Building Crash

[UndyingNephalim]

I'm getting an inconsistant crash:

21:26:13.859 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0006_UI_Panel_Settlement_Icons_Trigger> fired
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga,12332
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga,19388
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga,12332
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.859 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga,19388
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga,12332
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga,19388
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga,12332
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/units/twili/#Shadow_Messenger.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.dds
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga,19388
21:26:13.875 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/mesoamerican/buildings/#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer.tga (from: C:\Program Files\Sega\Medieval II Total War)
21:26:15.078 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

It's looking like something building related and it always happens just after a rebel turn, likely right when the player's turn starts. It's not always the same building icon that's loaded just before the crash though so I can't seem to pinpoint it to a single building. Any idea what might be causing this?

[Windrider37]

hmm ,what turn is it happening at, and as what faction? :O im gonna assume twilight

[UndyingNephalim]

hmm ,what turn is it happening at, and as what faction? :O im gonna assume twilight

It happens with any faction I play as. The turn is never the same, but it's generally between turn 5 and 15. I've rarely gotten to turn 20 before this crash happens.

[KEA]

The gap is too long between 21:26:13.875 and 21:26:15.078. So the crash would not be related to that UI file but to what the program is trying to do afterwards. What are you doing when the game crashes?

[UndyingNephalim]

The gap is too long between 21:26:13.875 and 21:26:15.078. So the crash would not be related to that UI file but to what the program is trying to do afterwards. What are you doing when the game crashes?

I'm not able to do anything, it crashes at the start of my turn right after the rebel faction finishes theirs.

[KEA]

I see. In this case it would be something related to player's turn start. Can be something with the script? Do you have any errors in the log (entire log)?

Interestingly that the game opens ui files during the AI's turn.

[UndyingNephalim]

I see. In this case it would be something related to player's turn start. Can be something with the script? Do you have any errors in the log (entire log)?


Interestingly that the game opens ui files during the AI's turn.

I've attached another log with the exact same crash, just a different faction and turn.

[Windrider37]

#mesoamerican_heavy_armourer_select.tga.ddsim seeing this over and over again in that text...maybe its a texture path thats typed incorrectly?i dunno ill poke around and see later if there is something mistyped..i had a crash problem related to textures because of one stupid little typo, on a factions turn that was trying to spawn units with the miss-typed textures.

but as i see it, that may be a problem, seeing as the onyl files listed are all textures files, and nothing else. So its worth a look into ^_^'

[stevietheconquer]

it can be a spawned ai army?just an idea as i got this too in mine personal mod,and discovered it was a ai army spawned wrong.

[UndyingNephalim]

it can be a spawned ai army?just an idea as i got this too in mine personal mod,and discovered it was a ai army spawned wrong.

What was wrong with the ai army that was spawning?

[stevietheconquer]

as i good remember,but it was some time a go, ai armies where attacking a settlement,and it where three ai armies in the same time ,with siege equipment ,two generals where scripted too attack a settlement , like script command ; siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, maintain
siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, attack

one general got script ; siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, maintain
siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, maintain

mine error was that their can only be one general with script siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, maintain
siege_settlement Damjan Juda, Ragusa, attack and not two of them

but maybe scripted army character has no name, can also make game crash, our the scripted army is attacking has own settlement and make game crash manny, things can crash game with scripted armies and then there is no log telling you so.

but it was with me surly a sripted army that was making the game crash.

xxx you can do command console toggle_fow and see the slave faction do his turn and when it ctd,before it you will see normally the army(our armies) that is making the ctd and see what is wrong,but the turns too see can be goin fast lol.

this is al i can say as i am not a real modder lol,but i think like the poster before me it got something too do with spawning army\armies.

sorry for mine bad english, and thanks for your great mod about zelda,really like it!

[Windrider37]

yes, i noticed this too. I bumped up the Stalfos Spawn time to turn 10, but when they spawn, the general has no name, and crashes when attacking anything. lol, yay scripts!
But Ai could certainly be it, and nothing to do with textures.

[UndyingNephalim]

I disabled all armies spawned for the rebel faction and I think you are right. I've made it much further into a campaign without having a crash so I'm certain it's related to the rebels. I'm going to guess the problem is with names since I spawn some rebel captains that are supposed to be wildlife with no names. I'll probably know more in a day or so.

EDIT: would moving an admiral or boat unto land in the campaign script cause a crash?

