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Heir to Noble Savage in the Imperial House of Wilpuri
The concluding thoughts.
All that you can produce is a cosmology where man is left alone to himself. WE had had that phase in ideological thought, politics, history, philosophy, etc... with German idealism and Existentialism. Both of these are dead solipsistic philosophies. The root of your despise for Catholic institutions and your fetishistic trumping of individual "freedom" vis a vis them is the root of this humanism - which leaves man alone to his own little world, his own little brain in a vat.
You're all nihilists. The "freedom" which you propose is anarchist chaos, and not true freedom. When anyone of you can even begin speaking in terms of Being qua Being, and get beyond that whole BS about "me" and the self-centered thinking (that constitutes "humanism" in the sense I am speaking - the traditional one, derived from Renaissance Platonism), you can then start even grasping the problem. As for now, you seem incapable of overcoming even this basic antinomy, and are stuck in a world of narcissistic mirages created by your own imagination.
Joseph Ratzinger, who writes his Introduction to Christianity, speaks well of this problem. You deride me for being a Platonist, ye the Platonist Vico's dictum vero quia factum is the unconscious root of all your thinking; this effectively means you're deeply locked into the ego, a terrible, awful prison.
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"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)
My concluding thoughts on your concluding thoughts:
Rubbish the lot of it. You seem to think life without your special brand of imaginary friend is.. well, nihilistic, as you called us. This is complete rubbish. For starters, there are over 2000 imaginary friends in the history of humanity to believe in, each just as likely to exist as your imaginary friend. Also, everyone who doesn't believe in your imaginary friend hasn't fallen to their knees in despair and torn their own hearts from their chest, so I find your extremely bold claim that your special brand of imaginary friend is the only one that gives life any purpose to be... well, it leaves a lot to be desired. You call us self centered and yet you created your God in your image, and think he takes time out of running the universe just to have a special interest in you. That he hand made a plan and he has a special place just for you in it. Tell me, who of us is self centered?
This one is called Jorge Mario Bergoglio and is from Buenos Aires, the Papal Name is Francis.
Under the Patronage of Maximinus Thrax
Nicolás Maduro (Venezuela's acting president)
I met some wonderful Catholic person, and some evil really evil and hypocrite Catholic, as I met idiotic Atheists and fantastic persons who don't believe in god.
In my opinion the religions don't make the men, but are the men who make the religions.
There are also many kind of Catholics: some more open minded, some other more obscurantist, people who doesn't care about the pope but who feels themselves still Catholic, people who lives carrying the 'cilicio', there are Catholic Unions, and there is Opus Dei, many are the tipologies of the Catholic people, it's not easy to consider the Catholic Church as a monolite, it's a world too big and too composite to be semplified.
The new Pope - well the background of him had something to do with Argetinian dictatorship...what about that?? Also suprisingly, the new Pope wasn´t actually in first in line of being chosen as new Pope...even Ghana Cardinal had better odds for being elected...but suprises exist also in Vatican
The Sons of Mars - Brutii AAR
"We Brutii are the only true Romans. We drove out the Kings. We saved Rome. We made the Republic."
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People just wanted a black pope so they projected their desires. At least that's what I was thinking when people were raving about Turkson, but the stronghold of the modern day catholic church is latin America, not Africa. In addition many other issue that are non-ethnic probably take precedence over race in a papal conclave.
So the Patriarch of Constantinople is going to attend the bishop of Rome's inauguration mass for the first time since the Great Schism of 1054.
Interesting. Some people are saying that this is a sign of gradual movement towards reconciliation. In my opinion there is no point to any of this while the bishop of Rome still claims supremacy.
Happy to see that the Vatican are keeping with their fascist theme.
So the previous one was a Nazi, the new one is an Argentinian war criminal. Catholic Church is great at picking its leaders.
To-day we live so cowed under the bombardment of this intellectual artillery(the media) that hardly anyone can attain to the inward detachment that is required for a clear view of the monstrous drama. The will-to-power operating under a pure democratic disguise has finished off its masterpiece so well that the object's sense of freedom is actually flattered by the most thorough-going enslavement that has ever existed.
- Oswald Spengler, The Decline of the West, Vol 2: Perspectives of World History