Blond Germans?

[GermanicPride]

Haha bit of a strange thread but has anyone else found it odd that there hasn't been a single blond German warrior? Tacitus goes to all that trouble mentioning the giant blond and red haired Germans too..

[Akrotatos]

Most Germans I've met have light brown hair

[Ariovist]

Most Germans I've met have light brown hair

You know he talked about ancient times?
Archaelogical sources like the bog bodies also tell us those tribesmen where mostly blond or reddish-blond.

[ChairmanCrassus]

Looks at OPs name .... looks at thread topic .... hmmm .... makes sense to me.

[Sharpe]

Haha my Germanic friend - I'm sure the full game will have all the variation you desire.

[Braak]

Most Germans I've met have light brown hair

Germans today cant be compared with ancient germanics. There has bin a lot of culture mix since then.
Im pretty sure that there where a couple of blondes, cause blond hair was one of the few things that where exported out of germania.
But not every german was blonde. There may have been a lot of red or brown haired germans too.

[Der Phönix]

Not only Tacitus. Ancient writers always write about the Germanics as predominantly blonde-haired and red-haired. Tacitus. Ger. iv; Seneca. De Ira. iii. 26. Juv. Sat. xiii. 164; Lucan. ii. 60 3. The ancient writer Julius Firmicus Maternus went as far as writing all germanic peoples were blonde (an obvious though exaggeration).

I'm quite worried by this. Because if CA does not even make Germanic peoples predominantly blonde, then what about the Romans and Hellenic peoples of which also had significant fair haired strains at the time? Sulla, Cato the Elder, Augustus, Caligula, Titus, Dominitian, Trajan, Nero, Pyrrhus, Lysimachus, Ptolemy II, Dionysius I are being good examples for fair haired induviduals in the RomeII centered period.

[Marcus Aemilius Lepidus]

Most Germans I've met have light brown hair

I have it too I call it "Straßenköter"-Blond which is named after the dirty light-brown colour of dogs living on the street^^

I'm quite worried by this. Because if CA does not even make Germanic peoples predominantly blonde, then what about the Romans and Hellenic peoples of which also had significant fair haired strains at the time? Sulla, Cato the Elder, Augustus, Caligula, Titus, Dominitian, Trajan, Nero, Pyrrhus, Lysimachus, Ptolemy II, Dionysius I are being good examples for fair haired induviduals in the RomeII centered period.

I also thought about this, but i am honest, i can't remember a game which really got blond hair look okey. Blond allways looks fake in games...

[Ariovist]

Germans today cant be compared with ancient germanics. There has bin a lot of culture mix since then.
Im pretty sure that there where a couple of blondes, cause blond hair was one of the few things that where exported out of germania.
But not every german was blonde. There may have been a lot of red or brown haired germans too.

Naturally not all germanic people were blond, but looking at all ancient sources, the bog bodies and the greatest trade export beside amber (blond hair), there is a pattern.

Well, looking at the screenshots of the suebian Berserkers and the Teutoburg Forest battle, almost all warriors are dark-haired. Perhaps CA can give some input here.

After all it is a minor issue, but i really like to know why the go with rather the exceptions and not the majorities.

[Sharpe]

Not only Tacitus. Ancient writers always write about the Germanics as predominantly blonde-haired and red-haired. Tacitus. Ger. iv; Seneca. De Ira. iii. 26. Juv. Sat. xiii. 164; Lucan. ii. 60 3. The ancient writer Julius Firmicus Maternus went as far as writing all germanic peoples were blonde (an obvious though exaggeration).

I'm quite worried by this. Because if CA does not even make Germanic peoples predominantly blonde, then what about the Romans and Hellenic peoples of which also had significant fair haired strains at the time? Sulla, Cato the Elder, Augustus, Caligula, Titus, Dominitian, Trajan, Nero, Pyrrhus, Lysimachus, Ptolemy II, Dionysius I are being good examples for fair haired induviduals in the RomeII centered period.

I'm sorry but HOW ON EARTH can you be worried about the colour of a units hair?! Its a grand strategy game! Its such a petty point haha. If there is colour variation that's great but if there is not who cares!

[Ariovist]

I have it too I call it "Straßenköter"-Blond which is named after the dirty light-brown colour of dogs living on the street^^

Me too-
Must be the genes of some Roman invaders;-)

[Braak]

Naturally not all germanic people were blond, but looking at all ancient sources, the bog bodies and the greatest trade export beside amber (blond hair), there is a pattern.

Well, looking at the screenshots of the suebian Berserkers and the Teutoburg Forest battle, almost all warriors are dark-haired. Perhaps CA can give some input here.

After all it is a minor issue, but i really like to know why the go with rather the exceptions and not the majorities.

Didnt Jack or Will say that the current faces are only placeholders? Perhaps thats the reason.

[GermanicPride]

Haha my Germanic friend - I'm sure the full game will have all the variation you desire.

haha here's hoping however this is more of I'm blond and German/Danish so it would be nice to see some Suebi chieftain looking like me carve up a few Romans

[Der Phönix]

I'm sorry but HOW ON EARTH can you be worried about the colour of a units hair?! Its a grand strategy game! Its such a petty point haha. If there is colour variation that's great but if there is not who cares!

Because I like history reflected the way it was. Not distorted by ignorance, political correcteness or something else. This is particularly important when it comes to people. Making the Japanese dark haired and not blonde haired in Shogun was kind of important. If CA portayed Sean Bean like a dark haired induvidual, wouldn't you react?

[Sharpe]

Because I like history reflected the way it was. Not distorted by ignorance, political correcteness or something else. This is particularly important when it comes to people. Making the Japanese dark haired and not blonde haired in Shogun was kind of important. If CA portayed Sean Bean like a dark haired induvidual, wouldn't you react?

If CA messes with Sean Bean:



But in all honesty I wouldn't really care. Blonde Germans, Red Headed Romans, whatever - they're all pawns in armies of thousands and it makes literally no difference to the vast majority. I do sometimes feel sorry for the people that desire extravagant historicity - they will never get what they want

[Eofor]

Haha bit of a strange thread but has anyone else found it odd that there hasn't been a single blond German warrior? Tacitus goes to all that trouble mentioning the giant blond and red haired Germans too..

No because red and blond hair are actually fairly rare and Roman writers would have exaggerated the presence of red and blond-haired tribesmen because that was exotic and strange to them.

[Der Phönix]

No because red and blond hair are actually fairly rare and Roman writers would have exaggerated the presence of red and blond-haired tribesmen because that was exotic and strange to them.

Fair hair was by no means a rarity to the Romans.

Roman mosaics

Roman fescoes

[TR00PER7]

I could guide my way on the battlefield by detecting my entire armies of Ginger-Red Haired warriors.

[LemonySniffit]

No because red and blond hair are actually fairly rare and Roman writers would have exaggerated the presence of red and blond-haired tribesmen because that was exotic and strange to them.

Fairly rare? This can easily be disproven, even by science.

[Aymer de Valence]

All of the Gauls were ginger, and all of the Britons/Germans were blonde in Rome 1 lol. I hope this won't be the case in Rome 2