Changing Ownership of a City

[Enra]

Hello everyone,

thanks to all the false promises of CA and this pretty stupid diplomacy system I'm in need of your help.

By an "accident" I captured a settlement which should have been in ownership of one of my allies so that I don't have to deal with the eastern front by now.

I already tried the "easy" way with rebellions but my allies never give those damn rebels a chance to take the city. Normally I would say this a good thing....

Now I'm trying to edit the save game so that my ally can have the city.
My Problem here is that I can't find the Regions_array for Olbia [Ponta-Caspia Region - Upper end of the Black Sea]. I checked the list 3times up and down but I can't find it.

Is there any overview of the Region Arrays present or do you know the ID???

[Dresden]

This is a really complicated process that involves the Region Array, Provinces Array, Sea Regions Array (if it is on the sea), CAI WORLD FACTIONS, CAI WORLD REGIONS, CAI WORLD PROVINCES, CAI FACTION PROVINCES, CAI FACTION SEA REGIONS, CAI WORLD SETTELEMENTS....and probably a few more tables. I can write up a tutorial when I get some free time, but it is a messy task to do even 1 region.

[Enra]

This is a really complicated process that involves the Region Array, Provinces Array, Sea Regions Array (if it is on the sea), CAI WORLD FACTIONS, CAI WORLD REGIONS, CAI WORLD PROVINCES, CAI FACTION PROVINCES, CAI FACTION SEA REGIONS, CAI WORLD SETTELEMENTS....and probably a few more tables. I can write up a tutorial when I get some free time, but it is a messy task to do even 1 region.

wow. thanks for the info Dresden.
I thought it would be just 1 or maybe 2 tables to edit. I probably never understand why CA did what they did
I guess the only option for me now is to declare war on my ally till they take the city and then try to get them back into the boat....


Thanks also for the other very good tutorials and Mods!

[yukishiro1]

All the stuff having to do with provinces is so stupidly complicated that it feels like CA almost made it that way on purpose to thwart modding. Which is odd, because they'd have no incentive to do that. But it's hard to see how they came up with this awful system by chance. It just screams poor design.

[Enra]

All the stuff having to do with provinces is so stupidly complicated that it feels like CA almost made it that way on purpose to thwart modding. Which is odd, because they'd have no incentive to do that. But it's hard to see how they came up with this awful system by chance. It just screams poor design.

yes. for me it is the worst total war ever. just because they let it look in their videos like the super next gen Total War game.
For me it looks like a lite version of the previous 4 games or so... just with a little better graphics (who cares) and some of the same bugs and problems...

But I don't want this thread to be a new R2 complain thread. Everyone knows this anyway

[yukishiro1]

I didn't mean to make it into a generic complaint thread. I was complaining in specific about some of the coding choices they made in this game, in particular how they chose to do the esf coding for cities. I am not a coder so there could be something I'm overlooking, but from the perspective of a modder it is a horribly cumbersome set of design choices that don't seem to provide any benefits to anyone.