tanks vanish after a battle

[duerker von eden]

so iv been playing and when ever i have tanks in an army after a battle even if they didnt die they vanish from my army. there unit card is gone and when i try another battle thay are still gone. i was wandering are they 1 time use or is this a bug/glitch

[King Sama]

Did any of the tank crewmen die? This could be due to their small unit size. What (NTW) unit size are you playing on?

If anyone else has experienced this problem, please speak up.

[AzureNight]

I've had this problem with tanks and MG bunkers. Even if they don't lose anyone in a battle, they disappear after due to the small unit size.

[IGdood]

Yeah since the early total war games for campaign if a unit has 5 men or less after a battle they disappear from the map.

It's one reason why keeping flamethrowers alive is so hard

[duerker von eden]

im gana look to see how many men a tank can hold so it can be realistic hopfully it says 6.

[Aanker]

There are two possible solutions for this problem: one is to increase the number of tanks and thereby the men in the unit, the other is to have the same number of tanks but increase the crewmen/tank ratio by a lot.

[duerker von eden]

ok so the A7V holds 17 and MKII holds 8 so i think they can be incresed to 6. so there not all over the place. and idk about the bunkers but atleast 6 could make it beter so there not 1 time use.

[duerker von eden]

well more then 1 tank in a unit could be over powerd due to the female with MGs = 50 kills in 5 seconds. but it could be usfull if theres ton of patriot levys

[zylyithe]

this happens to the bunker, sniper, tank and something else (i forgot the other things)

[duerker von eden]

ya as long as its under or at 5 men it will go away as if they all died. hopfully this will get patched so money isnt waisted on tanks and bunkers.

[Massive_attack]

In general it would be cool to see units of three tanks or bunkers etc on higher unit scales. It would suit the 'epic' tone. Maybe even squadrons of four for whippets? I dont know, that could be OP. I just really love these new specialist units!

[duerker von eden]

ya the female tanks and whippet are MG tanks and act like shotguns they do a ton of moral damage at point blank and kill units off fast. would be really OP unless the AI are more aggresive

[zylyithe]

kind of weird but i started doing some tests. and in one observation i noted that when groups of 4 tanks fight a basic enemy defense (in terms of sieges) that the tanks would take no loses however after the battle three of the 4 tanks disappeared. after recreating this multiple times the cases was the same. (i have too much time on my hands D: )

[Col. Tartleton]

Tanks should be in troops or companies IMO since the infantry are in companies or battalions.

[Aanker]

In 5.1.2 the tanks will now come in pairs. Bunkers will have an increased number of soldiers.

If the issue remains we will have to portion out four tanks per unit; that will mean less flexibility in which tank ratios (male/female/light) you like, though.

[AzureNight]

Awesome! Don't think anyone will complain about more tanks.

[nilloc93]

would it not be possible to simply ram 20 crewmen in a tank so that they don't die after a battle?

[AzureNight]

I'd rather have more tanks honestly. The female tanks are powerful against infantry but the tanks aren't that overpowered either; a few field gun barrages is all it takes to put them out of action. Aanker, have you also fixed the bug where the crew of a tank is still alive if you blow it up?