CA destroying the Total War franchise

[DCyDe]

And this only because they made the game ing hard to mod, you cant make your own maps like in RTW and M2TW and you cant unlock all factions (because they want to make more money with DLC).

I realy hope Shogun2 will fall far behind the sell expectations, at least with the expansion + DLC so CA will not up the next TW game and make it again more modder friendly like RTW and M2TW.

[Shikayama]

I am sorry for the modder scene, but I have already to admit I am going to buy probably every ing DLC that CA will serve.
Not that I like this kind of purchase but to be honest, I have been waiting years for a game like S2TW and now can't wait to get more, almost no matter how.
Hopefully there will get good mods though some day.

[Erwin Rommel]

And this only because they made the game ing hard to mod, you cant make your own maps like in RTW and M2TW and you cant unlock all factions (because they want to make more money with DLC).

I realy hope Shogun2 will fall far behind the sell expectations, at least with the expansion + DLC so CA will not up the next TW game and make it again more modder friendly like RTW and M2TW.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEE!!!

[skullman86]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEE!!!

I would rage too if I had to be seen in public holding my wife's purse

[Greve Af Göteborg]

And this only because they made the game ing hard to mod, you cant make your own maps like in RTW and M2TW and you cant unlock all factions (because they want to make more money with DLC).

I realy hope Shogun2 will fall far behind the sell expectations, at least with the expansion + DLC so CA will not up the next TW game and make it again more modder friendly like RTW and M2TW.

Noted, thank you and have a nice day.

[DeMolay]

Personally , i'm very disappointed that modding has been made so difficult by CA , i'll probably buy the DLC because i can't help it , i love this period too much , however i will not forget that business model choice and if things stay like this (if they don't release mod tools as they promised ) , it's almost sure i will not buy the next TW game , whether it is ROME 2 or anything

The reason is simple : since Rome Total war , the modding community made CA games at least quadruple their lifespan and increased their quality considerably (which indirectly affected the sales and the size of the community on the long term ) . Treating the community and dedicated modders like sheet in the end is not going to bode well with me .

If anything , all the PC games that cannot be modded die a very quick death nowadays ... it's the community that makes the TW games so vibrant and full life , if CA do not acknowledge that then fair enough , it is their property after all , but count me out as future customer .

[Nancy Mince]

And this only because they made the game ing hard to mod, you cant make your own maps like in RTW and M2TW and you cant unlock all factions (because they want to make more money with DLC).

I realy hope Shogun2 will fall far behind the sell expectations, at least with the expansion + DLC so CA will not up the next TW game and make it again more modder friendly like RTW and M2TW.

Be careful what you wish for. If you get your hope you wont get mod-friendly TW games. Instead you wont get any TW games because Sega will spend the development money somewhere else.

[General Brittanicus]

THey didnt deliberately make it difficult to mod, the game just isn't based on text files anymore so it's alot harder to mod it, besides we can still create virtually anything by modding the m2tw engine instead.

[Tuzakai]

I will be buying every DLC for s2tw because it just adds to the game and i can't help it.

Mods do spice up the game though so i will probably install a few choice mods too.

[DeMolay]

THey didnt deliberately make it difficult to mod, the game just isn't based on text files anymore so it's alot harder to mod it, besides we can still create virtually anything by modding the m2tw engine instead.

Ohhh ok sorry , i was not aware of that , then i feel much better about this suddenly

So i take back my previous words , as i mistakenly thought it was CA deliberately making modding more difficult , ok sorry for that and thank you for enlighting me

[metenojo]

I can't disagreed with OP about the mod scene only with the language. Im very disappointed with the new business model,so disappointed that I don't buy this last game,and that's the only way to make a statement. Here in Portugal in a big store, Worten,i saw the same five games copys in the shelters after a week ,so i have a sense that this game will be a fiasco sells.

[InF3sTeD]

There might be nobody buying games in Portugal because they are on the verge of bankrupcy. So far the game has sold fairly well from my understanding.

[Dis Astranagant]

Ohhh ok sorry , i was not aware of that , then i feel much better about this suddenly

So i take back my previous words , as i mistakenly thought it was CA deliberately making modding more difficult , ok sorry for that and thank you for enlighting me

Yeah, most people complaining about modding being intentionally made impossible don't understand games don't run out of text files and easily-manipulated and widely-understood coding languages anymore and complain devs need to fix the game while complain devs dont take time they could spend fixing the game to make mod tools and related documentary which is almost as great a task as making the game itself.

[Kraxis]

There might be nobody buying games in Portugal because they are on the verge of bankrupcy. So far the game has sold fairly well from my understanding.

Quite. Looking at a few stores that have Top 10 sellers on their stands, Shogun 2 is there. Well at least around my area. So my few stores trump one store that doesn't sell.

Basically, you can't use single stores for anything other than it, the store, might not be doing too well, and I stress might.

[Dr. Croccer]

The criticism will rack up once the post-release euphoria wears off. The same happened with Empire.

[fhaggis]

they have destroyed it with the bullshi, arcade joke battles

[metenojo]

There might be nobody buying games in Portugal because they are on the verge of bankrupcy. So far the game has sold fairly well from my understanding.

CA don't know it as they sell the game at 50k . They sell 120000 copys in the first week,if this is good or not i don't know,

[AzureNight]

I am sorry for the modder scene, but I have already to admit I am going to buy probably every ing DLC that CA will serve.
Not that I like this kind of purchase but to be honest, I have been waiting years for a game like S2TW and now can't wait to get more, almost no matter how.
Hopefully there will get good mods though some day.

In other words, you're exactly the type of sucker that allows mediocre garbage like DLC to succeed. They'd release one new type of ship and a reskinned unit for $5 and you'd be happy to open your wallet immediately...maybe it's time to really reconsider what is important in life?

[bangell99]

Of course CA won't fall behind in sales. Not now, not for their next release.
But the inability to mod does piss me off.

[Nerouin]

And this only because they made the game ing hard to mod, you cant make your own maps like in RTW and M2TW and you cant unlock all factions (because they want to make more money with DLC).

I realy hope Shogun2 will fall far behind the sell expectations, at least with the expansion + DLC so CA will not up the next TW game and make it again more modder friendly like RTW and M2TW.

I worked on Rome: Total Realism, and I can tell you quite plainly that RTW was NOT modder-friendly. CA advertised it to the modding community as "The most moddable CA game yet!", a claim that made several prominent MTW-era modders quit modding forever upon buying the game and finding that the claim was utterly false. A HUGE amount of RTW was hardcoded. There were an inane amount of things we were absolutely unable to touch.

If S2TW is worse than RTW in this regard, then yeesh...