This game seems to be focusing less and less on Rome ...

[PROMETHEUS ts]

The title is an unlucky choice , the actual title should be less and less on internal roman politics.


I am reading a lot of posts and threads about other enemies of rome , the battle of rome with this or that other culture ...

But seems that a lot of the interest have shifted away from the internal politics of Roman Republic that are by far more interesting than fighting a bunch of barbarians at far away the borders...

Why no focus on the civil wars , the internal struggles , the fights for power , the politics , the senate games, the cursus honorum etc ... Why all that is just beeing scrapped to favour another game were you have the X faction against the y faction?

colorfull diversion and different units on battlefield ok ... but nobody cares for the politics , the rise to power , the civil wars?

I think those are by far the most important battles and themes of the Roman age .

I think that the game should focus on Rome first and secondly on the rest .

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

[Semper_Fidelis]

Well a lot of people prefer different factions to the Romans and we have to compensate their wants as well.

[Sharpe]

Can't just cater to Roman fans.

They will be the most prominent faction (They were in both the videos so far) but why can't other factions have some importance.

[Eofor]

How dare CA acknowledge that there was more to the ancient world than the Roman Empire.

[* Matolo Swazulu *]

I am reading a lot of posts and threads about other enemies of rome , the battle of rome with this or that other culture ...

But seems that a lot of the interest have shifted away from the internal politics of Roman Republic that are by far more interesting than fighting a bunch of barbarians at far away the borders...

Why no focus on the civil wars , the internal struggles , the fights for power , the politics , the senate games, the cursus honorum etc ... Why all that is just beeing scrapped to favour another game were you have the X faction against the y faction?

colorfull diversion and different units on battlefield ok ... but nobody cares for the politics , the rise to power , the civil wars?

I think those are by far the most important battles and themes of the Roman age .

I think that the game should focus on Rome first and secondly on the rest .

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

"In total, Rome 2 will feature 183 territories, split between 117 factions. Battles will play host to approximately 500 different unit types, 30 city variants, and about 70 kinds of building. There are nearly 200 territories on the oceans."

Rome is just another faction on the map! They have more to show us about all the other factions other than Rome, so expect that to be the case in the future. If they keep on concentrating on Rome, it'll be boring playing Rome in the campaign when we receive the game as we will know everything there is to know about them!

[Toho]

are you serious OP? are you actually mad that CA is giving more focus on other factions other than Rome? are you seriously implying that this game should only have Rome as the focus? how about we only have one faction?

are you kidding me? CA has already mentioned civil wars, rebellions, Senate and politics in ALL governements.

this is by far the most dumbest thread I have ever seen.


it rivals "Romans are warlike but Carthage is a democracy?!" and the "Sandals" thread.... I mean seriously you people have GOT to stop it with these nonsense points because honestly no one wants to hear them or cares about them.

ok we got it Rome is the best, Italy is the best everyone else is crap compared to them! how DARE the other factions even be mentioned in Rome 2, there should only be 1 playable faction and 1 unplayable faction.

ROME VS REBELS TW.

**** YEA!

[Sharpe]

I am all for the main focus being on Rome - the cover art, the cinematics and perhaps the most campaign mechanics. BUT - re-playability and immersion will be greatly assisted by the well rounded development of the other factions.

"You are only as good as your last success" - Rome had many enemies, many great powerful enemies - but surely the depth and development of Rome's foes is testament to its own greatness?

[WorthyRacked]

i really just want a total war game, not a total politics one lol..

[DeadlyPhoenix]

..because it's not about replaying history, it's about changing history.

[Sherm]

I agree on the fact, that with all the information we have on roman institutions, history, and politics, should be possible create a great game with a campaign expanded on these elements. The game is called Total War, but a battle is more interesting if can have a strong context. I like the idea of playing other factions, but I think that also that can do a good work in rapresent the various aspects of Rome, can be very fun also for the more casual players.

I don't know if the game will semplified on that, i hope they try to rapresent at least in a general way the major number of things (and not only for Rome).

[HusKatten]

Although i like internal struggles, i don't believe they can be the core of the game. I think it's interesting when big civil war hits you once or twice per campaign, but it's not very satisfying to focusing and putting a lot of resources on keeping your little faction together. People wants to expand and progress, not to face internal dilemmas. It's hard for some, including me, to see both other factions and your own faction to be an enemy to yourself. It's good to have 'a place called home' in a game where everybody hates you most of the time.

