Quotes for the loading menu

[maurel]

Hi guys, i created this topic to help the eb2team:


Remember thoses quotes in the loading menu right ? lets give sugestions and search for quotes of that time period to put here.
The bible old testment is a good place to start a search. go go gogo

[fryslan]

wololo

[naq]

Just put some Roman or Laconic one-liners into it. Like "festina lente" or "this is Sparta!".

[maurel]

“Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. - Jesus : Matthew 26:52

(i known it is the new testment...but still)

And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mathew 24:6-7

“When you go out to war against your enemies, and see horses and chariots and an army larger than your own, you shall not be afraid of them, for the Lord your God is with you..." Deuteronomy 20

What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? James 4.1

[maurel]

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.
Sun Tzu
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Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu
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"Salus populi suprema est lex" (The good of the people is the chief law)
"Summum bonum" (The highest good)
"Let war yield to peace, laurels to paeans."
"Laws are silent in time of war."
"Never less idle than when wholly idle, nor less alone than when wholly alone."
"Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit." (He departed, he withdrew, he strode off, he broke forth.)
"Civis Romanus sum" (I am a Roman citizen)
"Quod di omen avertant" (May the gods avert this omen)
"Nervos belli, pecuniam infinitam" (The sinews of war, unlimited money)
"Cui bono?" (To whose profit?)
"Cum dignitate otium" (Leisure with honor)
"I would rather be wrong, by god, with Plato ... Than be correct with those men."
"O happy Rome, born when I was consul!"

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"Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres." (Gaul as a whole is divided into three parts.)

"Caesar's wife must be above suspicion."

(Caesar) had rather be: "First in a village than second at Rome."

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Lucretius c.94 - 55 BC

"So much wrong could religion induce."
"Nothing can be created out of nothing."
"And in a short while the generations of living creatures are changed and like runners relay the torch of life."
"Lovely it is, when the winds are churning up the waves on the great sea, to gaze out from the land on the great efforts of someone else."

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Catullus c.84 - 54 BC

"Atque in perpetuum, frater, ave atque vale."
(And so, my brother, hail, and farewell evermore!)
"Odi et amo: auare id faciam, fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior."
(I hate and I love: why I do so you may well ask. I do not know, but I feel it happen and am in agony.)

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Horace 65 - 8 BC

From Satires:

"There is moderation in everything."

From Ars Poetica:

"Scholars dispute, and the case is still before the courts."
"I strive to be brief, and I become obscure."
"Tiresome, complaining, a praiser of past times."
"A poem is like a painting."

From Epistles:

"If possible honestly, if not. Somehow, make money."
"We are just statistics, born to consume resources."
"Not bound to swear allegiance to any master, wherever the wind takes me I travel as a visitor."
"To have begun is half the job: be bold and be sensible."
"Anger is a short madness."
"You may drive out nature with a pitchfork, yet she'll be constantly running back."
"And once sent out, a word takes wing beyond recall."
"For it is your business, when the wall next door catches fire."
"Skilled or unskilled, we all scribble poems."

From Odes:

"Never despair."
"While we're talking, envious time is fleeing: seize the day, put no trust in the future."
"Ah me, Postumus. Postumus, the fleeting years are slipping by."
"Lovely and honorable it is to die for one's country."
"Mix a little foolishness with your prudence: it's good to be silly at the right moment."

[maurel]

Pericles c.495 - 429 BC

"Famous men have the whole earth as their memorial."

[maurel]