[Windrider37]

yes it would. I tried doing that cuz i had Rebels ships blockading my ports for whatever reason, so i tried moving them to a remote corner of the map, to no avail and crash. but at least you are getting somewhere now

[KEA]

I've attached another log with the exact same crash, just a different faction and turn.

That log throws out so many errors that I am wondering that the game doesn't crash every turn. You definitly need to check all those script errors that call for absent characters (or may be missing names?). EDB also needs to be looked after. Usually those building errors are not fatal, but they can produce trouble as the game proceeds and city come to upgrade.

[UndyingNephalim]

That log throws out so many errors that I am wondering that the game doesn't crash every turn. You definitly need to check all those script errors that call for absent characters (or may be missing names?). EDB also needs to be looked after. Usually those building errors are not fatal, but they can produce trouble as the game proceeds and city come to upgrade.

That log throws out so many errors that I am wondering that the game doesn't crash every turn. You definitly need to check all those script errors that call for absent characters (or may be missing names?). EDB also needs to be looked after. Usually those building errors are not fatal, but they can produce trouble as the game proceeds and city come to upgrade.

I've added a condition now to check if those characters are alive. I'm not too worried about the upgrading since upgrading settlements is disabled in this mod, or will they still cause problems regardless?


Anyway, here's a log with the crash after the changes, once again happening on the rebel turn just before mine starts:

[Windrider37]

i really dont have any idea :/
perhaps the AI is trying to build something that is glitchy, or doesnt exist? Like its is trying to make some kind of barracks, and when the next turn rolls around, the game crashes? I'm just throwing out ideas. Perhaps its trying to load a mesh or Texture that isnt there for a settlement that you made?

[UndyingNephalim]

I don't think it's buildings, I think it has something to do with the units they start out with in the descr_strat file. When I remove those the crashes completely stop. I don't think anything is wrong with their entries though:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

