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    In view of recent discussion involving this site, I have been developing some ideas for improvement of this site.

    Whether or not the CdeC is abolished or not, this idea will not be affected. An applicant for citizenship will still be required to make a valuable contribution to the site regardless of the process use to determine that.

    In order to increase site activity and to increase the visibility of individual accomplishments, I make the following suggestions.

    There are many ways a person can contribute to the site. Some concentrate in one area only, while others contribute in a variety of different ways. Regardless of the process, all that is required for citizenship is for the member to make a valuable contribution. This should require no expertise in any particular area of the site. Every applicant awarded citizenship is given a citizens badge and the entitlement that is associated with it.

    However, many members continue to contribute to the site. For citizens who make a substantial contribution, an additional recognition can be acquired. Currently, we have Artifex and Civitate. Obviously additional titles would have to be made to suit the various areas of contribution not specifically recognized. This will not be a badge, but a title under the badge.


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    The awarding of recognition will be done by a panel of modders elected by fellow modders themselves. Each “branch” would determine the number, qualification and manner in which “panel member will serve.

    Each branch will also determine nomination process and the minimal requirement to be considered for the special recognition.

    I would also include a second level of recognition called; Master Artifex (other branches may choose different but similar titles).


    Master Artifex * Curator * Content Staff

    What follows is the current awards


    ADDENDUM (From Post #8)
    Technically, what I am proposing isn't anything new. Guilds have certainly been discuss. In the interest of generating greater interest in the site is I've taken the current system and introduce the "guild idea" in an less intrusive but in a more dynamic concept. If people seek recognition they can do it in a variety of ways. You can, in theory, be considered a "master" in many different areas of the site. By incorporating the the members of the different areas it is hoped that this will generate greater interest and participation in the forum to make a more well- rounded community.

    I will answer the questions as I envision the implementation to go, but I know a proposal like this can take on a life of its own. The point of posting here is to facilitate this life.
    To your questions;
    Would there be any differences between the levels of citizenship or is it just aesthetics (like the current award system)?
    To my knowledge the current award system is not aesthetics. The Opifex is an award for real contribution to the site and it is far from aesthetic appeal. To answer your question, Yes and no.
    No, it is not aesthetics. The Artifex (and Master Artifex) designation are indication of real contribution to the site. The difference is you will be judged by your peers and not the "at large" community for your contribution. I mentioned in the OP that each branch can create a panel to vote on Artifex candidates, however it can also be done by a vote of all modders (Artifex). Regardless of the "extra" distinction all citizens are equal. The differentiation would only matter within each area of the site.

    What would happen to current citizens if this passes?

    This is an excellent question and something that would have to be worked out. The easy part would be to disperse people in within the various areas. My best guest that Civitates and Artifex are easily discernible as there application often indicate one or the other. I would imagine citizens who contribute in content would also be easily discernible. My best guess would to have a "Grandfather Clause" where current citizens can choose where they best fit (in one area only*) then they can apply to part of another area if they feel equally qualified. As far as "Master" recognition I imagine that should be left to each area to decide who is a master who isn't.
    * I supposed this can be abused. A citizen can choose one area that they are weakest in then apply in an area they are strongest in. However, this would be grounds for conduct unbecoming a citizen. One hopes severe criticism would prevent such abuses from taken place!

    What happens to the current awards (the ones mentioned by jim)?

    Nothing! This being said- those awards should remain an "at large" awarding. By that stage, a contributor, regardless of area, should be easily appreciated by all in the community.

    Maybe one of you fine gentlemen could propose this in the Curia?

    I fear the proposal is too immature for such a step. There is a number of issues that probably should be resolve as your questions suggest before taking such a a step. Excuse my personal bias, but I feel out of all of the current proposal to boost activity, this proposal has the most promise to do so.
    Last edited by PikeStance; March 01, 2014 at 03:39 AM. Reason: Added aesthetics/ addendum

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeStance View Post
    However, many members continue to contribute to the site. For citizens who make a substantial contribution, an additional recognition can be acquired. Currently, we have Artifex and Civitate. Obviously additional titles would have to be made to suit the various areas of contribution not specifically recognized. This will not be a badge, but a title under the badge.
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    Default Re: Multi- level Recognition Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by jimkatalanos View Post
    Opifex, Novus, Phalera and Divus are not enough?
    No, I am sure they really should be more than enough. However, my idea is to increase more activity by getting the different parts of site engage in what they find interesting. As a teacher, I always try to find something that is relevant for the student. It is my hope this will help do that for this site.