I found some of the quotes in latim

"Deos fortioribus adesse." - Meaning "The gods are on the side of the stronger", translate it to mean you should make your own fortune.
"Pecunia non olet" - "Money has no smell", implying that regardless of how you get money, it all spends the same.
"Festina lente" - "Make haste slowly". Simply put, make sure to plan even when you need to act quickly.
"Una salus victis nullam sperare salutem." - "The one well being of the defeated is to not hope for well being." By Virgil, this particular proverb means if your defeated, hope you don't live long.
"Caelum, non animum, mutant, qui trans mare currunt." - By Horace. It translates as "Those who run off to sea change their climate but not their mind." Basically your troubles will follow you.
"Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis." - "It is best to endure what you cannot change.", by Seneca. If you cannot change something, don't try to, concentrate on what you can change.
"Do ut des" - a motto of prechristian Roman religion, meaning "I give so that you might give". Roman religion at the time was a give and take kind of thing with ones gods, in many ways.
"Si vis pacem, para bellum." This one is a little after the Roman Republic, but still good stuff, from Flavius Vegetius Renatus. It means "If you wish for peace, prepare for war."
"Carpe Deim" - Obviously quite familiar, Horace said this, meaning "seize the day", imploring that when the time is right, take action.
"Quod scripsi, scripsi." - "What I have written, I have written." By Pilate, I could not find a definitive translation for this, but I personally believe it means "What's done is done."
"Murum aries attigit" - "The ram has touched the wall." Romans had the policy that held that once an assault has begun, accept no mercy or quarter. The ram touching the wall referred to the battering ram in an assault. Take it to mean "Grant no mercy!"
"Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est" - By Seneca (he was a big provider of quotes and proverbs), it means "a sword is never a killer, it is a tool in a killer's hand". Simply enough, it is the Roman version of "people kill people, not gun's kill people".
"Malum consilium quod mutari non potest" This is another quote which I have taken from after Rome's republic, though very good. It means "It is a bad plan that can't be changed".
"Flamma fumo est proxima." - "Where there is smoke, there is fire". or literally, "Flame follows smoke".
"Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.". Virgil wrote this, meaning "Whatever it is, I fear Greeks, even bearing gifts." Really this is more of a quote, it has changed in time to "beware strangers bearing gifts".
"Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur." - "Many fear their reputation, few their conscience" By Pliny, it basically says people often just care about appearances.


"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" - by Horace, meaning "It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for ones country".
"Veni, vidi, vici." - "I came, I saw, I conquered". It seems a bit like bragging, spoken by Gaius Julius Caesar
"Silent enim leges inter arma" - "Laws are silent in times of war" spoken by Cicero. I don't call it a proverb, since while known, it never seems to have passed up into our modern lexicon of proverbs.
"Roma locuta est. Causa finita est" - I am afraid I don't have a person to credit for this quote, though it is from imperial Rome. Simply put, it translates as "Rome has spoken, the cause has finished". Basically it means what the emperor says goes.
"Nos morituri te salutant!" - "We, who are about to die, salute you". Used by gladiators about to enter battle when speaking to the Roman emperor. Frankly my comment would be a bit more virulent, but evidently the gladiators of the time were good sports. There is no direct person to credit for this quote.
"Multa ferunt anni venientes commoda secum, Multa recedentes adimiunt." - "The years as they come bring many agreeable things with them; as they go, they take many away." Horace wrote this, and while more or less obvious, I included this because it sounds cool.
"Non omnia possumus omnes." - "We all cannot do everything". Something of a proverb, it means you can't be good at every skill.
"Exegi monumentum aere perennius." - "I have erected a monument more lasting than bronze". By Horace, it refers to more than physical legacies.
"Alea iacta est." - "The die is cast". Contributed to Gaius Julius Caesar as he cross the rubicon during his bid for emporership of Rome.
"Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangunt." - "These are the tears of things, and our mortality cuts to the heart." - By Virgil, from the Aeneid. Another cool sounding but unexciting quote.

[maurel]

"The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again."
Homer, The Illiad

NOW, THAT IS a badass line /\

[maurel]

With a donkey’s jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey’s jawbone I have killed a thousand men. — Samson

Children today are tyrants. They contradict thier parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.


Socrates (Greek [Athenian] philosopher, 470-399 B.C.)

[maurel]

Spartan quotes:

"_____________(Stare)________________"
- The most famous Spartan proverb of all!

'As far as this can reach.'
When asked 'how far Sparta's boundaries stretched?', King Agesilaus' repied brandishing his spear. <sup>[2]
'These are Sparta's walls.'
When asked why Sparta lacked fortifications, King Agesilaus' pointed to his men. [2]

Not How Many But Where'
"The Spartans used to ask about the enemy, it was not important how many there are, but where the enemy was"Plutarch (46-125 bc), Apophthegmata Laconica, Agis of Anaxandridas, 3 Agesilaos (Eurypontid King, 400-360)


Some selected lines from the works of the Spartan poet Tyrtaeus, who was also a military man, his poems were sung to inspire his men.
'You should reach the limits of virtue, before you cross the border of death. '
'How glorious fall the valiant, sword in hand, in front of battle for their native land!'
'Rise up, warriors, take your stand at one another's sides, our feet set wide and rooted like oaks in the ground. '
'...learn to love death's ink-black shadow as much as you love the light of dawn. '
'Here is courage, mankind's finest possession, here is the noblest prize that a young man can endeavor to win.'



