Official ICENI praising thread :)

[Cvetko]

Hello, I recently recieved some constructive criticism that I praise Parthia too much in my threads, but hell no, I just tell the facts, none of my threads was a bout praising that GREAT EMPIRE SWAG faction.


So ICENI, no kidding, kid; Iceni are a good choice for an in game faction, among all barbarian factions I think Im gonna preffer the Iceni most of all, because they have a good island setting, CELTIC CHARIOTS, and ofcourse a mild blue colour code just as blue as Kim Kardashiens beutifull eyes

And, they are close to stonehenge, have Boudica, a woman as their special character, so... Probably nice ships too, britania rooles the wawes and all that, so they are a perfect choice by CA for an unique barberien faction.

Trust me, ull enjoy playing as Iceni, my humple person surely will...

[Sandraker]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M

[TotalWarker]

Cannot wait to play these guys. Will be my first faction probably, well either them or the Germanic barbarians. Would be great to know a little more info on things like the unit roster, naval units, diplomacy and politics of these guys.

[Mamertine]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M

Why do all the Iceni have Jersey Shore haircuts? Am I the only ones that noticed that?

[Rhellic]

As someone new to this forum, what's all this iceni hate about anyway?Seems to be like a meme here.

[the count]

dunno some people find that they are not "historically accurate" or something.

Iceni are not my most favorite faction but it would be weird excluding a British tribe. Besides due to their position I think they will make a fine faction for new players of the game.

[Sandraker]

Isn't it that the Iceni weren't very relevant in Britain during R2's timeframe (at least at the start)?

[Mamertine]

As someone new to this forum, what's all this iceni hate about anyway?Seems to be like a meme here.

Because the Iceni was a small and insignificant tribe at the time of the game and was only relevant hundreds of years later but CA decided to put them in as a British faction because they are a British company and/or people have heard of Queen Boudicca. I could go into more detail, but that is the gist. Because of these reasons many here consider them a fake faction or are in for marketing reasons. The same argument has also been made about the Suebi for largely the same reasons (with the exception of CA not also being a German company) only replace Boudicca with Teutoberg.

[biohazardcake]

I don't know about realism but woad warriors + chariots + boats= invasion of rome seems like fun.

[The Great Montrose]

Iceni will be the best faction, cool chariots, brilliant island starting position, barbarian hordes. I honestly cant wait to play as them.

[Rhellic]

Because the Iceni was a small and insignificant tribe at the time of the game and was only relevant hundreds of years later but CA decided to put them in as a British faction because they are a British company and/or people have heard of Queen Boudicca. I could go into more detail, but that is the gist. Because of these reasons many here consider them a fake faction or are in for marketing reasons. The same argument has also been made about the Suebi for largely the same reasons (with the exception of CA not also being a German company) only replace Boudicca with Teutoberg.

Huh. I guess I understand about the Iceni, but aren't the Suebi pretty well attested as one of the major powers among the germanic peoples at the time?

[DogSoldierSPQR]

Because the Iceni was a small and insignificant tribe at the time of the game and was only relevant hundreds of years later but CA decided to put them in as a British faction because they are a British company and/or people have heard of Queen Boudicca. I could go into more detail, but that is the gist. Because of these reasons many here consider them a fake faction or are in for marketing reasons. The same argument has also been made about the Suebi for largely the same reasons (with the exception of CA not also being a German company) only replace Boudicca with Teutoberg.

Your comment is not accurate whatsoever. There was a British faction in RTW1, so there will be one RTW2. It doesn't take too much logic figuring that out. Jack mentioned previously that "Nationalism played no role in our decision". There was always going to be a British faction in there. Just like the Arverni replace the previous Gaul faction and the Suebi replace the previous Germanic faction.

Get over your hate for the Iceni. As I've said time and time again, the Iceni had a massive impact on the Roman occupation of Britain and this game is about the Romans and their point of view overall.

[Spartacus041]

I'm pretty excited to ride my chariots over the corpses of Romans straight to the doors of the senate. I will exact a vast amount of tribute from all the weakling nations of the mediteranean.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Cvetko again."