I myself tend to never really play the Roman faction in RTW, simply because i prefer other cultures, fighting styles and geographical positions over the roman one. TW has been about a diversified playable faction selection since M2, so they're not really changing anything. RTW had a focus on rome, but the games after that have never had a real focus on a specific faction - and that's a lesson well learnt imo.

[eLus1on]

Looks like the lack of released information is taking it's toll on some people :p

[Seanakk]

I am reading a lot of posts and threads about other enemies of rome , the battle of rome with this or that other culture ...

But seems that a lot of the interest have shifted away from the internal politics of Roman Republic that are by far more interesting than fighting a bunch of barbarians at far away the borders...

Why no focus on the civil wars , the internal struggles , the fights for power , the politics , the senate games, the cursus honorum etc ... Why all that is just beeing scrapped to favour another game were you have the X faction against the y faction?

colorfull diversion and different units on battlefield ok ... but nobody cares for the politics , the rise to power , the civil wars?

I think those are by far the most important battles and themes of the Roman age .

I think that the game should focus on Rome first and secondly on the rest .

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

Rome has clearly been the primary focus so far, besides nothing has been scrapped because no other total war game has done what you have described.

[Birk]

Because this is a total war game, the game is about whole Roman Era, even tho they are lot of focus on the Roman faction the game won't rely on this faction alone.

[Sharpe]

What is Rome without it's enemies?

[Bethencourt]

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

It is just a commercial name. Focusing in several 'factions' does not mean that it is not enough focused in Rome. Who knows?

[bojieh]

To OP I like it how you come up with those

[familyguy1]

No response from Prometheus? Shocking...

I cant take this thread seriously because of the OP being written just to get some response out of people. You have to know that this game is set up for the period that Rome is in, not just Rome. They certainly played a big role in this period but so did others. And there you go with the baseless "barbarians" label again.

If you don't like it, mod your own to make it just Rome with rebel cities to conquer so you can fulfill your fantasy of Rome bringing "Civilization" to the" unwashed" masses.

[CnConrad]

I am reading a lot of posts and threads about other enemies of rome , the battle of rome with this or that other culture ...

But seems that a lot of the interest have shifted away from the internal politics of Roman Republic that are by far more interesting than fighting a bunch of barbarians at far away the borders...

Why no focus on the civil wars , the internal struggles , the fights for power , the politics , the senate games, the cursus honorum etc ... Why all that is just beeing scrapped to favour another game were you have the X faction against the y faction?

colorfull diversion and different units on battlefield ok ... but nobody cares for the politics , the rise to power , the civil wars?

I think those are by far the most important battles and themes of the Roman age .

I think that the game should focus on Rome first and secondly on the rest .

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

Well you know what opinions are like and how everyone has one.

Its pretty clear that the vast majority of people would rather conquer foreign lands fight easterners and barbarians than worry about spending 100 hours backstabbing and playing politics and worrying about slave revolts.

are you serious OP? are you actually mad that CA is giving more focus on other factions other than Rome? are you seriously implying that this game should only have Rome as the focus? how about we only have one faction?

are you kidding me? CA has already mentioned civil wars, rebellions, Senate and politics in ALL governements.

this is by far the most dumbest thread I have ever seen.


it rivals "Romans are warlike but Carthage is a democracy?!" and the "Sandals" thread.... I mean seriously you people have GOT to stop it with these nonsense points because honestly no one wants to hear them or cares about them.

ok we got it Rome is the best, Italy is the best everyone else is crap compared to them! how DARE the other factions even be mentioned in Rome 2, there should only be 1 playable faction and 1 unplayable faction.

ROME VS REBELS TW.

**** YEA!

Must quote for truth.

[Mithridates II the Great]

I am reading a lot of posts and threads about other enemies of rome , the battle of rome with this or that other culture ...

But seems that a lot of the interest have shifted away from the internal politics of Roman Republic that are by far more interesting than fighting a bunch of barbarians at far away the borders...

Why no focus on the civil wars , the internal struggles , the fights for power , the politics , the senate games, the cursus honorum etc ... Why all that is just beeing scrapped to favour another game were you have the X faction against the y faction?

colorfull diversion and different units on battlefield ok ... but nobody cares for the politics , the rise to power , the civil wars?

I think those are by far the most important battles and themes of the Roman age .

I think that the game should focus on Rome first and secondly on the rest .

Otherwise why not call it Ancient age total war instead of Rome II ?

I guess you've over smoke dude . To be honest I'm not keen on playing a civil war game cause I want new things in the game which can't be found in a small region like Rome and a couple of families fighting over power .

Apart from me who is called fanboy in these days there are lots of people that even don't care about Rome in the game and like other factions , cultures and unit rosters .