'A slave's life is all you understand, you know nothing of freedom. For if you did, you would have encouraged us to fight on, not only with our spear, but with everything we have.'
When a rich servant of the Persian King asked two Spartans why they would not befriend the Persian King who rewarded his friends and as they were men of merit, if they would only submit to him, he was sure the King would give them Greece to govern. This was their reply: [3]




'We bow down before no man.'
Afterwards (the two Spartan from the entry above) when they came to the Persian King's presence, the guards ordered them to fall down in homage and when they refused, force was used, the Spartan's resisted and this was their reply to the King. [4]

'That's fine, for I shall show that it isn't positions which lend men distinction, but men who enhance positions.'
When he was still a boy, at a celebration of the Gymnopaidai, the Choral director put him in an inconspicuous position. Even though he was already in line to become king, he complied. Leonidas (Agiad King, 491-480, Killed at Battle of Thermopylae)


'Come and take them.'
When Xerxes requested: 'Deliver up your arms', King Leonidas' defiant reply.Note: It would have been said with the bitter taste of, 'If you think your good enough...'. Leonidas' actual words were 'Molon labe' (μολών λαβέ) using Dorian Greek. "Molon" is a participle that means "after you come" and labe(λαβέ) comes from the verb lambano (λαμβάνω) that is still in use in modern greek and as imperative (λάβε in modern, λαβέ in ancient) meaning 'take'. In ancient greek with one or two words you can have a very specific meaning like this. The exact translation in modern greek would be 'αφού έρθεις, να τα πάρεις' or 'ερχόμενος λάβε τα' or not in exact translation 'έλα να τα πάρεις'.


Have a good breakfast men, for we dine in Hades!'
King Leonidas' words to his soldiers to enjoy their breakfast as nobody thought that they would survive the day; they didn't.


Ares (the god of war) is lord: Greece has no fear of gold.
When told that Persian had more gold than any other nation on earth, this was the reply.


Plutarch, Sayings of Kings and Commanders [ Moralia 191F]:
"When Paedaretus was not chosen to be one of the Three Hundred, an honor which ranked highest in the State, he departed cheerful and smiling, with the remark that he was glad if the State possessed three hundred citizens who were better than himself." [7]


"Begin with your own family."
A man argued that Sparta should set up a democracy, this was Lykurgus reply:</sup>

[maurel]

When someone promised to give fighting roosters that would die in combat, the Spartan replied.
"Don't give me those, but let me have ones that kill in combat"

At the Olympic games a Spartan was offered a large bribe to throw a match to which the victor only won a crown made of laurel leaves, he refused and with a great struggle the Spartan beat his opponent in wrestling, when he was asked "What have you gained by your victory Spartan? He replyed, with a smile:
"In battle, pride of place in front of the King." [6]

"Our Trachinian friend brings us excellent tidings. If the Medes darken the sun, we shall have our fight in the shade."
Dieneces the Spartan answer to one of the Trachinians who told him, ‘Such is the number of barbarians, that when they shot forth their arrows the sun would be darkened by the multitude.'

When told that 'Sparta was preserved by her kings' talent for command', King Theopompus' reply was:
'No, but by her citizens' readiness to obey.

"Then when you are silent, you are worthless."
When told by an Athenian that speech was the most powerful of all, King Agis' reply

"Neither"
King Philip of Macedon, wrote to the Spartans, asking whether they wished that he should come as a friend or as a foe; and they returned the answer. The Macedonias took the advice and didn't go.

"It seems all of Greece knows what is the right thing to do, but it is only the Spartans that do anything about it."
An old man who went to the Olympic games, couldn't find a seat to watch. As he went from place to place, he met with insults and jeers, as nobody made room for him. But when he came to the Spartan section, all the boys and many of the men rose and yielded their places for him. Whereupon all other Greeks there applauded the action, and commended the action beyond measure; but the old man, shaking and with tears in his eyes, said,


"So that others may not make decisions on our behalf, but we may for others."
When somebody asked why Spartans drank so sparingly, Leotychidas replied

"By not trusting everything to Fortune."
To a person who asked how a man might best maintain his present favorable circumstances, the Spartan replied


o the man who was amazed at how modest King Agesilaus and the other Spartans' cloths and meals were, the king replyed:
'Freedom is what we reap from this way of life, my friend.'

'What splendid women's quarters."
When being drawn attention to the solid city-walls with its exceptionally strong construction, King Agesilaus remark

A Spartan warrior was said to have painted a life size fly upon his aspis (shield). Asked why, the enemy would be scared of a fly he said. Because when I smash it into their face it would appear a giant.

When he was assigned the last place in the chorus by the man who was organising the dancing, Damonidas said:
Splendid, director! You have discovered how even this undistinguished place may become distinguished!'

'Stranger, it would be more honourable for you to be called a friend of your own city'
King Theopompus' reply, when a foreigner told him that in his own city, he was called a friend of Sparta

fter watching a small boy pull a mouse out of it's hole turn around and bite him on the hand of it's captor and escape, King Agesilaus said.
'When the tiniest creature defends itself like this against a giant aggressor, what ought we to do?'

