Originally Posted by
ccllnply
Quite the funny and interesting update McScottish. And hey, I learned something. I have to admit I never knew that those tattoos were of Maori origin. Around here they're just known as "tribal" tattoos and just like you said, lots of blokes have them around here too. And the guys who have them, well lets just say their knowledge of the Maori would be limited to "they're from in New Zealand". Not to say that I know an awful lot about Maori culture but the "tribal" tattoo is often mocked because it is seen as getting a tattoo for the sake of having a tattoo.
One thing I will say is that I've never seen anyone with this tattoo on their face, which I think is what you were referring to. For instance, one of my friends has these tattoos covering all of his chest and shoulders. He's by far and away the most creative and committed as everyone else I've seen goes with the "tribal" tattoo on the outside of their calf muscle which is so common that it is mocked even further for getting a tattoo for the sake of having a tattoo.
Close, my friend of the Emerald Isle, but only half points for you.
The picture I put up is of a rather important Maori elder, who just happens to be in possession of a Ta Moko facial tatt which, if done on a Pakeha or outsider, would probably get them beaten up in NZ - thus no white person is stupid enough to even contemplate it...I'd gladly get one, and there have been whites that have gotten full facial tatts after being adopted by Maori tribes, but in this day and age it would be a very bad idea for anyone but a Maori.
What I was actually referring to are all the Polynesian-influenced designs - commonly half sleeves, full fleeves, on the torso and so forth, though I've thankfully seen very few on the legs around here (a place many islanders do mark themselves) - including Tongan, Samoan, Hawaiian, Fijian, Maori and so forth. They all go uynder the umbrella term of 'Polynesian' AKA Polynesian Islands because most are a jumbled heap of various designs torn from differing but not amazingly dissimiliar island cultures.
As I said, pretty much like me finding out the 'war paint' designs of some Native American tribes - regardless of differences - and colouring my face and body with a multitude of them.
Now don't get me twisted, I have nothing against people who like the look of these markings...okay, maybe just a little...but I mostly just hate that it is the next 'fad'.
If the Brythonic tribes had survived, or at least lasted longer, we might have been able to have our own damned tribal markings but oooooooh no!
The Romanii had to come along and mess it all up, so now we need to steal someone elses cultural heritage.
Why not just use Skythian/Kurgan designs? At least they're long dead!
All-in-all, it is lack of knowledge that irks me the most; I have a Maori-based tatt, but I at least spent a year getting to know both Maori and white NZ culture, I know what it is that I've got painted into my skin, and I got it carved in there with a needle for a specific purpose. Hell, if even half of these folk knew what the Hell they had on them, where it came from, and the people who originally bought them into life, then I would be so much happier.
For reference, here is an example of Maori art from the company that did my own, Zealand Tattoo in Christchurch:
While here is more general 'Polynesian' body art, please not the difference(s):
Many people do decide to have a blending of both because...why not! Not like they're any different, is it?
In the future, I'm going to have markings like these guys!