Modding Questions and Help Thread

[♔atthias♔]

For 2)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?631276

For 1)... I've never looked at the innards of MOS but if I had to guess I'd say there's probably a hidden resource in the export_description_buildings file that is required to upgrade a village into a town, and that in the descr_regions file the regions that they want you to be able to build a town in are given this resource. It's just a guess though. If you want all villages to be able to be built to towns, and my hunch is correct, you'd just change the building requirement for wooden_pallisade so that it doesn't require that hidden resource, and just put that on the next level up of settlement if you want some places to only be built to towns.
Then those you want to be fully upgradable, you just go back into the descr_regions file and give that hidden resource to the regions you want to be fully upgradable.
Again, just a guess.

be warned if you do this for rhosgobel and fangorn they lose their custom settlement IIRC

[Withwnar]

I edited all the population values in descr_strat.txt . But everytime i start a new game to see if the changes are applied the settlements still have a low population (e.g. the castle to the east of isengard still has 300 people at start even though it's 3600 in descr_strat.txt). What am i doing wrong?

Did you delete map.rwm?
If you do the new one will regenerate with the new information. If you do not it will use the old one.

Deleting map.rwm is not necessary for descr_strat, only when making changes in data\world\maps\base.

No idea what the reason is though. It's as if the wrong copy of that file is being edited* or the changes weren't saved.

* the one in data\world\maps\campaign\custom\Fellowship_Campaign perhaps, rather than the one in data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign?

[Gyugas]

Deleting map.rwm is not necessary for descr_strat, only when making changes in data\world\maps\base.

No idea what the reason is though. It's as if the wrong copy of that file is being edited* or the changes weren't saved.

* the one in data\world\maps\campaign\custom\Fellowship_Campaign perhaps, rather than the one in data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign?

imperial_campaign. It's strange. The game must be loading the values from somewhere else because i searched for the value 300 in every file in the TA folder but didn't find anything related to population.

[Gyugas]

It seems that the value of Isengard (4649) is working. But the rohan castle to the east (Westfold_Province) and the villages to the west aren't. Maybe those settlements aren't listed on a file that apply those effects?

[Ngugi]

An you're positive your edits are saved?
May it be the files have "Read Only" settings, so your edits are not saved?

[ShadowSpion]

Is there a way to give every unit the ability to reinforce while marching? Sort of like general units. I would like just for every unit to gain one or so guys back each turn so I don't have to cycle them back to a city to heal them. This is especially true for elite units that can only be trained in one or two cities.
Thanks

[♔atthias♔]

Is there a way to give every unit the ability to reinforce while marching? Sort of like general units. I would like just for every unit to gain one or so guys back each turn so I don't have to cycle them back to a city to heal them. This is especially true for elite units that can only be trained in one or two cities.
Thanks

not possible

[euskingc]

Deleting map.rwm is not necessary for descr_strat, only when making changes in data\world\maps\base.

Seems you're perpetually doomed to correct my misinformation hehe =)

Sorry about that =)

[euskingc]

Is there a way to give every unit the ability to reinforce while marching? Sort of like general units. I would like just for every unit to gain one or so guys back each turn so I don't have to cycle them back to a city to heal them. This is especially true for elite units that can only be trained in one or two cities.
Thanks

I didn't like moving unique units all the way back to Arnor to replenish so I just made a building called supply depot (I made it buildable in only the largest settlements) that lets me replenish but not recruit units.

their recruitment pool in the EDB was just limited to 0.99 so it never quite made it to that 1 whole unit.
They don't seem to show up on my recruitment tab either: just on the retrain tab if a unit needing retraining is present in the city.

I know that's not quite what you wanted but it's the best I can suggest.

[ShadowSpion]

I didn't like moving unique units all the way back to Arnor to replenish so I just made a building called supply depot (I made it buildable in only the largest settlements) that lets me replenish but not recruit units.

their recruitment pool in the EDB was just limited to 0.99 so it never quite made it to that 1 whole unit.
They don't seem to show up on my recruitment tab either: just on the retrain tab if a unit needing retraining is present in the city.

