In case anyone's wondering, militarized nuclear powered submarines are capitol ships.
Eats, shoots, and leaves.
Whoa, hang on, you're backing away from your own points. You expressed concerns about the welfare of the British military in this incredibly tenuous scenario that they underestimate Argentinian forces in case or armed confrontation.
So I ask you again - what is the basis for this concern? What do you know about Argentinian military capacity that we don't?
I will expand - do you think that Britain stands a chance against Argentina in a potential armed conflict over Falklands?
If only there was a simple, catchy word to describe this behaviour...
Last edited by Plan C; February 14, 2013 at 02:37 AM.
So according to you every single Enclave in the world should be invaded ? : Kabinda, Kalingrad, Alaska , etc ?
Or yet Venezuela should take the Dutch West Indies Islands and Canada invade Saint Miquelon Islands ? What a load of Barbaric Notions.
The Claim of territorial integrity by Argentina is BS, the British were on the Islands before Argentina even existed to make any claim to anything, so the British didn't violate anything because there was NOTHING to violate. Your complains about Colonialism make no sense since Argentina was the Party pushing a colonial claim on the Island against the wishes of the Native Falklanders, so Britain had to restaure order to the Galaxy Deal with it.
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
Which doesn't mean anything since Britain has 2 of the world most advanced Warships in the Falklands and an airwing big enough to invade most third world countries, and this time they have a garrison in the Island that is ready to fight.
History is not prophecy.
Edit:
Also last time Geography and technology was stacked against the British because they had no counter measures against cruise missiles except using helicopter as baits and assuming a formation to shield the carriers from attacks. Also because of distance the Argentines had initially air superiority because the British had limited air refuelling capacity, while today they could basically fly strike missions from Assuncion or St Helen that would be refueled mid Atlantic.
On the subject of St Helen isn't that Island closer to Angola than UK ? ST HELEN IS AN ANGOLAN ISLAND DOWN WITH COLONIALISM !!!!!!!
Last edited by Menelik_I; February 14, 2013 at 05:43 AM.
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
Is this where idealistic youngsters dream about a new war between Argentina and the UK over the South Atlantic Islands?
Sorry to dissapoint you but until we are finished licking the Iranian's blood stained boots(yes, and that's Argentine blood I'm talking about) our erratic and laughable External Policy won't get back to you. Hehehehe
Something around 13 american dollars.
Last edited by Claudius Gothicus; February 14, 2013 at 05:59 AM.
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« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
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Yes, they are serious... there are no clean political, cultural or judicial gains in this one for Argentina, but there are less than clear reasons, shady ones, which many have summed up in 2 not mutually exclusive options: most likely an attempt to get cheaper oil (Argentina is in the middle of a long denied Energy Crisis) or a deliberate attempt to obstruct the Judiciary from discovering the suspected connections between certain political circles around the current government and the local perpetrators who facilitated the Iranians the ordeal.
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In that case you should be advocating the maintenance of the political status quo in the Falklands, surely? Should Argentina attack the islands again more British lives will likely be lost protecting their status as British subjects.
Where I think you could show some consideration is for our Argentinian friends, many of whom would likely also perish. Show some concern for the Argentinians too mate.
I'd still say that losing so many ships to a second-rate (or by today's standards third-rate, since Britain would be second-rate) was not the best performance.
I'm not advocating any position on the Falklands, as far as I know.
I couldn't care less if a million Argentinians and Britishers died fighting over some rock in the water.
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
Except that most of the battles where between the British Navy and the Argentine AIRFORCE.
Sinking of the Belgrano aside the Argentine Navy barely showed its head in the conflict, all Royal Navy ships lost in the conflict were due to Argentine Aircraft attacks, so you really don't know what in the you are talking about.
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934