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    Icon7 Faction Roster Previews


    Here you can find the faction rosters and unit previews.
    Note: Until release I will not have all finished units on here
    Note: This mod is in the words of jack lusted "way way pre-alpha" and everything is subject to change. Please use this thread not only as a general discussion, but also a historical one.



    Roma

    Infantry

    Camillan Hastati Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. Also this unit doesn't have any weapons yet.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Camillan Principes Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Camillan Triarii Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Camillan Rorarii Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.

    Camillan Accensi Maniple

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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. Also, Accensi tunic colors are a bit bugged atm, expect each unit to have variation on release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. Also, Accensi tunic colors are a bit bugged atm, expect each unit to have variation on release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.
    Also, Accensi tunic colors are a bit bugged atm, expect each unit to have variation on release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.
    Also, Accensi tunic colors are a bit bugged atm, expect each unit to have variation on release.

    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.
    Also, Accensi tunic colors are a bit bugged atm, expect each unit to have variation on release.

    Camillan Leve Maniple

    Polybian Velites Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release.


    Polybian Hastati Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. Helmets are not yet started same with shields

    Polybian Principes Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. Helmets are not started, and the muscled cuirass is using a placeholder texture

    Polybian Triarii Maniple
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    Note: This unit is still a wip, and EVERYTHING is subject to change, and probably will. The officers, and spacing are not started. May also contain textures from other mods that I haven't sought permission for yet, and thus might not make final release. The tunic colors featured hear are only placeholders along with the helmets

    Town Watch Cohort

    Early First Legionary Cohort

    Early Legionary Cohort

    Late First Legionary Cohort

    Late Legionary Cohort

    Evocati Cohort

    Urban Cohort

    Praetorian Guard Cohort
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    stupar123's Avatar Miles
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    Looks good

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    I think you don't need urban cohort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crooked Philosopher View Post
    I think you don't need urban cohort.
    They wont be available for recruitment, but you will get 4 when defending Rome if you have higher level military buildings.

    They will be available in custom battles

    This is because they historically existed, but where all but a police force for Rome, and not a super unit like in Rome 1 lol

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    I don't like the "early" and "late" prefixes. They weren't called that during the time, and it suggests that they're temporary troops only there if you can't wait to upgrade to late legionaries. I for one have never yet unlocked late legionaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠ View Post
    I don't like the "early" and "late" prefixes. They weren't called that during the time, and it suggests that they're temporary troops only there if you can't wait to upgrade to late legionaries. I for one have never yet unlocked late legionaries.
    Very interesting point. Not sure what else I could do because the legions did evolve over time, any ideas?

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    I can't see a single picture. Tried with Firefox and IE




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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyr View Post
    I can't see a single picture. Tried with Firefox and IE
    There arn't any yet, I'm having a major ctd problem

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    Added some camillan unit pics

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    Excellent looking Camillan units!

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    Camillan Principes look absolutely stunning !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falco View Post
    Excellent looking Camillan units!
    Quote Originally Posted by stupar123 View Post
    Camillan Principes look absolutely stunning !
    Thanks guys, glad you like them

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    Looks great!
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    Triarii wearing linothorax?

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    Yes, remember these are camillan units, not polybian.

    There are 2 schools of thought when it comes to camillan triarii.

    Some people think that they where still armed in the traditional hoplite fashion as a last ditch solid line, others say that they evolved along with the rest of the lines.

    There isn't really any concrete evidence for either, and I have gone the hoplite route, because Its the one I believe and to me makes more sense.

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    Added polybian velites, you can see the other polybian units in the background, but I need to change some armour probabilitys and textures so you will get to see them tomorrow

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    Hoplite route makes more sense to me as well. More aggressive and flexible early lines if defeated need a solid defensive line to hold off enemy so the rest of army can either re-group or successfully flee the field or possibly win the day if enemy is already exhausted from defeating the first 2 Roman lines. Also seems to accord with Roman sensibilities of conservatism and practicality. Looks nice, are you doing all the work yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General George S. Patton View Post
    Very interesting point. Not sure what else I could do because the legions did evolve over time, any ideas?
    Use the same name for both (in unit's description you might specify reformed legionaries for the later unit). UC should differ.

    If you can't use the exact same name, things complicate a little. I was thinking of using cohort only for the late legionaries, but from a quick diagonal lecture, I see that we can speak of cohorts since Marius' reforms so that's really no good. So instead, my humble suggestion is to use [First] Roman Cohort for early legions and [First] Legionary Cohort after the reforms, somehow implying that they became a legion only after they tweaked the re-organisation of the army , which is not 100% accurate, but suggestive enough for the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichon View Post
    Hoplite route makes more sense to me as well. More aggressive and flexible early lines if defeated need a solid defensive line to hold off enemy so the rest of army can either re-group or successfully flee the field or possibly win the day if enemy is already exhausted from defeating the first 2 Roman lines. Also seems to accord with Roman sensibilities of conservatism and practicality. Looks nice, are you doing all the work yourself?
    Thanks, and yes its just me for now until I can find some more people

    Quote Originally Posted by ASPGolan View Post
    Use the same name for both (in unit's description you might specify reformed legionaries for the later unit). UC should differ.

    If you can't use the exact same name, things complicate a little. I was thinking of using cohort only for the late legionaries, but from a quick diagonal lecture, I see that we can speak of cohorts since Marius' reforms so that's really no good. So instead, my humble suggestion is to use [First] Roman Cohort for early legions and [First] Legionary Cohort after the reforms, somehow implying that they became a legion only after they tweaked the re-organisation of the army , which is not 100% accurate, but suggestive enough for the game.
    Hmm, I will think about these, I was also thinking about using like Augustan, or Ceasarian legions, but I don't think that would really work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General George S. Patton View Post
    Hmm, I will think about these, I was also thinking about using like Augustan, or Ceasarian legions, but I don't think that would really work.
    That got me thinking, Republican / Imperial Legions.

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