The BNP

[happyho]

So then condoning the existence of Canada and the US is akin to condoning mas-murder as well then? Essentially, those that recognize the existence of these states and their leaders, 95% of the world, are condoning mass murder?

Forgive me but I've been awake for about 30 hours so I'm not sure if your asking me if I condone mass murder or something else. I realised after I posted that perhaps I should have removed your green writing but forgot to. I'm Canadian and of course I don't condone mass murder.

Reason I mentioned the genocide of the Beothuks is because it seemed as though you were asserting that genocide has never occured in North America, once again if I'm wrong blame it on a lack of sleep. Only reason I mentioned the Beothuks specifically is because I am familiar with their history having studied it in University. However they are not the only First Nation that has dissapeared in North America, theirs happens to be the history I am sure enough of to post without making unsubstantiated claims.

[St George]

Genocide is also: "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
~Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

I don't see illegal immigration here. Genocide is a crime of intent, one whereby people seek means to end another groups existence, intentionally. Immigration is the movement of peoples from one area of the globe to another. Thus I fail to see how immigration is genocide?

Government policies are INTENTIONAL.

The definition of genocide is: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.” If a thief drew a gun, pointed it at your head, lifted your pocket-book, and the gun "accidentally" went off leaving you dead, everyone but a swindler would agree the thief shot you with intent to kill.

The thief's cries that "it was an accident, I only wanted his pocket-book" would fall on deaf ears.

Laws are not accidents. It is official -- ie, INTENTIONAL -- policy of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries to flood in hundreds of millions of non-white invaders.

This is GENOCIDE -- in whole and in part.

[Tom Paine]

It is hardly genocide. It is not dedicated to destroying anyone. It is allowing entry of others into our borders, allowing interbreeding. It is not a matter of inviting immigrants here (we don't, I might point out, do that); its a matter of simply accepting them. Furthermore the numbers who enter are hardly "flooding" us by any means, that is gross exaggeration for less than 1m people per annum (last year, the highest in about ten years, it was 565,000). In total immigrants make up 7.5% of the British population (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...l/overview.stm) and in 2001 over 90% of the British population was white (https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/uk.html). So its hardly genocide.

[St George]

Forgive me but I've been awake for about 30 hours so I'm not sure if your asking me if I condone mass murder or something else. I realised after I posted that perhaps I should have removed your green writing but forgot to. I'm Canadian and of course I don't condone mass murder.

Reason I mentioned the genocide of the Beothuks is because it seemed as though you were asserting that genocide has never occured in North America....

What you are saying is that since it is your personal belief that Beothuks were victims of genocide, therefore it is jolly alright for whites in North American to suffer genocide.

[gigagaia]

Forgive me but I've been awake for about 30 hours so I'm not sure if your asking me if I condone mass murder or something else. I realised after I posted that perhaps I should have removed your green writing but forgot to. I'm Canadian and of course I don't condone mass murder.

Reason I mentioned the genocide of the Beothuks is because it seemed as though you were asserting that genocide has never occured in North America, once again if I'm wrong blame it on a lack of sleep. Only reason I mentioned the Beothuks specifically is because I am familiar with their history having studied it in University. However they are not the only First Nation that has dissapeared in North America, theirs happens to be the history I am sure enough of to post without making unsubstantiated claims.

Of course there were acts of Genocide, but the immigration of white settlers is what I referred to. The people who I am discussing this with are relating immigration to genocide, when it "endangers" a native population. I wasn't asking you if you condone mass murder, but simply relating it to what other people were posting...

Government policies are INTENTIONAL.

The definition of genocide is: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.” If a thief drew a gun, pointed it at your head, lifted your pocket-book, and the gun "accidentally" went off leaving you dead, everyone but a swindler would agree the thief shot you with intent to kill.

The thief's cries that "it was an accident, I only wanted his pocket-book" would fall on deaf ears.

Laws are not accidents. It is official -- ie, INTENTIONAL -- policy of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries to flood in hundreds of millions of non-white invaders.

This is GENOCIDE -- in whole and in part.

And would you like to prove to us that the policies are INTENTIONALLY trying to exterminate white peoples? I mean, given that immigration laws are usually intended to help bolster economic productivity and stem economic leeching from declining birth rates, or even foster a sense of diversity, I've never actually heard of immigration laws being enacted specifically with intent to exterminate white peoples. I mean, unless you have proof of course...

You might also want to answer my question about North America too, it's pretty relevant to your argument...

What you are saying is that since it is your personal belief that Beothuks were victims of genocide, therefore it is jolly alright for whites in North American to suffer genocide.

Thus you condone something far worse than a mass-murder: the extinction of 230 million men, women, and children in North America.

And the Native populations that White settlers displaced during the age of North American colonialism?

[Tom Paine]

That's hardly what he is saying by any means. He is saying that there was genocide committed. I think you are reading into too much the idea of condonement of mass murder and genocide.

[Visna]

You still haven't answered me St. George. I'm beginning to feel neglected here.
Tick tock. Tick tock.

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Government policies are INTENTIONAL.

The definition of genocide is: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.” If a thief drew a gun, pointed it at your head, lifted your pocket-book, and the gun "accidentally" went off leaving you dead, everyone but a swindler would agree the thief shot you with intent to kill.

The thief's cries that "it was an accident, I only wanted his pocket-book" would fall on deaf ears.

Laws are not accidents. It is official -- ie, INTENTIONAL -- policy of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries to flood in hundreds of millions of non-white invaders.

This is GENOCIDE -- in whole and in part.

Yada yada yada. Prove that these policies and laws are passed with the intent to commit genocide. Failure to do so, will simply leave your claim in the sewer where it belongs.

