The Patch for BB 4.24 <24/08/2013>

[one day]

The Patch for BB4.24. <24/08/2013>

Content:

- Fixed bug "kingmaker" in the ancillary script. Here is trace log.txt :

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12:11:43.187 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0103_High_Income3> fired
12:11:43.421 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <1001_Update_Leader_Dies> fired
12:11:43.421 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <factionleader> fired
12:11:43.453 [game.script] [error] Trigger processing error in <Kingmaker1>
: FactionwideAncillaryExists needs a living character.
when testing <FactionwideAncillaryExists> condition
12:11:43.453 [game.script] [error] Trigger processing error in <Kingmaker2>
: FactionwideAncillaryExists needs a living character.
when testing <FactionwideAncillaryExists> condition
12:11:44.046 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

- Fixed bug rounded costs.
- Fixed counter in the file campaign_script.txt. (Now in the new campaign you will see counter for military and goverment points between x91-y00.)
- Fixed wrong position of the rebel army near Tbilisi (thx Drinka+Giumbix).
- Fixed religion tengriism and added mongol temples (thx Drinka+Giumbix).
- More historical improvements for diplomacy, Teutonic order begins first 50 years in campaign like ally HRE and Jerusalem Kingdom.
- Fixed bugs in the file historic_events.txt.
- Deleted all non existing missions in the start of campaign for all factions in campaign_script file. Such fixed bug :

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20:39:39.646 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <create_mission>, at line xxxx, in mods/DLV_ext/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt:
Could not create mission.

- Corrected units: armenia merchant militia cavalry and rebel baltic raiders.
- Fixed incorrect papal officers for Sicily.
- Fixed bugs in the file battle_models.modeldb.
- Added 53 new normal textures for units.

Installation:

- Extract the data folder which you find inside the compressed archives to your "..\M2TW\mods\DLV_ext\" folder.
- Delete the file historic_events.txt.strings.bin in ..mods\DLV_ext\data\text folder.
- Saved game is full compatible but some repairs require a new campaign..

[Kjertesvein]

Will check it out, thanks. Do I have to start another campaign to use this?

~Wille

[one day]

No, it is not necessary. I can continue in the same campaign after fix, and without this CTD.

[Coldfire88]

would this export_descr_ancillaries work with 6.2/6.3 too?

if this is really the cause of the problem then +rep and a big thank you

[one day]

I don´t know. Can you upload original file from 6.2 ? I could compare it with file from BB, whether they are the same.

[GRANTO]

good stuff...well spotted

[one day]

updated post#1

[one day]

I plan patch, where field-costs will be reduced 4 times, because there are 4 turns in the one year. Now costs are very expensive more then cost of new unit. And army, diplomats, assassins or spies have their normal wages. I think, it could be more balanced especially for small factions. What do you think, any suggestions ?

[The Bold Burgundian]

I plan patch, where field-costs will be reduced 4 times, because there are 4 turns in the one year. Now costs are very expensive more then cost of new unit. And army, diplomats, assassins or spies have their normal wages. I think, it could be more balanced especially for small factions. What do you think, any suggestions ?

I still got a unknown error popup during rebel faction, it had a window but no text, but they seems to occur much less now. Also your reduced upkeep idea is good, i urge you to do it!

[one day]

I still got a unknown error popup during rebel faction, it had a window but no text, but they seems to occur much less now. Also your reduced upkeep idea is good, i urge you to do it!

Evidently there are some another bugs. Can you upload here trace log.txt ?
Ok, I´ll start make patch this weekend.

[Cyprian2]

I plan patch, where field-costs will be reduced 4 times, because there are 4 turns in the one year. Now costs are very expensive more then cost of new unit. And army, diplomats, assassins or spies have their normal wages. I think, it could be more balanced especially for small factions. What do you think, any suggestions ?

Hmm. I personally feel that the economy -- tough as it is -- is very realistic and balanced. Also, the AI factions don't suffer the same way as the player -- and are actually granted massive financial bonuses when reduced to one or two settlements. The high upkeep forces one to play strategically -- only mustering troops as needed (historically accurate) and making use of forts and castles, etc. Finally, I've learned from experience that it's entirely possible to build up a great military and economy as almost any faction provided the right steps are taken. But that's just my two cents.

[one day]

I quite agree. But did you try factions like Teoutons or Jerusalem ? It´s really very hard to start with this economy. And I plan only reduce field cost and no delete this idea. I think, that it is paying twice the same thing. I mean siege army or diplomat abroad for example.

[Cyprian2]

I quite agree. But did you try factions like Teoutons or Jerusalem ? It´s really very hard to start with this economy. And I plan only reduce field cost and no delete this idea. I think, that it is paying twice the same thing. I mean siege army or diplomat abroad for example.

