overwrite 0.34/0.44 chiv version with 0.50.
    And avoid quick-saves (and do not re-activate the disabled auto-save), just save with actual titles, whenever you think your progress shall be secured.

    I beg any ctd-reporter to tell us, if you have followed my advice, and how it works then, and if it works different, with or without 0.34/0.44 as base.


    General hint: Well, and recently, i heard about user who run parallel a firewall, anti-virus or are being online and/or running several other software while playing ... i think it is clear what i want to say: The exception for online-action, and other running necessary software, while playing Chiv (or any RTW) is only the MP mode via internet connection.

    We need actually as much as possible different proper reports (see first post, what we must know about occured ctd's), which factions/players get ctd's and which not, to come to an approach for the reasons, and as well it is actually necessary, that every ctd report is as accurate as possible ... and recently i begged also for reports for factions/campaigns that running ctd-free ... see my third post in the 'official announcements' topic.

    If we wanna play some day a ctd-free Chiv, then everybody can help ...

    [Btw.: I have a Sicily campaign runnin' and i'm at 1122 summer without any kind of an issue, very smooth and big fun as sicilian-norman crusader in the Near-East/Holy Land regions with sieges etc., no problems found as yet. I'll play this further the next time, just to find out if i get a ctd. I choosed Sicily partly for fun, as they are one of my favourite factions, and partly due to a ctd-report at 1119 or so, with a Jerusalem siege].
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    Playing as the English, when i capture paris, i get a CTD.

    this happened, i reloaded, and it happened again.

    it happens right after i decide what to do with the population.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColbytheConqueror
    Playing as the English, when i capture paris, i get a CTD.

    this happened, i reloaded, and it happened again.

    it happens right after i decide what to do with the population.

    The same thing reportedly happened with a friend of mine when capturing Edinbourough. He clicked "enslave" and it crashed.

    I haven't gotten around to playing it yet for more than two turns, due to insane business, but if i run into any problems as the Byzantines, i will be sure to let you guys know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MithradatesVI
    The same thing reportedly happened with a friend of mine when capturing Edinbourough. He clicked "enslave" and it crashed.

    I haven't gotten around to playing it yet for more than two turns, due to insane business, but if i run into any problems as the Byzantines, i will be sure to let you guys know.
    Same problem with edinburough (spelling is wrong, I know) here. I'll get a report and a savegame online as soon as I'm able.
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    Default Re: CTD Reports v0.50 (Crash To Desktop)

    This is so weird, I can't fathom how to fit it exactly to your template, but I'll try.

    - Version: v0.50
    - Faction/Campaign: Anything but Kingdom of Sicily
    - Year/season (campaign): pre-start
    - Map location: doesn't even get that far
    - Enemy/armies/units/family characters: uh...won't get that far
    - Description, what happened actually before and while: I try to start a new game as France, or England, or HRE or the Fatimids or the Byzantines...you get the point. I click on the arrow to start, and the game goes to load, then crashes.
    - Link to screenshot before ctd (optional): What would I show you? The load screen that is up for half a second and then goes CTD?
    - Other: I can play the game, but only as Sicily.

    I love the Norman Kingdom in the Sun, but there are a few other factions I'd like to check out. Can someone please tell me wtf is going on? This is just bizarre, b/c I installed properly on a clean RTW version 1.5. Do I have a corrupt set of files or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schminkypinky
    Similar to SolidSnake 23 have a clean RTW and BI install plus chivalry...loads fine but then CTD after selecting a faction and pressing start campaign button. Have checked install instructions. Have loaded using both shortcuts, still same problem.
    Same problem, and it also applies to custom battle after army selection when the game should go into loading screen for the battle. My comp is well above specs, clean 1.5 RTW install without BI, in original folder with both shortcuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringeck
    Same problem, and it also applies to custom battle after army selection when the game should go into loading screen for the battle. My comp is well above specs, clean 1.5 RTW install without BI, in original folder with both shortcuts.
    Those are pretty strange ctd-reports. We cannot reproduce them, as well it is not a common bug or something like that, as you can see that x user can start and play proper campaigns as supposed. I can only recommend, delete the chivalry folder, and re-install, formerly check once more out if your RTW 1.5 works 100% as it should, check out for example if you can see the patch "1.5" entry in the options menu, right top corner of the screen.

