Sparta Re-Made:Brutal Edition [Update 10/26/13][Patch 5 Ready][Workshop Ready]

[Regoso]

MOD Notes: This mod is for Seasoned Total War Vets looking for a Challenge out of Rome 2.
Pics can be found on the workshop here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...81&searchtext=
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This mod is not for the faint of heart, download at your own risk.

This mod is meant to be played on Legendary/Legendary anything but this will not be 100% supported.

Faction Traits:
-50% Servile unrest
+500% Wealth generated from slaves
-25% Slave population decline
-60% Wealth from all Buildings
+25% Mercenary upkeep (does not apply to Mecerany barracks units)
-30 reputation with hellenic factions (no greek wants you to raise again in power)
-60% Tariff income from trade agreements (will only apply to new trade agreements)
+25% Tech Acquisition Time (it takes longer to get stuff)
-50% Corruption (less prone to Corruption)
+100% Agent recruitment cost

Here is what you have going against you:

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1:The units you can recruit early are down right awful and well flee at the 1st sign of a fight.

2:It cost Money to recruit and keep a Spartan army trained and feed.....Money you don't have.

3:You can only recruit Spartan and Perioikoi units in the Hellas Province.

4:The buildings you need to recruit Units are spread all over the military building tree letting you make the decision on what parts of your military to neglect.

5:Your tactics are Rigid and out of date.

6:The Spartan way of life leads your economy very much wanting.

7:Your at War with an enemy that will overwhelm you if you do not find a way to win quickly.

But take heart for you are a Spartan and you will never give in for as long as you still draw breath you can and will fight.

This is what i give you to play with:

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1:30+ new units with varying styles of play in mind.

2:A real feel for what it was like to struggle to hold on to a floundering nation.

3:You have friends in Athens and Macedon that you can use to your advantage.

4:Full Auxiliary system which adds 60+ units spread all over the world.

But with all that said i need everyone's help as im having trouble creating variantmeshs, faction bonus balancing, Unit Balancing, problem solving issues like how to create a new building and ad it to a chain and tech trees and just general adding of ideas.

new units currently in game:

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notes:
1:just because a units says elite/royal on it doesnt means its going to be god mode or even close to the best you can get.
2:units do not have a unique look yet.
3:i will upload pics when i get a chance.
4:i will edit this better later
unit~~~~~~~building
Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Archers~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_4
Gre_Perioikoi_Archers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_3,4
Gre_Neodamodeis_Archers ~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_2,3,4
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Skirmishers ~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_3,4
Gre_Perioikoi_Skirmishers ~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_2,3,4
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Swords ~~~~~military_buff_inf_attack_4
Gre_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Swords ~~~~~~~~military_buff_inf_attack_3,4
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Peltests ~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_4
Gre_Neodamodeis_Javelinmen ~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_2,3
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Gre_Perioikoi_Tarentines ~~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_2,3,4
Gre_Royal_Perioikoi_Tarentines ~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_4
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Slingers ~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_4
Gre_Perioikoi_Slingers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_3,4
Gre_Neodamodeis_Slingers ~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_aux_3,4
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Gre_Perioikoi_Cav ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_2,3,4
Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Sword_Cav ~~~~~~~~military_buff_cav_4
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Hoplites ~~~~~military_main_heavy_5
Gre_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Hoplites ~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_4,5
Gre_Neodamodeis_Hoplites ~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_3,4,5
Gre_Helot_Hoplites ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_1,2,3,4,5
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Gre_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Pike ~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_4,5
Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Skiritai_Pike ~~~~~~~~ military_main_heavy_5
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Gre_Royal_Spartan_Pike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_5
Gre_Neodamodeis_Pike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_2,3,4,5
Gre_Helot_Pike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_1,2,3,4,5
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Gre_Royal_Spartan_Thorakites ~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_5
Gre_Spartan_Thorakites ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_4,5
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Gre_Elite_Perioikoi_Thorakites ~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_5
Gre_Perioikoi_Thorakites ~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_4,5
Gre_Neodamodeis_Spears ~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_2,3,4,5
Gre_Helot_Spears ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~military_main_heavy_1,2,3,4,5
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Unit List for Auxiliary System(66) / Region Type or Location needed to recruit units:

