How many factions were there in MTW?

**olly** · October 12, 2006, 06:10 AM

Just curious how many factions MTW had to see if it is more or less then MTW2?

I know STW only had 7 plus rebels but didn't really play MTW as by the time I upgraded my computer RTW came out.

Cheers

**Lusted** · October 12, 2006, 06:13 AM

*tries to remember*

English
Almohads
Byzantines
Sicilly
Papacy
French
HRE
Denmark
Aragon
Spain
Italian Cities
Hungary
Poland
Russia(called Novgorod in Early Period)
Egypt
Turks
Golden Horde(emerged at 1220(?))
Switzerland(in late period only)

**olly** · October 12, 2006, 06:24 AM

Oh cool, plus rebels that is 19 then.

For some reason I thought it was more then MTW2 but happy it wasn't.

**Nutsack** · October 12, 2006, 06:31 AM

I am confused here, if there is only 19 faction slots. What will the 2 remaining be used for? Are they wasted?

Because i'd love to see some more factions (Serbia, Lithuania etc.)

**olly** · October 12, 2006, 07:02 AM

No, this is about the original MTW game not the new and improved MTW2 that is coming out this year.

**Kaidonni** · October 12, 2006, 09:43 AM

The Golden Horde emerge in 1230. There is another faction - Burgundy. They come out either High or Late era, as do the Swiss (if you're playing from Early or High at the beginning). If you start Late, the Swiss are already present.

**Boudicca** · October 12, 2006, 11:00 AM

However...wasn't it that MTW was highly moddable. I am almost certain that BKB and MTW-XL had a larger amount of factions...I may be at error but I think I remember it that way...

**Atterdag** · October 12, 2006, 03:07 PM

Yes Xl (can't say anything for BKB haven't played his version) added lots of new factions.
Genoa, Venize, Serbia, Bulgaria, Armenia and Bohemia (I think).

**wopup2** · October 13, 2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lusted

*tries to remember*

English
Almohads
Byzantines
Sicilly
Papacy
French
HRE
Denmark
Aragon
Spain
Italian Cities
Hungary
Poland
Russia(called Novgorod in Early Period)
Egypt
Turks
Golden Horde(emerged at 1220(?))
Switzerland(in late period only)

In addition:
Burgundians on rare occasions.

**DarkKnight** · October 13, 2006, 03:51 PM

Also remember that not all of those were playable without modding the startpos files.

**Lusted** · October 14, 2006, 04:59 AM

I knew the Burgundians were in MTW, but i only ever got them if i modded the game.

**Korinthos Hoplites** · October 14, 2006, 09:53 AM

The factions are:

Italians
Germans
Egyptians
Almohads
Turks
French
English
Spanish
Byzantines
Polish
Danes
Russians

And that's it...

**the_mango55** · October 14, 2006, 03:56 PM

The factions were more mod friendly in MTW, some mods like BKB and XL had like 30 factions.

However the graphics were a pain to mod, since instead of 3d units they used sprires. So instead of one model and one skin, you had to draw like 40 perfect frames if you wanted a new unit graphic.

**DarkKnight** · October 14, 2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Corinthian Hoplite

The factions are:

Italians
Germans
Egyptians
Almohads
Turks
French
English
Spanish
Byzantines
Polish
Danes
Russians

And that's it...

Those are the vanilla playable factions. Anyone with half a brain could change the word minor into major in the startpos files to make all of the other factions playable.