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    +1 for WinMerge. Awesome program.

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    Notepad ++ is better

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    Both are handy and now both are added to the OP
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    Can you add this link to OP aswell? It's the most important page on the entire workshop honestly

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...rces-amp-Tools

    The most comprensive list of tutorials and tools. Even better than the pesky "search" function!

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    Added it too
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    Hello everybody,

    I am new to the modding community here, and so I hope I'm doing this right with this post. I have been working on a mod for my own personal playing for a few months now. I have added in a very few units (4-5) from other mods and I have recently merged in the new divide and conquer map which is brilliant of course. I was thinking about posting it here once it is complete just in case anyone wanted to give it a try and enjoy it. I have not edited any textures or models, only stats and text. It is mainly a balancing and game pace mod. Do I need to just give credits or do I need to get permission from the respective modders first?

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    Does anyone know how to make ALL garrisoned units within structure's have free upkeep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdanJ View Post
    Hello everybody,

    I am new to the modding community here, and so I hope I'm doing this right with this post. I have been working on a mod for my own personal playing for a few months now. I have added in a very few units (4-5) from other mods and I have recently merged in the new divide and conquer map which is brilliant of course. I was thinking about posting it here once it is complete just in case anyone wanted to give it a try and enjoy it. I have not edited any textures or models, only stats and text. It is mainly a balancing and game pace mod. Do I need to just give credits or do I need to get permission from the respective modders first?
    Hello AdanJ

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    You agree that you will not use any aspect of this service including -but not limited to- the wiki, social groups, tags, visitor messages and private messages, to perform the following actions:

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    10. Using Modders' Work Without Permission (1, 3, or 6 points)

    Using or distributing part or all of any modification without permission is prohibited.
    This mean you have to get an OK from the creator of the material you want to share first - unless the creator(s) have presented that the material is open source/free content. And also then it's almost always required, or at least good conduct, to present what you use from another and who the original creator(s) is/are.



    What concern files and content from TATW specificly;
    I'm afraid to tell it's a rough time to be a modder of TATW, due to King Kong not being active and granting permissions. To not cripple the stage all together the moderators lean towards the praxis and statements of KK, that left some doors open, summed up like this;
    Quote Originally Posted by Ngugi
    If it is TATW you want to mod and share then KK has stated a very free policy, however that do outright not include the models and textures of units, and in lack of clear instructions from KK the moderators also prohibit releases of other edited 2D and 3D material from TATW that lack permission; this is not to be cranky but to maintain the rules, and we moderators are just as limited by this as anyone else.
    Textfiles falls under the radar however, based on praxis from KK's side.
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    @ Consuela: Welcome to TWC! And good news: Yes you can!

    First, if you've never explored your TATW folder here is a sample folder tree you can follow: C:\Program Files (x86)\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age_3\data.

    In your 'data' folder there is a file called "export_descr_units.txt". Open export_descr_units.txt with notepad ++ (link to Notepad++ HERE)

    Scroll down until you come to a faction (first one is gondor) and you will see something like this:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    ;#################################################################
    ;########################## GONDOR #############################
    ;#################################################################

    type Dismounted Kofm
    dictionary Dismounted_Kofm ; Gondor Militia
    category infantry
    class light
    voice_type Heavy
    accent GondorInfantry
    banner faction main_infantry
    banner holy crusade
    soldier dismounted_kofm, 60, 0, 1.05
    officer gondor_banner_carrier
    officer gondor_officer
    mount_effect elephant -4
    attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
    formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
    stat_health 1, 1
    stat_pri 3, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 45, 1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 4, 6, 5, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 5
    stat_ground 0, -1, 1, -2
    stat_mental 10, normal, trained
    stat_charge_dist 6
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 360, 130, 75, 75, 360, 4, 100
    armour_ug_levels 2, 3
    armour_ug_models dismounted_kofm, dismounted_kofm_ug1
    ownership sicily, timurids
    era 0 sicily
    era 1 sicily
    era 2 sicily
    recruit_priority_offset 5


    This is the info for the 'Gondor Militia' unit. The trait you are looking for is bolded and in red. If you want every unit (such as trolls and mumlakil) to have free upkeep, you need to add "free_upkeep_unit" to the attributes line of each of those units. They can be found under their appropriate factions.