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Afr Archers / Sabaean
Afr Cav / Sabaean
Afr Elephant / Phazania Libue Aithiops
Afr Spr / Sabaean
Ara Camel Archers / Nabatea ArabiaMagna ArabiaFelix
Ara Camel Spear / Nabatea ArabiaMagna ArabiaFelix
Ara Cav / Arabian
Ara Spr / Arabian
Bac Hillmen / Bactrian
Bac Light Horse / Bactrian
Bri Scout Riders / Briton
Bri Slingers / Briton
Bri Spear Band / Briton
Cav / Briton
Cel Axe Warriors / Raetia et Noricum
Cel Light Horse / Celtic
Cel Skirm / Celtic
Cel Warriors / Celtic
Dac Bowmen / Thracian
Dac Falxmen / Thracian
Dac Spear Horsemen / Thracian
Dac Spears / Thracian
Eas Cappadocian Cav / Galatia et Cappadocia
Eas Hillmen / Assyrian
Eas Horse Skirm / Assyrian
Eas Javelinmen / Assyrian
Egy Archers / Egyptian
Egy Infantry / Egyptian
Gal Light Horse / Gallic
Gal Warriors / Gallic
Ger Longbow Hunters / Gallic
Ger Scout Riders / Germanic
Spear Brothers / Germanic
Citizen Cav / Germanic
Cretan Archers / Hellenic
Hoplites / Hellenic
Peltasts / Hellenic
Rhodian Slingers / Hellenic
Tarantine cav / Hellenic
Thessalian Cav / Hellenic
Ibe Balearic Slingers / Cartaginensis
Ibe Cantabrian Cav / Tarraconensis
Ibe Cav / Iberian
Ibe Slingers / Iberian
Ibe Sword / Iberian
Illyrian Cav / Illyrian
Illyrian Coastal Levies / Illyrian
Illyrian Hoplites / Illyrian
Ind War Elephant / Gedrosia Arachosia Bactria Aria
Infantry / Italian
Socii Equites / Italian
Socii Equites Extraordinarii / Italian
Socii Extraordinarii / Italian
Socii Hastati / Italian
Num Cav / North African
Num Javelinmen / North African
Par Horse Archers / Parthian
Par Spear / Parthian
Per Archers / Persian
Per Cav / Persian
Sar Horse Archers / Sarmatian
Sar Lancers / Sarmatian
Scy Horse Archers / Scythian
Syrian Archers / Syria
Thr Cav / Thracian
Thr Peltasts / Thracia

Current mods included with permission:

City-Sack-Liberation-and-Diplomatic-Options-Mod by Dresden

Improved-Mercenary-Camps by Regoso

Current Unimplemented mods that well be used: None atm if you would like to see your mod added to the mod give me a PM and well talk about it.


Available via Steam workshop here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=187397381

Old Downloads:

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Download: v0.0.8

If normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version.

Uncompressed Download: v0.0.8
Download: v0.0.7

If normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version.

Uncompressed Download: v0.0.7

v0.0.6 changes:loads of changes and fixes
-units stats have been fooled around with(not inline yet with patch 4 changes)
-units cost and recruitment fixes
-Faction Traits added
-Royal Perioikoi Tarentine are now Royal Perioikoi Tarentine Chargers
-Some factions are now much more powerful
-and more

Download: v0.0.6

if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: v0.0.6

v0.0.5 changes: Some units did not have correct Recrutment and Upkeep cost also made some changes to existing units cost also changed the Faction Traits and changed some of the unit weights

Download: v0.0.5

if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: v0.0.5


v0.0.4 changes: Added Improved-Mercenary-Camps mod with alot of changes to the prices and the buildings which things can be recruited from as well as some other fixes

Download: v0.0.4

if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: v0.0.4
Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/jn...RMBE_0_0_3.rar
if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/cd...MBE_0_0_3.pack

v0.0.3 changes: fixed some units showing up in wrong buildings and further stat tweaks and other stuff that i cant remember

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/lc...RMBE_0_0_2.rar

if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uv...MBE_0_0_2.pack

changes v0.0.2:
stat changes and a few other small things

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/q8...RMBE_0_0_1.rar

if normal Download is acting funny use Uncompressed version

Uncompressed Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ct...MBE_0_0_1.pack

Feed Back is VERY MUCH NEEDED!!!
also i'm looking for team members some people who are good at making meshs/UI/AI/someone who can help me spiffy up this post and someone who knows there way around the the PFM

Source Material to Justify some of the changes: http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki...y_organization

[aNarion.]