[Mamertine]

Your comment is not accurate whatsoever. There was a British faction in RTW1, so there will be one RTW2. It doesn't take too much logic figuring that out. Jack mentioned previously that "Nationalism played no role in our decision". There was always going to be a British faction in there. Just like the Arverni replace the previous Gaul faction and the Suebi replace the previous Germanic faction.

Get over your hate for the Iceni. As I've said time and time again, the Iceni had a massive impact on the Roman occupation of Britain and this game is about the Romans and their point of view overall.

My comment is extremely accurate. I was asked why people on this forum do not like the Iceni and I told em exactly what it is people say and gave their reasons why. I know CA already addressed the nationalism thing, but most others do not. And the Iceni did not have a massive impact on the Roman occupation of Britannia, an impact yes, but not massive. That honor is left for the Picts. There is no doubt that CA has some of these factions in Rome 2 (and Rome 1) for marketing reasons, though and it would be dumb from a business standpoint not to.

I have no hate for the Iceni. Calm down fanboy.

[Serkelet]

Your comment is not accurate whatsoever. There was a British faction in RTW1, so there will be one RTW2. It doesn't take too much logic figuring that out. Jack mentioned previously that "Nationalism played no role in our decision". There was always going to be a British faction in there. Just like the Arverni replace the previous Gaul faction and the Suebi replace the previous Germanic faction.

Get over your hate for the Iceni. As I've said time and time again, the Iceni had a massive impact on the Roman occupation of Britain and this game is about the Romans and their point of view overall.

Yeah, you're totally right. Just as also the Seleucids replaced Rome 1 Seleucids... wait a minute...

[Mamertine]

Huh. I guess I understand about the Iceni, but aren't the Suebi pretty well attested as one of the major powers among the germanic peoples at the time?

The game is going to start around 270ishBC, the battle of Teutoberg Forest was almost 300 years later at 9AD. A better faction, imo, would have been the Cimbrians due to their wars with the Romans and the impact they had at the time as well as the relevance of when it happened. These wars were one of the bigger threats to Rome pre-Imperial and brought about the Marian reforms, the biggest changes in the Roman army for hundreds of years, possibly ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimbrian_War

[Mamertine]

Yeah, you're totally right. Just as also the Seleucids replaced Rome 1 Seleucids... wait a minute...

Don't forget "Spain", Numidia, Thrace...

[DogSoldierSPQR]

My comment is extremely accurate. I was asked why people on this forum do not like the Iceni and I told em exactly what it is people say and gave their reasons why. I know CA already addressed the nationalism thing, but most others do not. And the Iceni did not have a massive impact on the Roman occupation of Britannia, an impact yes, but not massive. That honor is left for the Picts. There is no doubt that CA has some of these factions in Rome 2 (and Rome 1) for marketing reasons, though and it would be dumb from a business standpoint not to.

I have no hate for the Iceni. Calm down fanboy.

Nope, your comment is not accurate.
If Paulinus's legion was defeated, that would've have been the end of Roman occupation in Britain. Forget the picts, they didn't burn down any cities, they didn't massacre Roman civilians and families and burn down the capital, the Iceni did.
Out of all the British tribes, the Iceni were the ones who had the Romans on the edge. The picts were resisting and it was hard to get to them in their highland areas, but no way in hell did they have an impact on the Romans like the Iceni did. There was nothing up there of any value for the Romans so they could not be bothered putting any effort in pursuing that campaign. Fanboy? You do know there is SPQR in my name...and we are talking about the Iceni?

@Serkelet Selucids are irrelevant in this conversation.

[Doe3000]

I think the Iceni are just a stepping stone to creating a greater 'Britons' faction. The same applies to the Arverni / Gauls and Suebi/ Germans. I think CA chose them not just because of Queen Boudica, but also because the Creative Assembly are located in Norfolk, which is the ancient home of the Iceni.
The rebellion led by the Iceni was the most destructive the Romans ever faced in Britain, but the Picts and the Silures were much harder opponents for the Romans to bring down (they never succeeded with the Picts, who are first mentioned by name in AD 297 by a Roman poet called Eumenius) .

[Lord Dakier]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M

That video gave me cancer...