    However, your install result must be: directory RTW 1.5 folder/chivalry folder or just in default data structure:
    Rome - Total War/chivalry, and then you have only to check out your shortcut path, as in the instructions/readme's/FAQ explained, and change eventually, depending on your personal directory structure ... then everything must load and start proper ...
    Eventually check out your dl-file, it must have as compressed zip-file exactly 239,86 MB on your desktop, if it is not, then you might have had ie. a corrupted dl.
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    Well, three separate people have posted it so far so it is obviously a problem for more than one. I've reinstalled the entire package (total delete of RTW, reinstall, then CTW) two times for the 0.5, and I had the same problem with the 0.44 build. All is as the FAQ recommends. I've run it with functioning 1.5 without and with BI, with two separate CTW installs from two separate download servers, right zise both times. The last dl works on my friend's laptop, so I'm guessing it, at least, is not corrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringeck
    Well, three separate people have posted it so far so it is obviously a problem for more than one. I've reinstalled the entire package (total delete of RTW, reinstall, then CTW) two times for the 0.5, and I had the same problem with the 0.44 build. All is as the FAQ recommends. I've run it with functioning 1.5 without and with BI, with two separate CTW installs from two separate download servers, right zise both times. The last dl works on my friend's laptop, so I'm guessing it, at least, is not corrupt.
    Well, sorry mate, but what do you actually expect in this case from us? As we cannot proceed the installation for you ...

    As you can see, chivalry runs proper as intended by the majority, otherwise the topic "install/start issues" would be full with thousands of those kind of reports from every installer ... in both of our forums. And there is actually a proper/secure way to install Chiv, and the one who haven chosen that, have a working Chiv.

    Once more

    P.S. Did you install fresh, just not on 0.34/0.44, as i stated already in different locations, to install on 0.34./0.44 might mess up something in the installation ... edit: oh, i see, you have.

    EDIT: The way of the released installation was also a part of the very long phase of beta testing, and also with some not that very deep experienced RTW mod-users.
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    As I've stated, I've done everything ever recommended by you guys to make it work. Fresh, on top of a 1.5 patch, without BI, in the original directory (plus the chivalry dir, of course) and . I don't know why your mod has this CTD for a few people. It is really odd, since it isn't a install issue - the install works fine, as does set-ups for custom battles and campaign start, it is when you should go to the loading screen that the entire mod shorts out. This close to M2TR and the mods following it, it's not that much of a big deal for me, but I assumed you wanted to know that the problem wasn't exclusive to the two guys above...it is also double strange for me - never had any major mod problems before until the .44 trouble I had with CTW, upon which I waited for 0.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringeck
    As I've stated, I've done everything ever recommended by you guys to make it work. Fresh, on top of a 1.5 patch, without BI, in the original directory (plus the chivalry dir, of course) and . I don't know why your mod has this CTD for a few people. It is really odd, since it isn't a install issue - the install works fine, as does set-ups for custom battles and campaign start, it is when you should go to the loading screen that the entire mod shorts out. This close to M2TR and the mods following it, it's not that much of a big deal for me, but I assumed you wanted to know that the problem wasn't exclusive to the two guys above...it is also double strange for me - never had any major mod problems before until the .44 trouble I had with CTW, upon which I waited for 0.5.

    [edit. Oops, I answered before you edited]
    If your directory structure is 100% correct, and your shortcut path as well, then only screenshots of those both (directory and shortcut properties) can help further to atually findout if it is the case, that you have a correct installation provide us with them, and we will see what we can do, if there is something to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci
    If your directory structure is 100% correct, and your shortcut path as well, then only screenshots of those both (directory and shortcut properties) can help further to atually findout if it is the case, that you have a correct installation provide us with them, and we will see what we can do, if there is something to help.
    Ok, I'll snap a few thursday, but I don't think I can post them until tuesday, weekend holiday coming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringeck
    Ok, I'll snap a few thursday, but I don't think I can post them until tuesday, weekend holiday coming up.
    Well, please put them into the "Install/Start Issue" topic, as this topic here is planned for the mentioned ctd-categories described in the first post.
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    Release 04.2013: Rise of the Samurai Realism+
    Re-upload 08.2013: Chivalry Total War
    Re-released 10.2013: Shogun2 Realism+
    More Democracy: Campact

    Support: Greenpeace
    Visit: LIVING ...WITH... WAR
    Dissipate: Bankster Empires
    "1984": Big Brother Is Watching You
    What's really more disappointing than dis-information and non-education?
    A certain degree of intentional ignorance paired with obvious stupidy /DV
    In wars, on the battlefield or wherever, the true winners are the flies.

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