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    Warning: Explicit language

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM


    Exactly why Rome 2 failed, from battles that are worse in every aspect from the original, to the campaign, which is an orgy of poorly implemented features that cripple the pacing, to the barebones multiplayer, dubious DLC decisions and quite frankly pathetic polish. All outlined, analysed and explained. Please enjoy.
    Last edited by TheDarkKnight; November 19, 2013 at 04:39 PM. Reason: Warning added

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    Just watched this whole thing. I'm in complete agreement with almost everything except a few comments.

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    Good review. A tad too much cursing though.

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    That was a very well put together review, actually one of the best reviews I have ever encountered.
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    Good review, but it's too focussed on battle problems. The poor campaign gameplay really turns me off, but you basicially only mention the turn time. Warscape was and is a turd when it comes to battles, but most of the horrible new design errors were introduced in the campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSane View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM

    Exactly why Rome 2 failed, from battles that are worse in every aspect from the original, to the campaign, which is an orgy of poorly implemented features that cripple the pacing, to the barebones multiplayer, dubious DLC decisions and quite frankly pathetic polish. All outlined, analysed and explained. Please enjoy.
    After watching and enjoying your Empire Total War review, I was waiting for you to make a Rome 2 review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy_Licker View Post
    Good review, but it's too focussed on battle problems. The poor campaign gameplay really turns me off, but you basicially only mention the turn time. Warscape was and is a turd when it comes to battles, but most of the horrible new design errors were introduced in the campaign.
    It says at the end that there is a part 2 coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis_Maximus View Post
    It says at the end that there is a part 2 coming
    Ah okay.

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    Damn CA Wake Up!

    Im done with TW i hope there are some good mods coming for Rome but any TW after ROME No Thanxs.
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    Default Re: Sane Critique, Why Rome 2 Failed

    The same video got deleted from the other forum.

    By the way good review.

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    I really like his voice and choice of words and sarcastic tones.

    In Part 2 please lace your vid with more instances of "f***kin'...!"

    edit: I also noticed he took some of the meme stuff I made. I couldn't believe it, it's like I made TV!
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    I've been looking forward to this review ever since he went over why Empire failed.

    But, of course, we should understand that "failed" means something else in CA board meetings than on this forum. The reason they keep making these games is that they sell enough copies to make a profit.

    I doubt Rome 2 has been a sales failure...
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    Chapeau, my good sir. Spot on!

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    Wonderful review. It most likely will fall on deaf ears as Rome II was a financial success through false claims and other nefarious methods of marketing. Can't wait for the 2nd part!
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    It's a real upgrade, and we're not even halfway to alpha."

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    Nice one. Loved it.

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    Yeah it's pretty good and it's not classic AAHHHHH IT'S it's more like Angry Joe's video in which he like you goes into detail why the game is and what I especially like about your video is that you give some really good suggestions how things could be fixed like in naval battles for example.

    When is part 2 coming,I can't wait.

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    Pretty good review. Looking forward to part 2.

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    Very good review, unfortunately there is no way back for RTW2 because none of the problems can be fixed because they are not problems they are design choices.

    Nice to see my patches joke being used by the way.

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    Excellent review!. Sadly it hit homes the point that the game cannot be fixed. If they do this to Warhammer CA will become the joke of the gaming community. Why is it though that CA doesn't want to listen to the very people they are trying to sell games to. Our only hope is they sell the TW series to a company that will be passionate about what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEARLESS View Post
    Excellent review!. Sadly it hit homes the point that the game cannot be fixed. If they do this to Warhammer CA will become the joke of the gaming community.

    I think Warhammer Fantasy fans will just be happy that there's finally a game for them.

    If Rome 2 had been the very first game in the series, not many would have complained so forcefully, they would just have shrugged and played something else. The reason for the big backlash is that we had better games before in this series. Ten years ago.
    The game development business is one of bottomless greed, pitiless cruelty, venal treachery, rampant competition, low politics and boundless personal ambition. New game series are rising, and others are starting their long slide into obscurity and defeat.

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