Nice challenge! Any pics would be lovely

[Hidanga]

Wow, a must have for me. Will comment afterwards.

[Regoso]

Nice challenge! Any pics would be lovely

currently not working on meshs so there all just copies so id hate to show you guys 6 units with varying stats. I'm working as best i can on the stats part and balancing Sparta's crazy economy i'm trying to implement(Slave ALL THE THINGS!!!) among other things im trying to implement.

[Reichmar12]

Quick question. I'm already using the diplomacy mod by Dresden. Did you include that inside your pack, or was that a personal "here's what I'm using with my mod"?

Don't want to put two of the same mods in my data folder :-)

[Regoso]

Wow, a must have for me. Will comment afterwards.

ill be waiting

Quick question. I'm already using the diplomacy mod by Dresden. Did you include that inside your pack, or was that a personal "here's what I'm using with my mod"?

Don't want to put two of the same mods in my data folder :-)

Its already included

[z28man]

looks challenging. Will probably give a try in the near future. I've got a few campaigns going right now and I'd like to finish them first

[Regoso]

looks challenging. Will probably give a try in the near future. I've got a few campaigns going right now and I'd like to finish them first

It diffantly can be, also take your time this mod still needs alot of work.

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v0.0.2 is now Live

[Heinz Guderian]

when i get off work next (this weekend) i intend to write an exhaustive alpha test review for you Regoso. You are quickly becoming Rome 2's modding saviour.

[Regoso]

when i get off work next (this weekend) i intend to write an exhaustive alpha test review for you Regoso. You are quickly becoming Rome 2's modding saviour.

sounds good i mainly need to know about economy and unit stats and units showing up in the right buildings as i havnt even started really on doing meshs yet what i need is a someone who knows how to do meshs so i can work on the stats and atmosphere part of the game.

[Regoso]

v0.0.3 is now Live

v0.0.3 changes: fixed some units showing up in wrong buildings and further stat tweaks and other stuff that i cant remember

[Regoso]

v0.0.4 is now LIVE

v0.0.4 changes: Added Improved-Mercenary-Camps mod with alot of changes to the prices and the buildings which things can be recruited from as well as some other fixes

[Winterspawn]

Testing it now after a long and exhausting evening of running errands.

[Regoso]

Testing it now after a long and exhausting evening of running errands.

just try not to get to worn out iv been able to progress alittle in my current game but its a ground and pound affair you have to be on top of your game for thos early battles as your units dont take losing guys to well and for what its worth dont lose your early Spartan and Perioika units they are your go to units early on

[Winterspawn]

just try not to get to worn out iv been able to progress alittle in my current game but its a ground and pound affair you have to be on top of your game for thos early battles as your units dont take losing guys to well and for what its worth dont lose your early Spartan and Perioika units they are your go to units early on

I'm now at turn 9 and I'm in a position where I can now destroy Epirus this turn or the next (after much delay because my army was being sabotaged the first 4 turns). So for it's pretty difficult mainly the fact that you can't recruit anything but Helot melee units. The pikemen are very usable the others not so much. The income is no problem at this point because every faction gets a basic amount of money just for existing. Tomorrow I'll play some more but it seems the mod is working fine so far with no bugs and doing exactly as it should.

