The Great War 5.1 | Screenshots & Videos

[Europa Revolta Identita]

Nice screenshots olipro!

[Poetic Pariah]

A few weeks back, I got this crazy hankering to work on a few nations and the color of their uniforms. Prior, I had edited some uniforms, but it was mostly Spain. Going deeper, I changed the color, the design, did as much as I could and made Spain feel quite unique to me though a tad ahistorical. However, after I felt to go for a more historic approach to a lot of the neglected smaller nations (and also France some). I got a lot of my 'inspiration' from the research thread. Some nations were only described verbally, so there were a few guesstimates with my own influence placed upon them. I decided since the announcement of a new kepi for France to share some of what I've done and gain a bit of insight on what should be different, how it should be different, and any available input can be had. Thus, I've taken some screenshots and uploaded them. How do you think I did?

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The first nation I edited was Denmark. It was mostly fine from the get go, and the "basic" editing was very small. To be fair, I don't even recall what I changed. However, the Elite infantry, late uniforms, and Cav is a bit more obvious. Note, I use the elite uniform for assault infantry.

Danish Basic

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Danish Elite

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Danish Cavalry

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Danish Elite Cavalry

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Danish Late

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Next nation was Switzerland, an nation I'm fond of due to the sole fact that they have a history of neutrality.

Swiss Basic.

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Swiss Elite.

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Swiss Late.

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I eventually got inclined to alter France, not because I wanted them to be historically accurate but because the maroon or whatever they had got to me. Aanker recently said they were changing the colors to amend that so I can't tell you how content I was to hear that. This might be close to what we'll see in 5.2.

French Basic Infantry.

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French Elite Infantry. This probably won't be what 5.2 will have because the pants are white. All I really did was give the elite infantry red trim, but I like the idea that they'd be visually different from basic French infantry because they're... you know... Elite.

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French Light Infantry.

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French Marine Infantry.

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French Militia. Not originally any different from the basic French infantry, but I was a bit encouraged to change them to Gendarmerie which has light blue pants. So, not much of a change.

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French Hussars.

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French Cuirassier. I toned the black down. Was bright black, if that makes sense.

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French Spahis. I liked their earlier uniform far more, so this is personal preference. Got it as close as possible, but alas... there is no turban.

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French Artillery.

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The next nation was Portugal. A lot of the late infantry lacked the broadie, so I ended up just making them use the same uniform as their British counterparts. It's really lazy, but I don't care. Oh, and I changed their grey to be more blueish.

New and Improved Portuguese Uniform.

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Next was the Netherlands. I believe they simply had grey uniforms, so I included a light blue trim. I REALLY wanted to make it orange and I still might. If anyone knows if orange would be better, let me know.

Netherlands

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Norway was only described as dark blue uniforms. That's not enough for ANYTHING so I ended up making their uniform the blue on the Norwegian flag with red on the Norwegian flag. Very Patriotic.

Norway.

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Belgium. Luxembourg, really. They had blue uniforms earlier on with white pants. It's sorta like that, save with an adrian helmet.

Luxembourgish Infantry

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There are a few more, but the edits are very small like Poland and Sweden.

However, there is one more. The grand and most splendid nation of them all... Spain! Though, to note... or even to warn... These uniforms are NOT accurate in anyway, save for the use of the German Militia cap. Beyond that? Completely inaccurate. And there is a reason for that. I prefer to keep my units close to what their counterparts were in NTW Vanilla. I edited the uniforms to make them more suitable for me (so they weren't accurate then, either, but they were more realistic in a sense). So, prepare for a lot of white jackets.

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Spanish Basic.

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Spanish Light Infantry.

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Spanish Regulares. They use the same uniform colors as the guerrilla units. Mostly, as the trim varied from what sort of guerrilla unit they were so they simply have the brown jackets.

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Spanish Marine. Note how they don't use Adrian Helmets but the Broadie. Reason for this is because I felt the Broadie had a more aggressive look to it and would fit the charging up a beach idea perfectly, so I included it with assault infantry as well.

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Spanish Engineer.

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Spanish Basic Assault (applies to Shotgunners, Light Machinegunners, and units that spawn anywhere on the map with a non-unique weapon).

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Spanish Experimental Assault (for all unique weapons, like Flamethrowers or Rifle Grenades).

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Spanish Sniper.

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Spanish Guard (Old and Late. Note the Creative Liberty.)

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Spanish Militia.

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Spanish Hussars. Originally, the hussars in my game had white trim, but it was close enough to the historical image to completely ignore changing the trim, so I decided to make this unit the only accurate unit in the Spanish Roster.

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Spanish Lancers. The yellow pants are now white for all cavalry.

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Spanish Dragoons.

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Spanish Rifle Cavalry.

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Spanish Mounted Infantry.

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Spanish Guard Cavalry.

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Spanish Artillery.

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Spanish Forward Artillery (formally Horse Artillery).

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Spanish Gas Mortars.

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Spanish Mortars. I figured since their close enough to the front line, they'd be infantry sort of but still artillery thus white with blue trim.