It's indeed true that the smaller factions are hard to get a handle on. I find Norway particularly frustrating, because of its relatively poor cities and troops that require hight upkeep. Haven't played as Crusader States or Teutonics yet, but I'll give them a go in the next little while. At any rate, I'd be very interested to see what you come up with. Go for it!

[Kaskad]

Playing with Kingdom of Jerusalem and the economic situation is great. I am the richest kingdom (year 1228). IMHO the balance of the economy in DLV is well done.

[one day]

Playing with Kingdom of Jerusalem and the economic situation is great. I am the richest kingdom (year 1228). IMHO the balance of the economy in DLV is well done.

Can you write more facts, please ? Do you play VH/VH level ? How many territories and costs ?

And as I ´ve seen in script, every field or settlement costs rounded up to 500 (e.g. 500,1000, 1500, 2000..). I will change it to 100 (e.g. 100, 200, 300, 400.. until to 3000). It could save some money.

[Kaskad]

Yes, VH/VH, I have conquered 10 territories, most against Egypt (and all the Cyprus Island). The key point is that I am allied with the Abbassid caliphat since year 1189 to cover my eastern front (I had given them money every turn since 1181 untill we signed an alliance).
I am afraid your changes could make the game too easy. I will check the costs I have.

[one day]

It´s not my plan to make DLV too easy. Ok, I can make that you could pay really 300 field costs (e.g. one diplomat abroad) not rounded up to 500 or settlement costs 1100 and not again rounded up to 1500 per turn. The different is 600 every turn. Especially during start of campaign they are quite big money. Only something like mathematic correction.

[LaMuerte]

Thanks for the fix. Trying it out right now...

edit : Since installing this , it seems my governors are getting agent ancillaries... (for example stunning handmaiden , pet monkey , etc.) Didn't start a new campaign though.

[one day]

Thanks for the fix. Trying it out right now...

edit : Since installing this , it seems my governors are getting agent ancillaries... (for example stunning handmaiden , pet monkey , etc.) Didn't start a new campaign though.

In the new campaign propably everything will be correct.


Ok, I have uploaded new patch. Please, see the first post.

[Drinka of the Rum]

Nice work one day. I've tested your patch and it works fine for me. Your field costs script makes quite a noticeable difference to the economy, particularly in the early part of the game. I hope Taiji includes it in his next update!

Not sure how LaMuerte (or Justin Beiber, for that matter) ended up with a pet monkey but it sounds like fun (until you run out of bananas and the monkey rips your face off... )

This forum's very quiet these days but I'm sure there are still a lot of fans of DLV + BB out there. I hope you have time to take a look at the small mod I recently posted. I think it plays very nicely, although it still needs more development. After a ton of errors from the TWC server I ended up posting it on the DLV main page rather than the mini-mods section

Here are a few other things I've been looking at modding on my own install:

1. I'm on a bit of a mission to get the Mongols working better under AI control. Before the fix re religious conversion they did not do much at all, but even now they still just potter around their starting provinces for much of the game. If you give them long enough they will take a couple of cities to the south of Bulgar, but the AI really appears to struggle with their isolated starting position. To make things worse there is only one road connecting Mongol lands to the rest of the map (ie Viatka to Belo-Ozero,) and it's probably the longest road between 2 adjacent cities in the whole game. The AI is not very good at making the journey, and I am yet to see the Mongols take Belo-Ozero, Ryazan, Moscow, Sarkel or even Murom in any of my campaigns.

A couple of things I thought may help this are a road from Bulgar to Murom, and a river crossing between from Atil to the Samandar side of the river. Do you know how to do this? I'd love to hear any thoughts you may have about this. I've also added a Mustering hall and Bowyer to the Bulgar in the descr_strat file, so they can get producing units a little sooner.

2. Ive also enabled Mongol Princesses in the descr_sm_factions file. They are the only faction I can think of that Taiji hasn't allowed to have this agent type yet. Since making this change the Mongols are much more diplomatically active. I was hoping you might know how to enable sounds for Princesses as at the moment they are silent.

3. Another little problem I've noticed is that the government points required for city wall upgrades is out of sync. I rarely play to more that 30 or 40 cities captured but I'd never built a fairground or large wall until I modified the export_descr_buildings file. If you lower the market level required for large walls to "market" and to "fairground" for huge walls, castle and city upgrades occur at every close to the same time in the campaign. At the moment especially AI cities have a big problem with squalor and plague due to not being able to upgrade. Any thoughts?

That's probably enough for one post. As you can tell I have being giving Taiji's awesome mod a lot of thought recently, and I've got a few more ideas which I'll mention when I've got more time. Of course, I'm happy for you to include any fixes we discuss in your patch.