Total biscuit talks about CA

[sobchack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgU7hqX0KAQ&t=7m48snot



not trying to start more flaming, im actually very much enjoying rome 2. but he does say some things that i think CA, and game devs in general, should hear. There does seem to be some major features that were intended to be much more complex/interesting that were dumbed down at release (the political system for example)mods, please delete if this is already posted somewhere

[Boicote]

In the official forum, mods are moving every thread about this article to an obscure part of the forum, so no one can see it. I hope that mods in TWC will not to the same.
FREEDOM!!!

[Siven]

Yeah i saw this and the article earlier.All the posts about the article are being moved to the rants forums on the official forums and anyone questioning it gets an infraction. I know i did for questioning the mod Sasu.

[craziii]

boicote, that is why I don't use the official forums. when I realized it is just another extension of their marketing department. they want to control what you read and discuss, that renders the entire official forum moot.

[Påsan]

I liked that, it generally covered my impression upon reading this article.


A lot more factual and serious than Angry Joe too.

[sobchack]

In the official forum, mods are moving every thread about this article to an obscure part of the forum, so no one can see it. I hope that mods in TWC will not to the same.
FREEDOM!!!

ya, thats where i found this. I wasn't going to post it here until they instantly moved that thread to Rants and Raves. censorship of constructive critiques is not how improvement is made

[AlyssaFaden]

ahahaha, Siven I saw your post and also made a comment of my own. Heck my comment I felt was pretty tame and innocuous. But nooooooooooooo "You have received an infraction at Total War forums - official forums of the Total War series"

[AlyssaFaden]

I couldn't resist saying something back to him via PM. I'm a grown woman with a senior level job and it's all I can do not to get dragged into a pointless argument ... I'm not going there, I have more character ... but my word I had to say *something.*

Hey man, I can respect you, your position and what you are trying to do by keeping a level of calm and control on the forums. And while I understand that having the masses question your every move would be counter productive and unruly, it doesn't make every decision that is made to be a right decision. You can hide behind whatever terms & conditions you want to wave around, but ultimately they boil down to: Don't question me, because my word is law. And that's cool and everything, but it's not exactly the way to lead people to the truth. You're missing an opportunity to lead and are instead waving around a rulebook. You've got your style, I can dig it, but as styles go it's kinda iffy.

[Siven]

Yeah, i saw your post too.

They do like deleting post that question their ability to handle a bit of power. Im 33 with a thick skin, those posts wouldnt even bother me.

[AlyssaFaden]

I know, right? And I know that these moderators are grown guys and should have a thick skin as well. Your post was in no way an attack and it could have been completely ignored. *shakes head*

[Mithridate]

Holy hell, that is absolutely undefendable and utterly disgusting... It starts at 7:54

[Eien]

pfah, now we know why Rome 2 came out the way it did. Metacritic obsessed retards. That Heaton person should never be allowed in game dev ever again.

[ironman3112]

Yeah i saw this and the article earlier.All the posts about the article are being moved to the rants forums on the official forums and anyone questioning it gets an infraction. I know i did for questioning the mod Sasu.

This is exactly what happened to me to. Ironman3112 here as well as on the official forum, oh well though, not much we can do about it.

[krigalo]

"Certainly some elements of a team -- and this always happens with every team I've ever worked with -- just go, 'Come on, just give me a game design document. Just tell me what I need to do and then I will do it to the best of my ability.' And we slowly, hopefully, educate people that's just not the best way."

There are no words to describe how much this statement pisses me off.

[Jackal2233]

Now this explains alot

[Twido]

There is something very depressing but absolutely inevitable about this. The games industry has got bigger and bigger; just look at the GTA 5 sales records. This kind of money was always going to attract a greater level of management in the industry. These managers will look at ways to maximise profits (after all that is their job) and crappy business practices ensue. From their point of view they do increase their profits, but we get a worse game as a result.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

The guys from the official forum are members here too.
It is much stricter over there and they do not allow Religion or politics threads to be made as it could harm the company.
It is owned by Total War so they are going to be stricter than here.

[Plan C]

Well, this attitude is quite simply undeserving of my custom. I shall take it elsewhere. Shame because I grew up with TW franchise and it hurts to see it devoured by corporate interests. Bottom line mentality is picking TW's bones clean.

[Kipman2000]

Not cool CA - not cool....

[cevap]

This article actually explains a lot about Rome 2s lackluster design and half implemented features, making games for the halfwits at IGN and Gamespot. It kinda brings a grin to my face when I see its Metacritic score is 79 although personally Id agree more with the user average.
The 40% bigger budget couldnt matter as well since they trampled it on features they werent sure reviewers would like, the morale at work had to have been abysmal when cool stuff was cut because of this nonsense, "streamlining" features that were not even convoluted to begin with. Maybe the low unit morale in prepatched Rome 2 is a hidden help message left by a dev in distress

But seriously this shows the poor management in CAs studio, anything not the size of Shogun is gonna suffer the lack of personality and creativity.