Missing historical battles, potential future DLC?

**Greve Af Göteborg** · September 23, 2013, 03:50 PM

Greve Af Göteborg, vigilante detective, is proud to present his latest findings. (This is a cross-post from my account over at the official forum)

Alesia
Cannae
Capua
Carrhae
Cynoscephalae
Pharsalus
Silarus_River
Watling_Street
Zama
Zela
Carthage
Nile
Raphia
Teutoburg_Forest

This is the full list of historical battles found in the battles file in the db. 4 out of 14 historical battles are active, the remaining 10 have had their battle scripts removed.

**King_Porus** · September 23, 2013, 03:56 PM

Well done detective, you'll make Sergeant for this

I think the more likely story is that they were running out of time for the game (because of Sega's deadline) and they decided that historical battles aren't as important as campaign and MP, so they scrapped some of them and released the historical battles section unfinished.

Maybe they'll be a DLC or FreeLC, or maybe they've been scrapped outright and CA just forgot to completely remove them

**jamreal18** · September 23, 2013, 03:59 PM

Nice find!

Why did they produce a game with higher budget but with lesser historical battles compared to its predessor? I expected more historical battles since the announcement of rome2...

**Rasic** · September 23, 2013, 04:09 PM

Looking at what Sega has done for Company of Heroes 2 my money is on DLC. They just can't release that stuff with a straight face seeing as how the game is currently.

**Smiling Hetairoi** · September 23, 2013, 04:14 PM

No Magnesia? Explain this crap

**Knight of Heaven** · September 23, 2013, 04:20 PM

No historical naval battles? like Actium?

At anycase i expect more historical battles down the line, just like shogun 2. Once the game is patched alot and the dlcs begin to be released.

**Humble Warrior** · September 23, 2013, 07:08 PM

I am so not a fan of historical battles. I much prefer 'what if' dynamic campaigns. They would also be a cheap way to DLCs. No, not good, but thats just me.

**.Mitch.** · September 23, 2013, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg

Greve Af Göteborg, vigilante detective, is proud to present his latest findings. (This is a cross-post from my account over at the official forum)

Bit late..
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...orical+Battles

Only two weeks too slow though..

**Greve Af Göteborg** · September 23, 2013, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by .Mitch.

Bit late..
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...orical+Battles

Only two weeks too slow though..

Agh, damnit. Oh well

**DogSoldierSPQR** · September 23, 2013, 07:43 PM

There's a ton of stuff in there. Even models for Scipio and Hannibal from the trailers. Definitely DLC. I'm not liking this.
I don't mean to sound like I'm hating here but I am kind of disappointed with a lot of things with Rome 2. Missing features, missing battles and the whole scope of everything doesn't feel anywhere near as epic as what was shown.

My teacher once told me that bending the truth was ok as long as you stay within your limits, but outright lying is a no go. CA went too far with the advertising.

**Josh Knight** · September 23, 2013, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by DogSoldierSPQR

There's a ton of stuff in there. Even models for Scipio and Hannibal from the trailers. Definitely DLC. I'm not liking this.
I don't mean to sound like I'm hating here but I am kind of disappointed with a lot of things with Rome 2. Missing features, missing battles and the whole scope of everything doesn't feel anywhere near as epic as what was shown.

My teacher once told me that bending the truth was ok as long as you stay within your limits, but outright lying is a no go. CA went too far with the advertising.

When you saw that pre-alpha Carthage footage did you think your computer could really even handle it? I know 95% of our computers couldn't deal with so many units/effects/such a large city. So, if it's unplayable to most of your audience why would you put it like that in the game? All that was for was to look pretty. I never took that as representative of the game. That applies to all trailers. They are just marketing, not realism. I thought we all knew that by now.

**sleepyx732** · September 23, 2013, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Josh Knight

When you saw that pre-alpha Carthage footage did you think your computer could really even handle it? I know 95% of our computers couldn't deal with so many units/effects/such a large city. So, if it's unplayable to most of your audience why would you put it like that in the game? All that was for was to look pretty. I never took that as representative of the game. That applies to all trailers. They are just marketing, not realism. I thought we all knew that by now.

As if making excuses for a company that lied and falsely advertised their product for over a year is the way to go. You're right though, 95% probably wouldn't be able to handle it, but that's why we have that wonderful thing called graphic options.. everybody's doing it.

**DogSoldierSPQR** · September 23, 2013, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Josh Knight

When you saw that pre-alpha Carthage footage did you think your computer could really even handle it? I know 95% of our computers couldn't deal with so many units/effects/such a large city. So, if it's unplayable to most of your audience why would you put it like that in the game? All that was for was to look pretty. I never took that as representative of the game. That applies to all trailers. They are just marketing, not realism. I thought we all knew that by now.

False advertising. That's what it is. It matters not whether we could handle it or not. We were shown something we didn't get. It's the principle.

I get your point but you can't defend something like this.

**Deathcake** · September 23, 2013, 11:17 PM

There should also be a clear difference in labeling of such things as to what is a 'trailer' (ie pre-rendered, final fantasy cut scene style) and what is actual gameplay footage 'live' from in game. I am not sure they made that distinction clear at all.

But back to topic, yes I think there might well be 'historial battle dlc pack 1-3' maybe with each containing 3 or 4 historical battles. They might even be tied in 'faction dlc' so you buy the faction/s and you get the associated historical battles, mind you that doesn't explain why some big roman battles were left out, maybe they are going to release an 'ultra rome' dlc...

**AngryTitusPullo** · September 24, 2013, 03:27 AM

CA will possibly add some of it when the release Seleucid and the Steppe pack. The question is that are they going to be free or included in Steppe pack ?