character    sub_faction saxons, Lord_Morada, named character, male, age 29, x 141, y 138, portrait lord_morada, battle_model hylian_captain 
army
unit        Rogue Hylians1                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Rogue Hylians1                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Rogue Hylians1                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, Halthor, named character, male, age 20, x 122, y 199, portrait general_keaton, battle_model keaton1 
army
unit        Keaton Highwaymen            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Keaton Highwaymen            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Keaton Highwaymen            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, Soldaroo, named character, male, age 29, x 48, y 152, portrait general_gerudo3 
army
unit        Marauders                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Marauders                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Marauders                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction goron, Randogoro, general, male, age 20, x 167, y 185, portrait general_goron3 
army
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction goron, Borgondo, general, male, age 20, x 166, y 200, portrait general_goron3 
army
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, King_Dodongo, named character, male, age 20, x 138, y 186, portrait king_dodongo, battle_model invisible 
army
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dodongos                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Yisoti, named character, male, age 20, x 188, y 129, portrait general_kokiri, battle_model kokiri_general 
army
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Totire, general, male, age 20, x 151, y 146, portrait general_kokiri, battle_model kokiri_general 
army
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mudmen of Faron                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Queen_Halkarus, general, male, age 20, x 64, y 185, portrait general_gohma, battle_model gohma_general 
army
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Queen_Balmus, general, male, age 20, x 84, y 219, portrait general_gohma, battle_model gohma_general 
army
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Gohma Larva                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Vobonusl, named character, male, age 20, x 145, y 85, portrait general_ordona, battle_model ordona_general 
army
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Farmer Archers                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Ronusl, general, male, age 20, x 87, y 44, portrait general_ordona, battle_model ordona_general 
army
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Farmer Archers                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Randono, general, male, age 20, x 76, y 74, portrait general_ordona, battle_model ordona_general 
army
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Ordonian Farmers            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Farmer Archers                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Takaria, named character, male, age 20, x 205, y 191, portrait general_zora, battle_model zora_general 
army
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Tamaruto, named character, male, age 20, x 179, y 244, portrait general_lanayru, battle_model lanayru_general 
army
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Tagsokos, general, male, age 20, x 223, y 199, portrait general_lanayru, battle_model lanayru_general 
army
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Conscripts                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Oh_hi_mar, named character, male, age 20, x 250, y 167, portrait general_deku, battle_model deku_general 
army
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_To_be_kon, general, male, age 20, x 228, y 132, portrait general_deku, battle_model deku_general 
army
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Ar_uh_gor, general, male, age 20, x 212, y 143, portrait general_deku, battle_model deku_general 
army
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Forest Scrubs                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Grushanon, general, male, age 20, x 39, y 60, portrait general_moblin, battle_model moblin_general 
army
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Gesablin, general, male, age 20, x 18, y 82, portrait general_moblin, battle_model moblin_general 
army
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Tanrulon, general, male, age 20, x 32, y 95, portrait general_moblin, battle_model moblin_general 
army
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mob of Moblins                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Zarocron, named character, male, age 20, x 16, y 152, portrait general_darknut, battle_model darknut_general 
army
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Vandathon, general, male, age 20, x 28, y 111, portrait general_darknut, battle_model darknut_general 
army
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Erwecron, general, male, age 20, x 25, y 182, portrait general_darknut, battle_model darknut_general 
army
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Dishonored                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Bosrokot, named character, male, age 20, x 175, y 120, portrait general_lizalfos, battle_model lizalfos_general 
army
unit        Treehopper                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Treehopper                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Treehopper                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Yalokosh, general, male, age 20, x 166, y 90, portrait general_lizalfos, battle_model lizalfos_general 
army
unit        Treehopper                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Treehopper                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Tokalonalph, named character, male, age 20, x 276, y 163, portrait general_labrynna, battle_model labrynna_general 
army
unit        Tokay Slaves                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Tokay Hunters                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Tokay Hunters                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Olboribi, general, male, age 20, x 273, y 136, portrait general_labrynna, battle_model labrynna_general 
army
unit        Cannon Fodder                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Cannon Fodder                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Cannon Fodder                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Koribi, general, male, age 20, x 283, y 78, portrait general_labrynna, battle_model labrynna_general 
army
unit        Tokay Hunters                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Tokay Hunters                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Tokay Hunters                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Galonaia, named character, male, age 20, x 225, y 242, portrait general_fairy, battle_model Korrigans 
army
unit        Korrigans                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Pink Fairies                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Pink Fairies                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_MiddeeA, named character, male, age 20, x 227, y 11, portrait Middee, battle_model middee 
army
unit        Middee_camp                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Bonemold Monk                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Bonemold Monk                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Sulthis, named character, male, age 90, x 27, y 19, portrait sulthis, battle_model invisible 
army
unit        Shadow Bloat                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Insect                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Insect                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Bloat                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Insect                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Insect                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Shadow Bloat                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Ook, named character, male, age 20, x 213, y 172, portrait general_monkey, battle_model monkey_captain 
army
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Deku Monkeys                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 125, y 220, battle_model wild_arurodas, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 91, y 224, battle_model wild_arurodas, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Arurodas                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 111, y 222, battle_model wild_arurodas, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aracha                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 264, y 88, battle_model wild_ampilus, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 250, y 96, battle_model wild_ampilus, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 227, y 80, battle_model wild_ampilus, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 220, y 78, battle_model wild_ampilus, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Ampilus                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 41, y 213, battle_model wild_aneru, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
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unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 73, y 214, battle_model wild_aneru, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 48, y 192, battle_model wild_aneru, direction S 
army
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unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Aneru                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 120, y 160, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
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unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 115, y 138, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
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character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 133, y 138, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
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unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 90, y 110, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 96, y 84, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 61, y 86, battle_model peahat1, direction S 
army
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Peahats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 172, y 162, battle_model wild_skulltulla1, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 172, y 127, battle_model wild_skulltulla1, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 194, y 123, battle_model wild_skulltulla1, direction S 
army
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Wild Skulltulla1            exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 215, y 161, battle_model invisible, direction S 
army
unit        Orhats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character    sub_faction saxons, reb_Orat, general, female, age 20, x 215, y 137, battle_model invisible, direction S 
army
unit        Orhats                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Perhaps it's the fact that all the captains are using the same name?

[Windrider37]

hmm, maybe. You try removing Armies so that only 1 army spawns for each faction? Maybe see if that is indeed the case. but in the current release, there are captains with the same name all the time D=

[KEA]

I don't think it's buildings, I think it has something to do with the units they start out with in the descr_strat file. When I remove those the crashes completely stop. I don't think anything is wrong with their entries though:

So the crash happens at the first rebel turn? This would indeed narrow things down dramatically. Now, the units themselves would hardly be the problem because in this case the game wouldn't load at all but throw you back to main menue with a proper error message. It would rather be something the AI is trying to do with said units - what also would explain that the crash inconsistant (descr_strat is always the same and that way would always produce the error).

Try the following: use toggle_fow and set the display to "follow AI movements". Then you have to watch the AI until the crash happens. Check which stack is causing the trouble and remove it.