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    Default The pope is resigning

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304 Full story here (well not full story, details aren't there yet.

    The first time in 600 years that a pope voluntarily resigns.

    Sorry if this isn't in the right forum.

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    Default Re: The pope is resigning

    If the year was 1500, this would be the right forum. But it isn't, not anymore.

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    Good riddance. Ratzinger is a cruel zealot who protected child rapists as head of the inquisition and utterly failed to appropriately recognise these crimes when they became public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Good riddance. Ratzinger is a cruel zealot who protected child rapists as head of the inquisition and utterly failed to appropriately recognise these crimes when they became public.
    Sound opinion, man.
    Quote Originally Posted by lemondude View Post
    you can do that? How can God's representative on earth resign? Was he fired by God? Or is it mutual?
    Well, he said he was praying to God and consulting his conscience, and both pretty much told him that he is too old to continue.

    Not that I can't understand him. Dealing with baseless and stupid opinions like Ferret's or BOM's on a daily basis must be incredibly frustrating.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
    Don't bother. He must have had personal problems with the church, the opinion itself is just plain bs.
    Last edited by Primo; February 11, 2013 at 05:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Good riddance. Ratzinger is a cruel zealot who protected child rapists as head of the inquisition and utterly failed to appropriately recognise these crimes when they became public.
    Very true, just like the BBC and the government


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    A better riddance would be the abolition of the office itself. And the religion that comes with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatta Optima Maxima View Post
    A better riddance would be the abolition of the office itself. And the religion that comes with it.
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
    People who wanted to be charitable would simply find other avenues.

    This is like saying if people who invented stuff didn't, nobody else ever would...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA... Oh wait, you're serious.

    P.S. Molestation jokes aren't funny, btw. I thought that people with morals derived from a supreme omniscient being would know that.
    Last edited by Blatta Optima Maxima; February 11, 2013 at 08:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
    Most charitable organizations don't enable, conceal, and protect child molesters/rapists or enslave women. This isn't even getting into its fight against contraception and complicating the struggle against HIV. It's charitable giving is the saving grace of the institution considering how many other lives it has ruined.

    On topic, I don't see that it's unreasonable for the Pope to resign due to advanced age and declining health. I think it's actually sort of humble to be able to admit when one is no longer capable of adequately being the voice of God, and resigning so that someone more vigorous can replace him. Because a senile, unintelligible sick Pope does the Catholic Church no favors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stark of Winterfell View Post
    On topic, I don't see that it's unreasonable for the Pope to resign due to advanced age and declining health. I think it's actually sort of humble to be able to admit when one is no longer capable of adequately being the voice of God, and resigning so that someone more vigorous can replace him. Because a senile, unintelligible sick Pope does the Catholic Church no favors.
    Of course is not unreasonable for the Pope to resign.The fact is that Catholics believe him to be God's representative on Earth, that's why something like this is extremely rare; to simply resign does not combine well with the idea of a divine mandate.Indeed, the rarity of a thing like this begs the question if something else is going on; the Church is ripe with political machinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Not sure how the disappearance of one of the biggest charitable institutions in the world could be considered a good thing.
    You could donate the Aposotolic Palace as an Orphanage for the world's children and use the money from all the expensive clothes and jewelry and other unimportant to do something good rather than rape little boys and then protect the perpetrators from the punishment they deserve.

    It would also help eliminate the idea that all the good things in life come from an imaginary man in the sky and all the bad things are just part of his plan no matter how ed up it is.

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    you can do that? How can God's representative on earth resign? Was he fired by God? Or is it mutual?

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    Maybe he just wants to marry his beloved and the Holy see does not approve of such... relations.

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    Sorry if this isn't in the right forum.
    Thema Devia...perhaps?

    Now let us all quietly shed a tear for Ratzinger's departure. And ask for him the Lord's forgiveness with the following hymn:

    Oh Lord, please don't burn us.
    Don't grill or toast Your flock.
    Don't put us on the barbecue
    Or simmer us in stock.
    Don't braise or bake or boil us
    Or stir-fry us in a wok.
    Oh, please don't lightly poach us
    Or baste us with hot fat.
    Don't fricassee or roast us
    Or boil us in a vat,
    And please don't stick Thy servants, Lord,
    In a Rotissomat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_Victrix View Post
    Thema Devia...perhaps?

    Now let us all quietly shed a tear for Ratzinger's departure. And ask for him the Lord's forgiveness with the following hymn:
    The Devia already beat the Mudpit to this one.


    I have returned

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    he got too old for the pool parties


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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriVII View Post
    Seriously in this world and from the third world, you are legitimately surprised?
    Not from the third world, that is a tired racist excuse and you should be ashamed for using it. Why should you be ashamed? You assumed because he was Ghanan he was third world. The man speaks seven maybe less languages but not much more than less and you assume because he is african he is an idiot?

    Do you speak seven languages? Do you speak fluent ghanan, English and Latin to name three? He speaks more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    Oh, Danny, you have never seen this then. As a matter of fact it's Catholicism in all its traditionalist normalcy.
    Idiocy and a vast ignorant and stupid stance towards science is matter of fact? Not understanding basic facts and knowledge is just part of what is going on?

    THat is cool are you part of that deliberate ignorance too or is it just them?

    Quote Originally Posted by nein View Post
    he got too old for the pool parties
    Maybe I did, got to old for the rape parties too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Not from the third world, that is a tired racist excuse and you should be ashamed for using it. Why should you be ashamed? You assumed because he was Ghanan he was third world. The man speaks seven maybe less languages but not much more than less and you assume because he is african he is an idiot?

    Do you speak seven languages? Do you speak fluent ghanan, English and Latin to name three? He speaks more.
    Seven...no. I speak fluent English, German, Russian, conversational Spanish and Estonian not to put too fine a point on it. So 3 3/4? Not seven but if we are using the amount of languages one knows to measure "worldliness" I probably rank pretty good compared to most people...including you and I have no humiliation that there is a cardinal who knows more than languages than me. In addition "Ghanian" is not a language. Ghana is a country made up of many different linguistic groups. His native tongue if I am correct is called Nzema and he probably knows some other languages in Ghana in addition to that.

    Tell me, is it racist to know what their cultural attitudes are Danny? Or to know that this world is not full of enlightened people and that it is a mean and intolerant place? Their societal values are not friendly to homosexuality. In fact this is a norm in most of the world...not just Africa. The liberal societies of this world only started to become friendly very very recently. So recognizing a reality is not racist. If anyone here is being ethno or culture centric it would be you because you were surprised....absolutely surprised that people in the world exist who don't share your liberal opinions on the matter. Let's see latin America isn't too friendly to it, many Eastern Europeans are not fans of homosexuals to put it lightly, in Russia iGay Pride parades have been banned for a century in Moscow. In China it is considered a mental disease by the regime, and they hang them in parts of Africa...and I am sure we are all familiar of their stance on the issue in the Arab world is. In addition to this he is a Cardinal. Homosexuality is considered a sin...along with premarital sex, lying, cheating, and murder among other things. What do you want from the catholic church? To just throw away everything they have stood for centuries for because it what the progressive masses of a few countries who aren't even catholic want? Why do you care? You are not even catholic.

    Good job trying to paint me as something I'm not.
    Last edited by YuriVII; February 20, 2013 at 11:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Maybe I did, got to old for the rape parties too?
    There's a great joke I hear about how hard it is to hold down a 10 year old at his age
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