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    I would support this, the last time I tried to reduce the citizen badges to 1, which failed I might add, one of my reasons was that we could then more easily add additional "fields" of citizenship, such as RPG citizens, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    I would support this, the last time I tried to reduce the citizen badges to 1, which failed I might add, one of my reasons was that we could then more easily add additional "fields" of citizenship, such as RPG citizens, etc, etc.
    Yes i like the sound of this as well. Is it possible though technically? I mean currently we got one usergroup that gets to display only one badge, any additional usergroups that aren't primary are displayed as text underneath it. So would that mean that then you would have a single primary badge usergroup and then multiple text usergroups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishan View Post
    Yes i like the sound of this as well. Is it possible though technically? I mean currently we got one usergroup that gets to display only one badge, any additional usergroups that aren't primary are displayed as text underneath it. So would that mean that then you would have a single primary badge usergroup and then multiple text usergroups?
    Certainly possible, I'd likely do it using custom user profile fields, similar to the ones for icq, skype, steam, etc.
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    Seems reasonable. Three questions: Would there be any differences between the levels of citizenship or is it just aesthetics (like the current award system)? What would happen to current citizens if this passes? What happens to the current awards (the ones mentioned by jim)?


    Maybe one of you fine gentlemen could propose this in the Curia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Adrian View Post
    Seems reasonable. Three questions: Would there be any differences between the levels of citizenship or is it just aesthetics (like the current award system)? What would happen to current citizens if this passes? What happens to the current awards (the ones mentioned by jim)?


    Maybe one of you fine gentlemen could propose this in the Curia?
    Technically, what I am proposing isn't anything new. Guilds have certainly been discuss. In the interest of generating greater interest in the site is I've taken the current system and introduce the "guild idea" in an less intrusive but in a more dynamic concept. If people seek recognition they can do it in a variety of ways. You can, in theory, be considered a "master" in many different areas of the site. By incorporating the the members of the different areas it is hoped that this will generate greater interest and participation in the forum to make a more well- rounded community.

    I will answer the questions as I envision the implementation to go, but I know a proposal like this can take on a life of its own. The point of posting here is to facilitate this life.
    To your questions;
    Would there be any differences between the levels of citizenship or is it just aesthetics (like the current award system)?
    To my knowledge the current award system is not aesthetics. The Opifex is an award for real contribution to the site and it is far from aesthetic appeal. To answer your question, Yes and no.
    No, it is not aesthetics. The Artifex (and Master Artifex) designation are indication of real contribution to the site. The difference is you will be judged by your peers and not the "at large" community for your contribution. I mentioned in the OP that each branch can create a panel to vote on Artifex candidates, however it can also be done by a vote of all modders (Artifex). Regardless of the "extra" distinction all citizens are equal. The differentiation would only matter within each area of the site.

    What would happen to current citizens if this passes?

    This is an excellent question and something that would have to be worked out. The easy part would be to disperse people in within the various areas. My best guest that Civitates and Artifex are easily discernible as there application often indicate one or the other. I would imagine citizens who contribute in content would also be easily discernible. My best guess would to have a "Grandfather Clause" where current citizens can choose where they best fit (in one area only*) then they can apply to part of another area if they feel equally qualified. As far as "Master" recognition I imagine that should be left to each area to decide who is a master who isn't.
    * I supposed this can be abused. A citizen can choose one area that they are weakest in then apply in an area they are strongest in. However, this would be grounds for conduct unbecoming a citizen. One hopes severe criticism would prevent such abuses from taken place!

    What happens to the current awards (the ones mentioned by jim)?

    Nothing! This being said- those awards should remain an "at large" awarding. By that stage, a contributor, regardless of area, should be easily appreciated by all in the community.

    Maybe one of you fine gentlemen could propose this in the Curia?

    I fear the proposal is too immature for such a step. There is a number of issues that probably should be resolve as your questions suggest before taking such a a step. Excuse my personal bias, but I feel out of all of the current proposal to boost activity, this proposal has the most promise to do so.
    Last edited by PikeStance; March 01, 2014 at 02:26 AM.

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    So correct me if I'm wrong. There would be a 'Master Civitate" and a regular 'Civitate'. So current Civitates would have to be promoted to 'Master'? What would be the mechanism to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenum View Post
    So correct me if I'm wrong. There would be a 'Master Civitate" and a regular 'Civitate'. So current Civitates would have to be promoted to 'Master'? What would be the mechanism to do that?

    From Post #8 What would happen to current citizens if this passes?
    This is an excellent question and something that would have to be worked out. The easy part would be to disperse people in within the various areas. My best guest that Civitates and Artifex are easily discernible as there application often indicate one or the other. I would imagine citizens who contribute in content would also be easily discernible. My best guess would to have a "Grandfather Clause" where current citizens can choose where they best fit (in one area only*) then they can apply to part of another area if they feel equally qualified. As far as "Master" recognition I imagine that should be left to each area to decide who is a master who isn't.
    * I supposed this can be abused. A citizen can choose one area that they are weakest in then apply in an area they are strongest in. However, this would be grounds for conduct unbecoming a citizen. One hopes severe criticism would prevent such abuses from taken place!


    Both the criterion and mechanism is area specific. An area can also decide not to have a "master" recognition. It may decide to give an award instead. I guess it will rest on whether or not there is a enough of a distinction to warrant another "level" of recognition. I don't think there needs to be consistency among the areas.

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