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Now... I'm aware they are super bright. And because that doesn't sell when we want historical accuracy... I also made a more historical friendly form of the uniforms but I maintained at minimum the trim because I hate solid uniform colors. I also hate when the top matches the bottom because it feels like they're wearing pyjamas. But, I overcame some of these pet peeves to make this.

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Spanish Basic

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Spanish Light Infantry (I actually changed the green trim to be more accurate and likely. It's FAR brighter).

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Spanish Regulares. They use tan uniforms because the African uniform used khaki. The pants are still red but only because it corresponds with the fez and that HAS to be red, imho. I can change their pants to make it work, but in the meantime this suits me.

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Spanish Marines.

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Spanish Assault (anyone who can deploy anywhere pretty much gets this, regardless of weapon type).

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Spanish Late Elite (I'm keeping the damn cuirass! >:C).

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Spanish Militia.

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Spanish Lancers. Mind you, the pickelhaube is sorta accurate, though the Lancers and Dragoons are actually using slightly earlier uniforms than their supposed to. I thought this would be more interesting.

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Spanish Dragoons.

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Spanish Rifle Cavalry (also Mounted Infantry).

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Spanish Artillery.

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Some units, such as the Mounted Guard, don't change.

Ignoring that, if I DID maintain the historically accurate theme... I'd feel a bit inclined to change the helmets of most of the units. I heard that later they had a stahlhelm like helmet without the visor so if I changed the mid to late units to use the stalhelm it might not be that accurate but considering the Rif War from right after and how their allies were France in that little conflict, they might need to stick to Adrians (and SOLELY Adrians). So if you have any advice on that, I'd appreciate it.

[B-DizL]

Excellent work man

Apparently im not allowed to give anyone rep any more

[Poetic Pariah]

Was it something I said, maybe?

Kidding, kidding. After doing some 'research' by going to wikipedia and searching for "Spanish Helmet" I quickly read and discovered that Spain did NOT in fact wear the morion at this time. So, after doing more research by looking up the actual helmets (stalhelm and adrian), I discovered that Spain may have actually had... both. Wikipedia claims that they purchased a bunch of German helmets after the war but I didn't check their source. They were also supplied with Adrians as a lot of nations were. So for now, all late units were given German helmets with the exception of the elite infantry. I'm not sure why, but I don't think I like it and may just switch them all back to Adrians as soon as I can (including assault and marine infantry). I've been meaning to give them belts because the references had belts that crossed over their chests, which is weird for this time as everyone started to use harnesses instead. The Regulares all have putties now so they no longer have red pants, save for the officer. Might give him putties, too.

I'll probably end up doing all that before I go to bed tonight. I'll have to see if there are brown belts available in the mod. I know there are black belts but that's it as far as I can tell but I'm optimistic. Worse case scenario, it matches the damn boots.

In the meantime maybe don_Durandal will see this and make suggestions if I'm wrong, about the helmets, concerning trim for Spain etc. Maybe Senpai will notice me. Uguu uguu!

Edit: I've given belts to all Spanish units (with certain belts going to certain units). That being said, this is what the current late infantry look like for Spain. As I've said, I'm not entirely sold on the Stahlhelm but maybe another opinion would be appreciated. Who knows? Maybe I have a natural bias against the Central Powers and don't want to feel obligated to join them every time I play campaign. Or maybe I don't like how they have the helmet a bit high over the brow. *shrug*

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I see alot of those cross belts in this mod, are they meant to be ammo/bullet belts? just curious

[Poetic Pariah]

Crossbelts were still used. Spain had them during this time period. Most countries used regular harnesses though.

[don_Durandal]

Spanish cavalry, artillery and officers still used shoulder belts, or "cross belts" as you call them (meaning the straps holding the havresac and ammunition pouch were slung over each shoulder and crossed over the body, giving the impression of Xs).
However infantry had equipment suspenders.

What set apart Spanish leather equipment was that the suspenders were joined low on the back, while usually these types of Y straps are joined between the scapula.

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Rear view of the Spanish and French equipment suspenders:

See here for more information on the Spanish Army.

[B-DizL]

I've begun work on some proper equipment. Germany and France are done and Ill probly do Britain and Austria too.

[Poetic Pariah]

Finally got around to changing the helmets back to the Adrians. Again, not sure what looks better or is more accurate between the two helmets for Spain. If anything, though, I'll probably settle on the Adrian.

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Howdy! The first rain here in MANY moons has put me in a grand mood. Here's some screenshots I had left over from some testing.

Shell shocked...

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BRIDGE BATTLE

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Generic Title #492

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MG Crew has Cooties, don't touch 'em.

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Also, In case any of you guys thought I was kidding about my Ottoman Generals post...

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[Alex Khan]

Verdun (1916)

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[Alex Khan]

Tannenberg(1914)

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[Aanker]

Please remember to add spoiler tags for any large images

[Alex Khan]

Gallipoli(1915)

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[B-DizL]

Great work man + rep

[foot soldier]

Im going to start for the first a campaign with this mod . I have published a video to choose the faction .
This particular campaign will be comentaded in my mother language ,portuguese,but please feel free to vote and follow if you wish .