I know that's not quite what you wanted but it's the best I can suggest.

Thanks, that will at least help. I may make it buildable everywhere just to save me ages of marching. By chance did the ai take advantage of the building or not?

[euskingc]

No idea =)
Doesn't matter to me either way.

[dylandreiling]

Hello everyone,

I was just wondering if there was an easy way to mix and match a few units from different factions. For example, I have he DaC mod and would love to mix and match some of the elven units. Is there any way to do this?

Dylan

[Ngugi]

Hi dylan',
this tutorial is for you: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nother-faction

[Craig_wilson45]

as the title says I really want to know can I mix units from different factions in custom battle only

[Ngugi]

as the title says I really want to know can I mix units from different factions in custom battle only

Its a little work, but sure.
First, get Notepad++ to edit files, it's a freeware: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
Always back up any file before you edit it - that is modding rule number one.

Open export_descr_unit.txt in .../mods/Third_Age_3/data
Look up the unit you want to transfere, and see what models are mentioned in the "armour_ug_models "-line. Example (where the unit has two models):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

type             Axemen of Lossarnach
dictionary       Axemen_of_Lossarnach      ; Axemen of Lossarnach
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_infantry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Varangian_Guard, 60, 0, 1
officer             gondor_captain_early_flag
officer             gondor_captain_early_flag
mount_effect     horse +1, camel +1, elephant -4
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         8, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, axe, 50, 1
stat_pri_attr    ap
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  6, 4, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        2
stat_ground      0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental      13, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 470, 200, 75, 75, 470, 3, 150
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models lossarnach, lossarnach_ug1 
ownership        sicily
era 0            sicily
era 1            sicily
era 2            sicily
recruit_priority_offset    5

These models are those you will edit in battle_models.modeldb as you continue and follow this tutorial: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nother-faction

Note 1: you do not have to follow the tutorial part that concerns export_descr_buildings.txt

Note 2: The factions in code are named as the M2-originals, so Mordor = england, Dale = scotland etc. Who are sicily in the example then? To know who is who, you can go to data/text and open expanded.txt
All factions are listed at the top:

¬ Generated by localisation spreadsheet
{TIMURIDS}The Fellowship
{VENICE}Rhûn
{SICILY}Gondor
(...)

And here you see, that sicily = Gondor.

[Bingbangbong]

Does anybody know how you would mod a custom settlement to change its custom walls/gates back to vanilla ones?

Also what software would I need to do it? Would hexedit alone suffice, or would I need some kind of 3d modelling software like milkshape/blender?

[Lordoftheringer]

okay so, for about 1 month i have been trying to get third age total war on my mac. i am using wine and steam. But when i use the exe files all i get are these files: data, icons,preferences, TATW_3_0_unit_stats.xls, TATW.cfg and TATW.bat, Note: i do have file in the data folder and preferences. I think i am missing some files please help i would really like to play this game!

[Ngugi]

okay so, for about 1 month i have been trying to get third age total war on my mac. i am using wine and steam. But when i use the exe files all i get are these files: data, icons,preferences, TATW_3_0_unit_stats.xls, TATW.cfg and TATW.bat, Note: i do have file in the data folder and preferences. I think i am missing some files please help i would really like to play this game!

Hello, welcome to TWC

This is the "Mac thread", check there and if questions your peers can hopefully help you: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t-Macs-have-M2

[Bingbangbong]

Does anybody know how to toggle random bandit spawns on/off?

[Man9our]

hey


i want some help here plz

i do this
Mansour name the new member in family

relative Al-Zahir, Safiya, Al-Mustansir, Mubarak, Mansour, end
relative Al-Mustansir, Fatimah, Nasser, end
relative Mubarak, Zaynab, Moussa, end


but in systemlog.txt have error
15:48:04.053 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 2253, column 71
could not find next child. Children list must be terminated with an end

i delete it and do it again but same error

can anyone help me with this