The Helios: Political Special Edition.

[Atheist Peace]

OH NOES!

He was meant to be running the site and making decisions on it, and he was!!!

But he isn't the only staff member. Why do you think we have a staff forum? So the staff can discuss and multilaterally make decisions.

[The White Knight]

"my opinion is that everyone takes the roleplaying WAY TO SERIOUSLY and everyone on TWC staff down to Civ should be institutionalized. hehe. I'm sorry, but it's all so silly to me. Maybe it's because i have 2 amazing boys and a loving wife....this stuff is just so trivial. So, my position? Not getting involved."

This is a forum. Some of you seem to be fantasizing some form of real relevence to claims of POWER and AUTHORITY from all this stuff.

Again, life is so much more than a forum and some petty 'role playing' in a Govt.

Amen. On most forums it's just 'Admin' and a couple of moderators, there's no need to have this sophisticated hierarchy, nor is there a need for people who take the forum to seriously.

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Amen. On most forums it's just 'Admin' and a couple of moderators, there's no need to have this sophisticated hierarchy, nor is there a need for people who take the forum to seriously.

Well the hierarchy is part of the fun here, and sets this place apart from most other forums. The trouble starts, as you stated, when people take it too seriously.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

You aren't quite impartial are ya? You always put your FULL support for some cause or another

I don't claim to be. From what I read, Simetrical is no more guilty than anyone else involved. I'm putting my support behind him because I beleive it's the right thing for me to do, and that trumps any other thoughts I might have.

[King Henry V]

See, we're already going Byzantine! I wonder who is going to be publicly blinded? Or is anyone going to flee to a monastery? Or perhaps one of the factions is going to enlist the help of an invading horde to help them capture the Curia?
Pass the popcorn!
All I can say is. Is this really worth it? I mean all this intrigue and conspiracy and political and backstabbing, is it worth it just for a bit of imaginary power? It's not as though it's actually going to affect your personal lives.

[Omnipotent-Q]

But he isn't the only staff member. Why do you think we have a staff forum? So the staff can discuss and multilaterally make decisions.

Whatever.

[Simetrical]

Some decisions have to be made alone when running a site, consulting takes time and in some cases isn't even necessary. It's the way of things. If you ask why a decision is necessary, you're likely to get reasoning for it. If you don't agree and don't like how things are done consistently, then simply leave.

Or else see if the actual owners of the site agree with the way I see things. Which is all I had hoped to do.

What did you aim to solve by all this? The only thing you've managed, along with Mr LV, is to split the staff, make a mockery of the current staff and once again expose the lack of leadership on this site (As they perfectly happily let a mass debate go on, which could be done over staff or MSN or some other chat program).

I aimed to "solve" what I saw as Archer's less-than-ideal decision-making, which I don't think is the best possible for the site. I tried to do this quietly and without fuss, and when I saw that I didn't have a great deal of support among my fellow staff, I quietly let it die. Only to have Fabolous break confidence and leak to LV, who then gave the info to GrimSta, who then posted it here drunk with no regard for what his doing so would accomplish. Rather like the RTR logs fiasco, actually: someone posts something whose posting accomplishes nothing but creating anger, resentment, and division.

Admittedly, it is quite hilarious.

That's true.

[imb39]

Given what was said, Sim had no option but respond in the way he did. Quite frankly the whole thing is a mess and it should have all been dealt with privately. This is in no way Sim's fault, though.

[Fabolous]

I aimed to "solve" what I saw as Archer's less-than-ideal decision-making, which I don't think is the best possible for the site. I tried to do this quietly and without fuss, and when I saw that I didn't have a great deal of support among my fellow staff, I quietly let it die. Only to have Fabolous break confidence and leak to LV, who then gave the info to GrimSta, who then posted it here drunk with no regard for what his doing so would accomplish. Rather like the RTR logs fiasco, actually: someone posts something whose posting accomplishes nothing but creating anger, resentment, and division.

Sim, don't talk about what you don't know. I didn't tell LV, I only didn't say you didn't try to stage a coup when LV came to me after he already knew. I did then work with LV, Kscott, and Archer on fixing the problem, but other things came up and that issue was temp put away.

[Omnipotent-Q]

I aimed to "solve" what I saw as Archer's less-than-ideal decision-making, which I don't think is the best possible for the site. I tried to do this quietly and without fuss, and when I saw that I didn't have a great deal of support among my fellow staff, I quietly let it die. Only to have Fabolous break confidence and leak to LV, who then gave the info to GrimSta, who then posted it here drunk with no regard for what his doing so would accomplish. Rather like the RTR logs fiasco, actually: someone posts something whose posting accomplishes nothing but creating anger, resentment, and division.

I see it seems you've mostly done the right thing.

BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE YOU EATING THAT BABY!

[Libertine]

:laughing:

[Seleukos]

Time to close. There is to be an internal investigation upon Archer's return and this thread has run it's course.

[Libertine]

Can we leave it pinned though? I think that its an excellant reminder of what goes on back doors.

[Seleukos]

Yes, that is fine.

[Simetrical]

Sim, don't talk about what you don't know. I didn't tell LV, I only didn't say you didn't try to stage a coup when LV came to me after he already knew.

I would like to apologize for accusing you without sufficient evidence. I was only thinking of the exact wording of the PM LV posted, which I know came from you, because you're the only one who received that exact wording. I know what I'm talking about on that count. I guess I just thoughtlessly assumed the rest.

If you didn't tell LV about it to start with, though, I'll have to review my logs to figure out who it actually was. Hmm . . .