Unable to attack city if blockaded by another faction?

[RedGuard]

Had this happen a few times now and its annyoing. A faction will just camp there with a huge fleet and never attack, then that region will be in my path of conquest and I will be unable to attack the region being blockaded unless I make the one blockading, an enemy (stupid, the enemy of my enemy is my friend) or like in my newest case, would make me have to betray my most longstanding ally.

Kinda of a drawback of the combined land and naval battles as one used to have no bearing on the other, but now combined the naval ai is treated like a seige rather than just a blocking of a port

[Obeseian]

im having the same problem... in my roman campaign western sicily revolted from carthage and they have been blockading it for 30 years.....
and i really need the province but do not want to fight carthage and libya to just get them to quit blockading the settlement...
oddly on there i did take sardinia from them earlier in the campaign but now we have friendly relations..and carthage is having bad internal troubles.

[Eikki]

Western sicily for me too. The AI really likes blockading that settlement. Also Carthago has been under blockade by Libya for 40 or so years

[Templar Spartan]

Yep, I had to wait around 15 turns for Egypt to finally stop blockading Athens with my army literally right next to it the whole time.

[RedGuard]

yes ing libya. They had the whole north african coast blockaded it seemed after they revolted from carthage. Had thapsus an Iol blockaded. My solution was to send two legions down there to take the two cities they have, thus knocking them out of the game. A bit overkill to just get a nation to stop a blockade, having to take over thier whole country lol.

[craziii]

that is just an oversight, I hope it is easy to fix with the next patch.

[Earende]

Problem is AI loves blocking docks and in this game, you can siege/assault directly from the sea, thus blockade = siege without surrender countdown = blockade forever. There's no distinction between naval blockade and siege from sea.

[krisslanza]

It's a bit similar to how you can't siege a city if someone is already sieging it. The AI seems to REALLY love to blockade naval settlements though... I'm not sure how it pulls them off that much, given the attrition rate and the overall small size of ships but...

[RedGuard]

It's a bit similar to how you can't siege a city if someone is already sieging it. The AI seems to REALLY love to blockade naval settlements though... I'm not sure how it pulls them off that much, given the attrition rate and the overall small size of ships but...

yes, but the city can never sallie out or give up, unlike a seige. If that were the case the problem would be fixed. But in past games you could seige a city that was seiged by an ally also, then attack before them and take the city for you thus making the fact that your ally was just sitting there not a problem, but you can't even do that here. It matters not if the blockader is an ally or not.

EDIT: Also if it is in a sea you control you can leave a blockade fleet there indefinetly with no attrition

that is just an oversight, I hope it is easy to fix with the next patch.

Hopefully sooner rather than later, didnt get fixed today so...

[krisslanza]

I've been sieged via the sea before and I was able to sally out... in a fashion. My fleet happened to be there. When I tried a blockade once, I certainly took attrition damage for doing it. I did not, however, see if I could starve them out. Probably not, since I'm not really stopping them from growing or receiving food in the province...

[Germanicus75]

Problem is AI loves blocking docks and in this game, you can siege/assault directly from the sea, thus blockade = siege without surrender countdown = blockade forever. There's no distinction between naval blockade and siege from sea.

I'm having this problem too...

Attacking the island of Corsica as Rome (Karilis I think the settlement is called). Normal difficulty.

The settlement is held by the Punic Rebels.

Liguria is blockading the port.

I have landed a legion on the island and marched up to the settlement. But the game won't let me attack the settlement/rebels. It gives me the little sword icon for "attack" and makes the attack noise, but nothing happens when I make the order.

So is this a game feature? That you cannot attack an army *from the land* which is in a city whose port is being blockaded?

Does that sound reasonable to you? if so, what purpose does this feature serve?

Have a I wasted my time and have to wait for 50 turns until the AI decides to stop blockading the port, lol...

[Verann]

This happened to me too when I was going to conquer Pella, it was blocked by a neutral faction, and they never left, so I had to declare war on them, destroy them and THEN I could assault the city.

[big_feef]

This was my final straw right here. I was already frustrated with the ridiculous battle mechanics that almost forced me to auto-resolve battles for the most part. I was playing as Carthage and Rome declared on me in turn 6. I took Syracuse and worked my way to Cosentia by turn 20. From before turn 6, one, and I mean *one* Etruscan League ship was blockading Brundisium and causing havoc with the public order in the entire province (another crappy mechanic). I move in to finally attack Brundisium after destroying 3 decent-sized Roman armies in southern Italy and I can't because it's being blockaded by that *one* ship. I actually waited to see how long the Romans would take to actually destroy that one ship... they never did in more than 30 turns. Same goes for *all* blockades; The AI doesn't do anything at all to remove them, period.

[ImperatorPollo]

I had hoped I would find a work-around for this in this thread, since I have experienced the same thing repeatedly. I too have seen the sword (attack) icon when I mouse over the city I want to attack (Lilybaeum(sp?) every campaign) but it just makes the move accepted noise and does nothing.

Incredibly annoying when you don't want to start a war with a minor power in a far off region when I don't have enough resources to deal with it.

[Vor]

Ariminum was invaded by Delmatae, a war I'm only fighting because my client state was invaded.

I'd crush them, but the bloody client state has a blockade of their homeland and then, before I could retake Ariminum, they blockaded that too. I don't want to attack my client state, but I can't afford to be without Ariminum. The Liguria to the North have a large empire and are attacking into Italy every turn, but I can't send my full might against them because I have to have a legion to defend against the Delmatae raids that also turn up every turn. So very frustrating.

[GaMMwl]

A land army should be able to capture the city while a third party fleet was blockading it...

[karamazovmm]

the problem here is a question of mechanics, its simple a blockade = siegethe only way to solve this satisfactorily would be to tweak the ai to attack the settlementin the end mass blockades are a good strategy

[Kraxis]

"Alright gentlemen, the march through the desert was rough on the men, but we have arrived. It will be a rude shock to the perfidious Punic merchants to find us at their walls. Glory and plunder awaits; now lets go assemble the men..."
"Legatus Cornelius sir! I bring tidings from the city of Iol."
"Excellent, my good man. I trust the city lies unaware of our approach?"
"Ehrm, yes... I... well..."
"Speak up man!"
"Our allies, the Massilians have a ship controlling the approaches to the port..."
"WHAT?!? For the love of Roma! Call off the attack! How are we supposed to get in now?"

[cevap]

God this is annoying, Im waiting to take Apollonia for 30 turns now and the blockade doesnt seem to end. Epirus has the city now but is blockaded by both Rome and Syracuse and then the faction north of Apollonia joined, this has no end it seems.

If I make them my client state will Epiruses wars end?

[rekishiotaku]

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Rome is blockading the last hold out of Libya, they've blockaded it for some 10 years yet haven't tried to assault the city, and worse I can't either.