[Regoso]

I'm now at turn 9 and I'm in a position where I can now destroy Epirus this turn or the next (after much delay because my army was being sabotaged the first 4 turns). So for it's pretty difficult mainly the fact that you can't recruit anything but Helot melee units. The pikemen are very usable the others not so much. The income is no problem at this point because every faction gets a basic amount of money just for existing. Tomorrow I'll play some more but it seems the mod is working fine so far with no bugs and doing exactly as it should.

hmmmmmmmm so what your saying is i need to nerf the pikemen....ill look into that..... and i was around the same point when i took on Epirus i had ambushed them just above Sparta and took out Pyrrhus and hes elephants then had a big battle against the main forces and then took Larissa and Applonia (sp?) i stopped shortly after that to make changes and get back to modding. Did you recruit any Mercs from the Mercenary tab also what was your army comp.

EDIT: any and all details like when did you start recruiting were did you fight at how many loses did you take are you afraid to lose a unit or are they just what ever still when you lose one every bit of info helps me out so much its hard for me to explain it properly.

EDIT EDIT: also are you useing v0.0.4 or one of the other ones

[Winterspawn]

hmmmmmmmm so what your saying is i need to nerf the pikemen....ill look into that..... and i was around the same point when i took on Epirus i had ambushed them just above Sparta and took out Pyrrhus and hes elephants then had a big battle against the main forces and then took Larissa and Applonia (sp?) i stopped shortly after that to make changes and get back to modding. Did you recruit any Mercs from the Mercenary tab also what was your army comp.

EDIT: any and all details like when did you start recruiting were did you fight at how many loses did you take are you afraid to lose a unit or are they just what ever still when you lose one every bit of info helps me out so much its hard for me to explain it properly.

EDIT EDIT: also are you useing v0.0.4 or one of the other ones

-No don't nerf them, they where in Phalanx and took heavy losses when a unit of Hoplites frontally charged them, so many that they are noticably weaker then even the regular levy pikemen who would have taken barely any losses.
-I did not recruit any mercs due to the relatively bad financial situation I start with, I want to stockpile some cash.
-I had my starting army with which I took Larissa, then I recruited 4 Helot Pikemen and 2 Helot spearmen (the spearman are really useless it's better to go all out Phalanx at this point), with which I'm about to beat them at Appolonia where I already beat of their small armies of which one is intact and the other 2 are severely depleted, and the town garrison.
-I started recruiting 6 turns after start when I finally took Larissa (my army was being sabotaged 4 turns in a row making moving impossible)
-I DO fear losing my initial forces and send the Helots (slaves) first to do and use my good forces to flank
-I only took minor losses so far due to tactical success
-I use 0.04

[Regoso]

-No don't nerf them, they where in Phalanx and took heavy losses when a unit of Hoplites frontally charged them, so many that they are noticably weaker then even the regular levy pikemen who would have taken barely any losses.
-I did not recruit any mercs due to the relatively bad financial situation I start with, I want to stockpile some cash.
-I had my starting army with which I took Larissa, then I recruited 4 Helot Pikemen and 2 Helot spearmen (the spearman are really useless it's better to go all out Phalanx at this point), with which I'm about to beat them at Appolonia where I already beat of their small armies of which one is intact and the other 2 are severely depleted, and the town garrison.
-I started recruiting 6 turns after start when I finally took Larissa (my army was being sabotaged 4 turns in a row making moving impossible)
-I DO fear losing my initial forces and send the Helots (slaves) first to do and use my good forces to flank
-I only took minor losses so far due to tactical success
-I use 0.04

hmmm i dont know i might move them to a diffrant building the military_buff_inf_defense one probly as it has no units attached atm or lower there morale by 5 or so and maybe up there recruitment cost


also this is what i like to see nice bullet points all lined up giving very informative feed back this pleases me greatly

[Regoso]

v0.0.5 is now LIVE

v0.0.5 changes: Some units did not have correct Recrutment and Upkeep cost also made some changes to existing units cost also changed the Faction Traits and changed some of the unit weights

[Winterspawn]

I noticed that I can't recruit units in Macedonia, I recommend you to add that province to the list of provinces where you can recruit Spartan units, that way you get a clear goal of capturing that first to be able to pump out armies. You also can't recruit helot units outside of Hellas, I would make them a globally recruitable unit since you know, they're just slaves.