European faction research thread

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Bronze age Greece

Bronze armor, Argolis, 14th century BC
Mycenian warriors, 12th century BC

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Helmets ! Part 1

Bronze age helmet found in Saône, France, around 1000 BC
Bronze age helmet found in Zealand, 11th-10th century BC
Bronze age helmet found in Lorraine, France, Late bronze age
Bronze age helmet and belt, France
Bronze age helmets, France
Bronze age helmet, France

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Armors !

Bronze age armor found it France, 11th-8th century BC
Bronze age armor found in France, late bronze age

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

People and stuffs

Warrior from Danmark, 16th century BC
Warrior from Cyprus, 12-11th century BC
Trindhoj Man, Denmark
Denmark woman clothes, early bronze age
Nuragic tribal chief
Nuragic archer

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Late bronze age swoed, Denmark
Ceremonial sword and battle axes, Hungary
Bronze age sword, Germany
Reconstitution of battle axe
Hunting dagger, Mycenae, 16th century BC
Rhodanian dagger, France ?
Golden hilt from Guadalajara, El Argar culture, Iberian peninsula, late 19 century BC
Minoan axe, 16th century BC
Sword, Slovakia, 1250-850 BC
Late bronze age sword, France

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Big hat or crockery, Austria and France, 1500-1250 BC
Pike from Irland
Axe from Irland
Axe from great britain
Axe from Britanny, France
Swords from Europe, late bronze age
Sword from France, 1000-750 BC
Axe from Yorkshire

[TheDeaconBosco]

Great finds Balrog.

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Those are axes found in Western France, during the early bronze age. I struggle to find sources about Western France, like western helmets or armors. It's a lot easier for eastern France, as you can see all the Crested helmets up here. Maybe they didn't produce armors or helmets, I don't know. But it's sure that they used axes like this ( "Medoc" style )


The heeled( or stubbed ) axe found in western france :


And a representation of how it was done

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Well, Those are Helmets and some legs armors found in central France, dated from the late bronze age. I see in the map the team created that the location where those were found are in " Western France bronze age " so I guess you could use them for the Western France faction, I don't know.



I will try to find books about other countries in the uni's library. I think there's one about the sea people, I will see this Tuesday.

[Türkenlouis]

We already plan to include a other Kammhelm version

so the German and

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and the france version

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also the german cap helmet is planned.



italian cap helmet




really future things:

western Germany , France helmet


france helmet


denmark helmet

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

Wonderful !

[foot soldier]

I am posting as i am assuming that the mod creaters will be interested for their historic collection .
This is the biggest city,classified as Metropole,of the Lusitani people . Neolithic era ,for now.

[Dontfearme22]

I am posting as i am assuming that the mod creaters will be interested for their historic collection .
This is the biggest city,classified as Metropole,of the Lusitani people . Neolithic era ,for now.

Interesting, but it seems way too early for our timeperiod.

[foot soldier]

Interesting, but it seems way too early for our timeperiod.

Ah Neolithic era goes from 10,000 to 3,000 ,Bronze Age goes from 3,300 to 1200 all a.c. .So there is a period of 300 to 500 years that both ages "lived" togther. So it is not so earlier . Only if there was evidences of artefacts of 10,000 years ,but untill now there is not . On the region yes there is . Perhaps in some months or years this Metrópole can be classified before or earlier Neolithic but for now it is not its late Neolithic.
So i think it is a good oportunity ,for the mods and history lovers , to know that the Lusitanos were advanced for their time period.

I can supply more information about the aspect of the cities and castles and houses from late Bronze age from here if there is a need.

[Dontfearme22]

Ah Neolithic era goes from 10,000 to 3,000 ,Bronze Age goes from 3,300 to 1200 all a.c. .So there is a period of 300 to 500 years that both ages "lived" togther. So it is not so earlier . Only if there was evidences of artefacts of 10,000 years ,but untill now there is not . On the region yes there is . Perhaps in some months or years this Metrópole can be classified before or earlier Neolithic but for now it is not its late Neolithic.
So i think it is a good oportunity ,for the mods and history lovers , to know that the Lusitanos were advanced for their time period.

I can supply more information about the aspect of the cities and castles and houses from late Bronze age from here if there is a need.

Continuity from Neolithic can be really high into the Bronze Age, there can also be radical sweeping changes even between Middle and Late Bronze Age.

Can you provide some good articles on Perdigoes so I could really check out if its relevant or not? I am not having much luck finding good sources myself.

Also, be pretty wary directly linking Neolithic cultures with Iron Age cultures, it can get pretty shaky regardless of circumstance.

[foot soldier]

Continuity from Neolithic can be really high into the Bronze Age, there can also be radical sweeping changes even between Middle and Late Bronze Age.

Can you provide some good articles on Perdigoes so I could really check out if its relevant or not? I am not having much luck finding good sources myself.

Also, be pretty wary directly linking Neolithic cultures with Iron Age cultures, it can get pretty shaky regardless of circumstance.

What are you looking for specifically ?
The armors and weaponry ? And or the aspect of the castles ?

Also i think i can help you with other civilizations , i have visited more of 50 museus around Europe and i got a collection of around 6,000 photos . But my expertise is Portugal ,where i have been in hundreds of Lusitani fortified villages etc .from where i am from.

[Dontfearme22]

What are you looking for specifically ?
The armors and weaponry ? And or the aspect of the castles ?

Also i think i can help you with other civilizations , i have visited more of 50 museus around Europe and i got a collection of around 6,000 photos . But my expertise is Portugal ,where i have been in hundreds of Lusitani fortified villages etc .from where i am from.

Well, the history of the site, and how it fits chronologically, as well as succeeding cultures in the area. I want to see if its relevant at all

On a separate note, if you have any good bronze age photos, compile them with locations and their timeperiod and they would be a hugely helpful resource to us.

[Ciruelo]

Bronze peoples in Iberian Peninsula

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Cogotas I

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Bent Fibula


Weapons



Resource

Spear and archer equipment (3 is arm protection)

El Argar

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Sword


Representation of Argarian settlement and people from min 4:30 to 7:40

https://youtu.be/AAW7d1kFeYA?t=4m31s

La Bastida and La Almoloya Fortified settlements Conference 2200AC: Video (in Spanish). Here I put some screenshots from the video:

Use of helmets and horses by dominant class (nobles). Mid class used their tools as weapons (hunting bows, axes, hammers...) when it was required. (min 9:30 in the video)


Deffensive walls and description of sieges. (from min 12:00 to 13:40



Haldberd warrior (earlier than sword warrior)


More information here

Atalaia

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Stele of Logrosán, Extremadura, depicting a warrior with his weapons, V-notch Herzsprungshield and chariot



Stele

Montelavar (Galicia)

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Gold Helmet


Axes


Gold Treassure

[Jack85]

http://shardana51.altervista.org/Shardana.htm



The ancient faction in sardinia was called Shardana in italian and Sherden in english.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shardana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherden

tribes in sardinia -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nuragic_tribes

1231: Meneptah must fight a war vs libici kings supported from some tribes knows as Sea peoples: Akawasa (Achei), Thursha (Etruschi), Shekelesh (Siculi), Wasasha (Corsi?) and Shardana. The last one provide provisioning and troop transport by sea.

[Jack85]

This guy wrote and published a lot of books about people of the sea, he won a couple of awards like Academy Award Arborense "Historical Research".
this is his website http://www.shardana.org/la%20storia.htm
and this is one of his books. http://www.amazon.it/Shardana-i-popo.../dp/B008HTNUSU