New Bitfenix Prodigy build

[Black Fox]

I decided that seeing as I have a spare Bitfenix Prodigy case here I might as well do a mini ITX build to go with it, what do you guys think? (1920x1080 monitor) +rep for anyone that can help!


ASUS P8Z77-I DELUXE

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Intel Core i5 3570K (hoping to overclock to 4.2-.4.4) Worried about Ivy Bridges sketchy temperatures

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO

8GB Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Low Profile

Samsung 840 Series 250GB (I have a 500gb hard drive + 500gb external drive)

GeForce GTX 770 WINDFORCE 2GB

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550W SilverStone Strider Gold

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(I already have windows 7)

[karamazovmm]

its a good idea, its a bad SSD, the crucial m500 480gb I have seen it constantly hitting 300ish

aside that it looks solid, get a decent cooler though

[Black Fox]

Ok i'll go for the crucial m500, I heard that the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO is quite good what would you call a decent cooler?

[Freddie]

I've been looking at doing a Bixfenix build but I want to water it which means getting a new reservoir and trying to work out how I'm going to control my pump which is currently hooked up to a fan controller.

Good luck and let us know how you get on and what the acoustics are like.

[Totalheadache]

cant see much wrong really. although the cpu cooler is ok but small case and trying to push a high overclock on the cpu.....

tbh am not sure, i have doubts. i know crazyeye like the hyper 212....and from what i have seen it's a good performer for the money.

make sure the 770 you have chosen exhausts the heat outside of the case....

p.s i personally go for relatively crap cpu and no overclocking for mini itx builds...you know more of a media center. anything i can overclock i stick in a full tower...

[Black Fox]

I've been looking at doing a Bixfenix build but I want to water it which means getting a new reservoir and trying to work out how I'm going to control my pump which is currently hooked up to a fan controller.

Good luck and let us know how you get on and what the acoustics are like.

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I was thinking of doing a water system but from what i've seen it means more costs and its much easier just to slap on a air cooler.

cant see much wrong really. although the cpu cooler is ok but small case and trying to push a high overclock on the cpu.....

tbh am not sure, i have doubts. i know crazyeye like the hyper 212....and from what i have seen it's a good performer for the money.

make sure the 770 you have chosen exhausts the heat outside of the case....

p.s i personally go for relatively crap cpu and no overclocking for mini itx builds...you know more of a media center. anything i can overclock i stick in a full tower...

You can do some excellent overclocks with mini itx's now, that motherboard for example was made for it. The Bitfenix Prodigy also has space for 2 top mounted 120 mm fans + 230 mm front fan + 140 mm rear fan so it will well ventilated.

[bthizle1]

And assuming one doesn´t want to overclock? I´m considering building a mini itx system as well, for around $700.....but currently have no idea as to the hardware.

[Totalheadache]

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I was thinking of doing a water system but from what i've seen it means more costs and its much easier just to slap on a air cooler.




You can do some excellent overclocks with mini itx's now, that motherboard for example was made for it. The Bitfenix Prodigy also has space for 2 top mounted 120 mm fans + 230 mm front fan + 140 mm rear fan so it will well ventilated.

hey dont get me wrong am not saying a complete no but let's say i have reservations about mini-itx plus decent overclocks....find some reviews if you can..

[AqD]

It may work but risky.

My Mini-ITX comp has i3-3240 and AMD Radeon HD7770 inside SilverStone, at peak the CPU temp could reach 75C and GPU 75C (tested by IntelBurnTest and msi Kombustor). The CPU fan is stock so its temp may be nothing to worry about, but GPU temp is dangerous. Overheat/shutdown is not impossible if you use better GPU.

[karamazovmm]

you are using the FT03, the matx version, that doesnt have good airflow, best thing is for you to mod that and consider that each case has its strengths and downsides

[AqD]

nah, FT03 is the one at work. At my room I have SG05.

But I thought FT03 is superior? It sucks air from bottom and expel from top. Are there better cases?

[karamazovmm]

the ft03 mini is actually superior to its big brother, and you really need to make a real effort of cable routing with those towers

the concept behind those 2 is similar, however the implementation is different. A good thing that one can do is to place a small fan on the top of the case as well.

[Biggus Splenus]

its a good idea, its a bad SSD, the crucial m500 480gb I have seen it constantly hitting 300ish

aside that it looks solid, get a decent cooler though

That SSD is great. That cooler is decent, it's amazing for the price actually.

[karamazovmm]

That SSD is great. That cooler is decent, it's amazing for the price actually.

no it isnt. it has low consistency, it has low endurance (not that the nands will fail, the performance will just tank), and the list goes on

[Black Fox]

Is the 840 really that bad? I heard some good things about it.

[karamazovmm]

yes, it behaves a little bit worse, o a lot worse than the 830, that was good at its time, but now its not even fair

[Biggus Splenus]

no it isnt. it has low consistency, it has low endurance (not that the nands will fail, the performance will just tank), and the list goes on

That low consistency is probably 0.2 seconds difference from the Pro version, nothing that can be picked up on with day to day use. The TLC NAND is not as re-writeable as what the Pro uses, but every bit can still be re-written thousands of time, which is more than enough for 99% of people. I think the list stops about there, apart from it using about 2 watts more than the Pro.

I heard some good things about it.

That's because it's the best choice for a budget. It gives the best reliability, capacity and performance for the price. The Pro version of it is the best on the market, that's why it's so expensive, which is obviously not what a typical gamer needs.

yes, it behaves a little bit worse, o a lot worse than the 830, that was good at its time, but now its not even fair

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/532?vs=678
Both have their ups and downs, 840 has more ups though, and considering that it uses less power, well, that's even better. These are just benchmarks though, and in the real world, the difference can barely, if ever, be seen. Prove me wrong and buy an 840 and 830 SSD and do a movie on it.

[karamazovmm]

ah no, when you get a real SSD you will see that the consistency matters, suddenly your system feels like you have a HDD instead of a SSD.

performance tanks on the 840 when it reaches around 40tb, its a slow descent from the factory status (20tb is already half the speed), however when that 40tb is reached, you have the performance of a good HDD. you simply just invested big bucks on something that is a goner, I have written 40tb of data in 6 months, its by far not a large number

also no one in their right minds would purchase a 120gb ssd, it doest populate all the channels, not only that you have a very small spare area and if you set aside some overprovisioning there is nothing much left for you to play with

im not even going to enter in the argument of durability of the nand that adds performance loss, you will probably see the controller fail before the nand gives out anyway

[Biggus Splenus]

you will probably see the controller fail before the nand gives out anyway

I'll hold you to that.

[AqD]

ah no, when you get a real SSD you will see that the consistency matters, suddenly your system feels like you have a HDD instead of a SSD.

performance tanks on the 840 when it reaches around 40tb, its a slow descent from the factory status (20tb is already half the speed), however when that 40tb is reached, you have the performance of a good HDD. you simply just invested big bucks on something that is a goner, I have written 40tb of data in 6 months, its by far not a large number

How do you know how much have been written??