Say that throughout the entire time you needed to speak, I continued to listen in silence'
When an envoy stopped after a lengthy speech and was asking what they should report back to his fellow citizens, King Agis' reply

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[maurel]

The Sayings of Spartan Women


'Strangers, my son was indeed noble and brave, but Sparta has many better men than he.'
Some Amphipolitans came to Sparta and visited Archileonis, the mother of Brasidas, after her son's death. She asked if her son had died nobly, in a manner worthy of Sparta. As they heaped praise on him and declared that in his exploits he was the best of all the Spartans, she said: [7]




Gyrtias: 'Once her grandson Acrotatus was brought home from some boys' combat badly battered and seemingly dead, and both her family and friends were sobbing, Gyrtias said: 'Won't you keep quiet!? He's shown what kind of blood he has in him,' and she added that brave men should not be howled over but should be under medical care.'






After hearing her son was a coward and unworthy of her, Damatria his mother killed him when he returned to Sparta. This is the epigram on his grave:
'Damatrius who broke the laws was killed by his mother-She's a Spartan lady, he's a Spartan youth.'






A Spartan mother who didn't think her son was Spartan enough, this was found on his tombstone:
'Away to the darkness, cowardly offspring, where out of hatred / Eurotas does not flow even for timorous deer. / Useless pup, worthless portion, away to Hades. / Away! This son unworthy of Sparta was not mine at all.'






'Son, with each step you take, bear courage in mind.'
Unnamed: 'Another woman, as she was sending her lame son up the battlefield, said:






'My father's common sense.'
Unnamed: 'When asked what dowry she was giving the man marrying her, a poor girl said:






When asked by a woman from Attica: 'Why are you Spartan women the only ones who can rule men?', she said: 'Because we are also the only ones who give birth to men.' Gorgo (daughter of Kleomenes I, born ~506. Married Leonidas I)






Let the weeping be for cowards: but you child, I bury without a tear; you are my son, and Sparta's too.
Unamed: When a mother heard that her son died in the battle-line.


In making your escape, where is it your going to? Do you plan to creep back in here where you emerged from?
Opening her robe to expose her virgina, a mother confronts her son who had fled from a battle.

Bury him; and let his brother fill his place.
A Spartan mother, hearing that her son died in battle right at his place, this was her reply.






Friends, how much finer it is to die victorious in the battle-line than to win at the Olympic games and live!
A Spartan mother, heard of her sons success in a battle, but also of his death from his many wounds.




Did you expect me to belive they sent you back to bring us the bad news?
When her son was approaching and his mother asked him 'how the war was doing?' Her son replyed, 'all the men were dead', she picked up a weapon and killed him saying...

[maurel]

The Spartans are famous for their dislike of long winded speeches. Their communications often being short and straight to the point. Below are some of the recorded comments, either detailing their dislike for long speeches or for their laconic communication skills.
"The long speech of the Athenians I do not pretend to understand. They said a good deal in praise of themselves, but nowhere denied that they are injuring our allies and the Peloponnese."
Sthenelaidas, a Sparta Ephors on hearing from an Athenian delegation on why Sparta should not declare war on Athens.
When the Spartan Lysander finally entered Athens triumphantly and put an end to the 27 year Peloponnesian War, he sent a message back to to Sparta that read "Athens is taken" the reply back from the Ephors to Lysander was "All you needed to say was 'Taken'.

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"The event that caused more surprise amoung Hellenes (greeks) than anything esle that happened in the war." Thucydides on the surrender of a Spartan force at Spharcteria.



"In Lacedaimon [Sparta] are to be found those who are most enslaved and those who are the most free." Critias of Athens


"The Spartans are the equal of any men when they fight as individuals; fighting together as a collective, they surpass all other men." Damaratus to Xerxes.

"My men have become women, my women men" King Xerxes reaction to a Greek female commander fighting for the Persians who esacpted capture at the naval battle of Salamis by ramming and sinking one of her own ships.

[maurel]

When a Spartan argued in favor of waging war against Macedon, citing as support their previous successes against Persia, King Eudamidas retorted "You seem not to realize that your proposition is the same as fighting fifty wolves after defeating a thousand sheep

After an Athenian accused Spartans of being ignorant, the Spartan Pleistoanax agreed: "What you say is true. We alone of all the Greeks have learned none of your evil ways

[SD_Man]

"You only live once" ~ the hipsters

Joking aside, here is one by Herodotus:
"In times of peace, sons bury their fathers. In times of war, fathers bury their sons."