    Edit: Also, if your interested in learning what the rest of the unit info means, Mythic_Commodore has a wonderful introductory guide that can be found (Here).
    Last edited by Mank; April 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM.

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    So basically, i can post the TATW material as long as the models are untouched, and i can post other material with permission and/or credits as needed?

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    So basically, i can post the TATW material as long as the models are untouched,
    Sort of yes, as if you do not edit material you do not have to upload that (nor, if it aint textfiles, may you currently). For exampel if you edit the EDU so that elven archers do more damage the unit is already in TATW and you only have to release your new EDU with the submod.
    and i can post other material with permission and/or credits as needed?
    Yes, if the creators give thumbs up all is fine
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    Thanks for the help. What if I am unsure who created a specific unit? Specifically the Silvan elves pike unit that is in frogs.

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    No problem!
    Ask around; FRoGS official thread would be a good place to start if it there you've seen them
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    @ Mank & Loki_999: You were both right - I'd left some typos in there by accident and yes, Mank, I'm using Firefreak's DaC map and it's brilliant. The export_descr_buildings also did not like me messing with the rare/AOR units.

    @Ngugi: thanks for the tip - just downloaded it and @ DrBeast I downloaded WinMerge and yes, it proved invaluable for finding mistakes/errors.

    Thanks for your comments everyone, I really appreciate the advice, especially as you must get questions from novices all the time.

    Any idea how difficult it would be to make AUM compatible with Firefreak's DaC map?

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    hi have made a mistake somewhere in here but i cant seem to find it

    Code:
    character_record     Eleyond, male, age 72, dead 3, past_leader
    character_record    Lona, female, age 72, dead 8, never_a_leader
    character_record    Celebrian, female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Arwen, female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Faelwen, female, age 26, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Finduilas, female, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Fingon, male, age 9, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Turgon, male, age 8, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Finrod, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Voronwe, male, age 6, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Maerwen, female, age 22, alive, never_a_leader    
    character_record    Hurin, male, age 4, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Huor, male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Tuor, male, age 6, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Turin, male, age 6, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Galadhwen, female, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Bainwen, female, age 21, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Galadriel, female, age 42, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Malbung, male, age 17, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Beleg, male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative    Eleyond, Lona, Elrond, Celeborn, Cirdan, end
    relative     Elrond, Celebrian, Finduilas, Elladan, Elrohir, Arwen, end
    relative    Cirdan, Faelwen, Voronwe, Hurin, Huor, end
    relative    Celeborn, Galadriel, Malbung, Beleg, end
    relative    Glorfindel, Finduilas, Fingon, Turgon, Finrod, Galadhwen, end
    relative    Elladan, Maerwen, Tuor, end
    relative    Elrohir, Bainwen, Turin, end

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    Don't know how your mod* has it, but the lore name is Mablung, not Malbung; and then I do not understand what he does in the list as he's passed mature age of 16 (unless the mdo has another mature age but then the age differences might have to be looked over again)
    Can't see here but you have made Elrond older than CÝrdan (and Celeborn older as well)?

    *(assume you play 2nd Age since Celeborn and Galadriel is in HE)
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    how do i make a child into a starting general at the beginning instead of having to wait for him to age up

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    Code:
    character    Voronwe, named character, male, age 18, x 199, y 83,
    traits house_cirdan , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Loyal 1 , Just 1 , BattleChivalry 2
    ancillaries relative_cirdan
    army
    unit        Elf Nobel Mount                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    this is what i came up with but it is not working

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    Maybe try this (without ",")
    Code:
    character    Voronwe, named character, male, age 18, x 199, y 83,
    traits house_cirdan 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Loyal 1 , Just 1 , BattleChivalry 2
    ancillaries relative_cirdan
    army
    unit        Elf Nobel Mount                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

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