[St George]

It is hardly genocide. It is not dedicated to destroying anyone. It is allowing entry of others into our borders, allowing interbreeding. It is not a matter of inviting immigrants here (we don't, I might point out, do that); its a matter of simply accepting them. Furthermore the numbers who enter are hardly "flooding" us by any means, that is gross exaggeration for less than 1m people per annum (last year, the highest in about ten years, it was 565,000). In total immigrants make up 7.5% of the British population (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...l/overview.stm) and in 2001 over 90% of the British population was white (https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/uk.html). So its hardly genocide.

There are 100,000,000 aliens in the USA alone. Americans will be a minority in America by 2043, says Associated Press. The Government says Britons will be a minority in Britain around 2060. This means that a majority of the gene pool in GB will have been effectively destroyed. Interbreeding assures that remnant minority will wholly cease to exist.

This is completely obvious to anyone but a robot.

The problem is that you believe in the Politically Correct religion. Thus anyone speaking differently is a heretic.

The more truly speaks, the more you hate him.

HERESY!

Each society has its own word for HERESY!

Communists called all HERESY! Fascist. Fascist Italy called all HERESY Communist.

Today, under the Politically Correct tyranny, HERESY! is called HATE! or “racism.” Nobody wants to try to deal with a point such as that anti-racism means white genocide, so they start demanding that nobody say it, just like any other tyranny does. They call people who speak HERESY! names.

You Political Correctness fanatics are playing a very old game.

When you call people names who disagree with you or scream Hate or racism, a.k.a., HERESY! it says nothing about the point we heretics make.

But it tells us ALL about YOU.

[gigagaia]

Ok Full Stop. Stop saying that ANYONE on these boards are worse than mass-murderers.

You can say "these people committed mass-murder," or discuss that a group of people may have been complicit, but consistently calling another member an accomplice to or complicit in mass murder is trolling and is thus unacceptable. There will be Severe consequences for the next person who does so.

You have all been warned.

[GOT REMOTE]

A neat trick of avoiding the question.

Thank you.

Not if the reason was simply immigration.

And you would refuse the right of Black Africans to control their borders and stop that immigration?

[Tom Paine]

They have that right. I would however say their policies were foolish economically, and if they opened the borders on the basis of race I would say they were racist. Same applies to the UK.

St George I will once more ask for these matters to be posted rather than just referred to. By the way I have not and will not call you a racist, I have simply shown you to be wrong in matter many and varied. Oh, and that 100,000,000 figures seriously needs substaniating as that would be over a third of the US populace, which I find more than highly unlikely, but impossible.

[GOT REMOTE]

They have that right. I would however say their policies were folish economically, and if they opened the borders on the basis of race I would say they were racist. Same applies to the UK.

I would love to see you trying to sell that concept to a Black person.

[Tom Paine]

Generally their borders are open; the thing is, they are losing more people than enter, due to poor economies and social conditions, and these emigrants are immigrating to the West. Some exceptions exist, and I would guess Zimbabwe was one of them; but then, Zimbabwe has a racist government.

[happyho]

I don't see how any reasonable person could equate immigration with mass murder or genocide as it seems St-George is trying to do. It seems to me like an entirely intolerant attitude for someone to have in this day and age. As well I am sorry but the death of the entire Beothuk race is a fact not my personal belief.

[GOT REMOTE]

I was actually talking more about when the first European settlers arrived in North America and displaced the native peoples, forming new settlements and eventually states which pushed native populations to the brink of existence due to a mass-influx of migration. Kind of what you think is what is happening in Britain, but in a slightly larger scale...

Do you condone the same thing happening in Britain with mass non white immigration?

[St George]

You still haven't answered me St. George. I'm beginning to feel neglected here.
Tick tock. Tick tock.

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Yada yada yada. Prove that these policies and laws are passed with the intent to commit genocide. Failure to do so, will simply leave your claim in the sewer where it belongs.

What you are asking is for someone to read minds. This is silly.

The law never works that way. The law looks at an action, sees what the results would naturally arise from said action, and thus determines intent as obvious.

For example an International Commission of Jurists concluded in its reports, 1959 and 1960, that there was a prima facie case of genocide committed by the Chinese upon the Tibetan nation. This was determined solely on Communists suppressing the Tibetan religion. Since the CPPRC was atheist, it shut down monasteries and ended religious instruction of children.

And these were merely cultural policies. But in any case, the international court did not ask any Chinese official what they were thinking on such and such a date; they called in no psychic mediums to testify.

The Chinese committed genocide by shutting down monasteries and religious schools!

How much stronger is the case against Genocide in the west, where ALL white countries and ONLY white countries are bringing in hordes of nonwhites as a matter of Government policy.

[GOT REMOTE]

I don't see how any reasonable person could equate immigration with mass murder or genocide as it seems St-George is trying to do. It seems to me like an entirely intolerant attitude for someone to have in this day and age. As well I am sorry but the death of the entire Beothuk race is a fact not my personal belief.

I have never met a non white in my life who would tolerate becoming a minority in their own country.

[Tom Paine]

But its not happening, in any way, shape or form, so this theoretical matter is irrelevant; however, as I have said, I do condone it, or at least fail to care about it.

St George, all Western nations allow it, because we economically need it; equally, the intent is not there in any way; you have failed to show intent or occurence, and I begin to think your argument is too weak for you to be able to.

[happyho]

Do you condone the same thing happening in Britain with mass non white immigration?

Is your concern only with the 'plight' of white people?

[St George]

Generally their borders are open; the thing is, they are losing more people than enter, due to poor economies and social conditions, and these emigrants are immigrating to the West. Some exceptions exist, and I would guess Zimbabwe was one of them; but then, Zimbabwe has a racist government.

Yes. You are right. Perceptive.

No one wants to live in the Third World. So why bring the Third World to the First?