Family stopped breeding

[Paulus Rubio]

Hello!

I apologize in advance if this issue has a thread already. I have been searching, but I didn't find anything helpful.

Anyway, my problem is as the title stated, My family will not breed anymore.

Im playing Stainless Steel v 6.4 with Kingdom of Aragon (love the game AND the faction), but I haven't had an offspring for about 30 years.
There are two major problems:
1. Some of my prime-aged generals (with balls full of little swimmers) aren't even married yet. One of them are on a campaign against the Moors, but he's been in a castle every couple of turn. Two of my other General\Governors are in settlements just waiting to be courted.
2. The family members who actually are married, still haven't produced any offspring. One of them has a wife with an Uncharming trait, and yet another family member is out on a campaign against the Leonese, but I do have some that's happily married (!)and in their prime time but still doesn't function as a couple!

Does anyone have any tips? Is there a medieval condom they keep using? Are my family too inbred? Or just too lazy? Do I need to import some aphrodisiacs from the far east?

[valky]

The family tree's progress depends on the number of settlements you own. So if you adopted a lot, this certainly lowers the chance of getting children (and/or wifes?), if you also only slowly advance for new territories.
Though, adoptions are fine at the very beginning, and by the time I typically start conquering for more regions, the children messages keep popping up ^^ (and so do the marriage proposals)

[KingCnut]

I have the same issue playing as Romans. Have had no adoption offers or children since I actually started the game, still stuck with the original royal family for like 50 turns, and they are dying out now. I also have like 40 or so regions.

[tudor93]

I have the same issue playing as Romans. Have had no adoption offers or children since I actually started the game, still stuck with the original royal family for like 50 turns, and they are dying out now. I also have like 40 or so regions.

Yeah, we all have this problem. The game just doesn't want you to keep the royal bloodline pure and forces you to adopt non-royal-blooded generals and doesn't give any marriage offers for your single male FM.
That's why we have this awesome submod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...RLC%29-for-6-4.
Also, give your FM via the console the Fertile trait (give it both to your female FM and your male FM). Also, you should give the male FM that are already married the WifeIsFertile trait. REMEMBER: IT'S NOT CHEATING!

[Strengelicher]

These discussions come up again and again. Strangely, I have never encountered this problem. My family tree has always been fine. Maybe this is because I hardly ever adopt generals into the family. Also, I never recruit simple generals, but rely entirely on family growth. And lastly, I always try to expand, but only slowly. Maybe there is something magical in that mixture. Or I have simply been lucky until now...

[Sint]

I had this problem in my current HRE campaign.

You should try to marry your Leader /Heir to other factions princesses.
Use a diplomat on the princess and ask them for marrigage.

[KingCnut]

I haven't even had any adoption offers is their a way of forcing an adoption offer via console? I think it might be too late my faction leader's wife is like 70!

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Here is what you should do to maximize the control you have over your family tree:

1. Never adopt/accept man of the hour
2. Never marry the princesses that dont appear on the map(AKA all the princesses that are daughters of everyone but the FH and FL)
3. (Optional) Edit a line in one file(forgot which one) to have your daughters retire at 25 - 30, so they clear up the family tree.
4. Install RLC submod
5. Install the NHA submod
6. Only recruit generals from castles when you have a serious lack of generals and dont recruit more than 2 - 3
7. Do inbreeding, marry cousins, aunts etc, the game dosent recognize that they are related, so the chance of having kids with inbred traits stays the same as if you married 2 unrelated characters(its only 1%).

8. You should try to marry your Leader /Heir to other factions princesses.
Use a diplomat on the princess and ask them for marriage.

Doing all of this will severely hamper your generals count for the first ~70 turns, but they will all see plenty of action and their kids will greately benefit from the fathers high stats, so in a couple of generations you'll end up with excelent generals at an early age + you get to keep the same surname and the blood trait, which is also a bonus if you want to RP a bit.

[valky]

Is RLC finally working for Byzantium Empire? Checked only like ~2 weeks ago and got the Robin Hood Archer unit instead and nothing happened at all.
Might give it another try in a clean new (other) campaign including NHA.

[Paulus Rubio]

Thanks for all the answers. I don't know what happened, but after 30 years, they suddenly started breeding again. I think I got 3 infants in the last 5 turns. But I do find it curious that noone wants to marry my princesses that does not appear on the map. What exactly does the RLC and the NHA submod do? And I guess they are not savegame compatible.

I will also start to give generals and their wives the fertile trait.

But just to clarify; Does the geographical position of my family-members and generals in any way effect the chance of having children. Will they have a reduced chance if they're in a castle, or out in the field fighting or besieging enemies?

[Viperidae]

The same seems to prioritize single females over single males. In a campaign I played, I faced much the same issues as you did, with a dying bloodline due to everyone except one being 60+ (all unmarried). After all of the princesses I had were unfertile due to age, however, I got plenty of generic marriage offers.

The obvious solution is to marry someone to your princess, then find him a nice enemy stack to kill him off with, preferable before he manages to create more unwanted offspring.

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

I forgot to mention that the number of generals/FM's the game allows you to have is tied to the amount of provinces you own, so if you have taken quite a few lately it would explain the sudden births. And as Viper already stated the game for whatever reason prioritizes singles females over singles males which is pretty stupid as well, thats why you should set the retirement age for princesses to something between 25 and 30 so that they get cleared off the family tree and allow for more males or generic marriage offers.

[valky]

What exactly does the RLC and the NHA submod do? And I guess they are not savegame compatible.

Next Heir Ancillary & Royal Lady of the Court.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-(RLC)-for-6-4
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-%28Updated%29

You can set the crown to some family member, which will be the next heir instead of some random one. Wise to check the explanation on the page It's kinda weird, what you can and what you can't do.
RLC lets you "recruit" a princess...

Both are not savegame-compatible.

[tudor93]

And as Viper already stated the game for whatever reason prioritizes singles females over singles males which is pretty stupid as well, thats why you should set the retirement age for princesses to something between 25 and 30 so that they get cleared off the family tree and allow for more males or generic marriage offers.

That's awesome, how can I do that?

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

That's awesome, how can I do that?

I honsetly dont remember myself, because i havent played in a long time, but this thread should help you with most of the questions you have, if not just revive it. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...aching-manhood

[Kaiser Nonsense]

I have the same issue playing as Romans. Have had no adoption offers or children since I actually started the game, still stuck with the original royal family for like 50 turns, and they are dying out now. I also have like 40 or so regions.

What Romans? There are no Romans in SS, do you mean the Pope Or the Holy Roman Empire?

[Steward Denethor II]

^ I think he means the Byzantines.

[Kaiser Nonsense]

^ I think he means the Byzantines.

Byzantines aren't Romans, it would be a shame call that the Romans. They are a disgrace that barely stood Turkish attacks, and their culture was more of a Greek one than Roman. The level of military failure the Byzantium had is not what you would expect of a Roman Legion, certainly not under the command of someone great like Caesar or Augustus, even Caligula was a better leader than those Byzantines ever had. Not to mention they didn't even have Rome or any Roman people in their "Empire".

[poisoned goat]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...n-roman-empire

You should travel back in time to defend these once-mighty empires from these "heathens" that you so despise. Their military legacy (or lack thereof) has absolutely nothing to do with their name. If they wanted to call themselves Shining Unicorns Riding on Purple Gazelles, no one's gonna stop them.

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Funny thing its, they were called "The Romans" or "The Roman Empire" in earlier SS versions and if you are paying attention to details, you'll still see thet the navies of Byzzies are still called "Roman navy"