[Poetic Pariah]

I have published a video to choose the faction .
This particular campaign will be comentaded in my mother language ,portuguese,but please feel free to vote and follow if you wish

I vote you play as Spain.

[foot soldier]

I vote you play as Spain.

Gracias por votares

[foot soldier]

1ST CHAPTER

[Poetic Pariah]

After a small amount of encouragement, I decided to keep adding onto Spain and make them more accurate. Not completely accurate as that'd mean no red trim, but it's a start. Baby steps.

As of now, I made the artillery and militia share the line infantry coloration. I also changed the German Militia cap (former kepi) to the Austrian field cap. It looks closer to the shako the Spanish had at the time so it's a better fit. I left the militia to keep the old kepi because there isn't a decent match for the Guardia Civil hat (the one that looks like balls, mind you). What I might do in the future is use the Serbian hat or the fez and use that as a mock forage cap. But, that's for later.

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If you recall (or scroll up a little bit), you'll remember that the Guardia Real had gold uniforms with a nice metal breastplate. My bias, of course, with reasoning that goes "Why the hell not?" Well, that is now a distance memory from the past. Though I'd LOVE to keep them gold, Spain wasn't very original. Everyone did blue uniforms with red trim, why deviate from this path? It looks nice, sure, but if you see it enough it gets boring. So, with slight contempt, the new Guardia Real uniform for the Old Spanish Elite.

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Using colors similar to the old Spanish uniform that I blatantly changed, I thought it would be appropriate while all other units had that green khaki crap. The dress uniform and the field uniform wasn't too different anyway. In addition, the elite horse unit that Spain has now uses the same color scheme with the addition of wearing spiked helmets, to make them far more accurate. But what about the new Guardia Real uniform? Is it also blue with red pants?

No, it's not.

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Green Khaki, red trim, with blue pants. I considered red, not going to lie. This probably isn't historically accurate at all and takes inspiration from modern Guardia Real wearing dress pants with a field jacket. Really fancy from the waste down. Clearly, they aren't in the middle of an armed conflict but blue pants won't be the defining feature if you get headshot by a sniper. It was between this and red pants and though I prefer red, all modern examples of the Guardia Real had blue pants with red trim, despite once having red pants (which is clearly superior in the fact that it makes it so it doesn't look like you're wearing pajamas). But, I have a dated way of thinking and this is more a metaphor for how you can't stop the future. Red pants one day, blue pants the next despite looking like a boring blue smear at a distance. At least use a lighter blue or something, I mean ffs. -,-

But, yeah. Blue pants with red trim and that green khaki olive top. If you're elite, people should know about it.

Now, with that being said, lets address the elephant in the room. The nicely dressed, fabulous pachyderm that is the creative liberty I've taken already. Adrian helmets, jackboots, the belts, the Austrian cap, the new tunic that is the German one in reality.

The Jackboots were chosen because they were tight around the calf and loose-ish around the thigh. If there were anything closer that didn't use black, I'd have used it. If it were a BROWN Jackboot, I'd have been all over it because some people used something similar in Spain, being the Officers and pretty much no one else. But still. If it were white, I'd prefer it too. Honestly, I just feel black is sort of overrated. I mean, the nation that should be using knee-high boots being Germany had brown at the time. The French had black boots, but I think it went up mid-calf.

But, what you going to do? It's tight around the calf and that's all I can ask for right now.

The Austrian Cap and German Tunic is mostly due to the focus being on the warring nations. I dislike how they look similar to the central powers, but working with what I can get away with. don_Durandal was kind enough to do a Spanish research into their uniforms a while back and after a lot of staring at the same picture, I finally decided that a short brim with a tall front and lowered back was available in the Austrian hat which had a shorter brim than the current kepi, a taller front than the current kepi, and a lowered back than the current kepi. Combined with the fact that the gold badge on the very top makes me think of the 1908 design when it didn't have the cover, I can kinda get behind that. As for the tunic, the small squares on the collar reminds me of the numbers and other badges and pins and things that they had. Though not many were red. Regardless, that tunic also has seven buttons. The exact same number that the Spanish tunic should have. Combined with the trim and other bits, it makes it near perfect. The exception being the harness just loops over the shoulders. But, most of the time there will be a backpack so it's a minor detail. Combined with the crossbelts, I'd say it works fine.

The Adrian Helmets? Why give Spain a helmet at all?

Well, my reasoning is more for the interwar period that will follow. Mixed with the fact that Spain was ENTIRELY neutral during that period, if war was had they'd have invested in helmets. Though they'd have been more likely to fully invest in the stahlhelm, interwar they were supposed to have quite a few Adrians. So, both are valid in this sense and I went with the Adrian out of fashion's sake.

Well, what about the trim? Well, I already mentioned how I felt about uniforms of a single color. I prefer uniforms with many colors because why not? The red trim is a bit baseless, I admit, but Cazadores seemed to have green trim. So did the Guardia Civil, who had red trim. Why can't regular infantry have trim too? Because of historical accuracy? I saw some red on a uniform somewhere once, I think it's close enough.

If someone feels I'm wrong and is strongly against any of this, let me know. If your reasoning is valid enough, I'll take it into consideration. But for now, boom. Ros been had.