The BNP

[Rhah]

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

ergo, Racist is a code word for white?

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.
Genocide against the white race? To what do you refer? Last time I checked, the Imperial Army of Nigeria wasn't annexing and exploiting any parts of Europe (or anywhere for that matter, mainly because it doesnt exist due to them being to bloody poor.)
I'm guessing that you are trying to imply that there is some sort of conspiracy to destroy the "White" race by means of interracial marriages and mixed race children? And I thought I was paranoid!!
Immigration and assimilation of other cultures may well be a problem, but attitudes like this only help exasperate the situation.

[Freddie]

I can’t believe we managed to fill 27 pages of posts concerning the BNP. At the end of the of day they are a minority party just kike the greens, UKIP, English Democrats etc. They will not in life time ever be a force to be reckoned with. There only hope is that we change over to peritoneal representation

[clementine]

ergo, Racist is a code word for white?

Sorry, I don't follow your logic.
Genocide against the white race? To what do you refer? Last time I checked, the Imperial Army of Nigeria wasn't annexing and exploiting any parts of Europe (or anywhere for that matter, mainly because it doesnt exist due to them being to bloody poor.)
I'm guessing that you are trying to imply that there is some sort of conspiracy to destroy the "White" race by means of interracial marriages and mixed race children? And I thought I was paranoid!!
Immigration and assimilation of other cultures may well be a problem, but attitudes like this only help exasperate the situation.

Rhah, genocide is not defined by violence, much less military invasion. If you will read the Genocide Treaty, you will find that genocide is any action that is aimed at ending a race or ethnic group. Most of the methods listed do NOT involve killing anybody.

You are stuck on the standard anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews bit.

If you will READ what I wrote, you will see that it SPECIFICALLY points out that the present nonviolent program of genocide against whites would be recognized instantly as genocide if it were practice against the BLACK race:

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

In case you feel like READING it this time, here is what I said again:

Liberals and respectable conservatives say there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/

[Rhah]

If you will READ what I wrote, you will see that it SPECIFICALLY points out that the present nonviolent program of genocide against whites would be recognized instantly as genocide if it were practice against the BLACK race:

Yes, what you said is (despite the meandering metaphor) pretty clear. And you may well have a point, except that the hypothetical situation you describe is not analogous to the immigration situation in western Europe at all.
Please, provide some evidence of this "ongoing genocide of the white race" that you seem to be so convinced of? Increasing immigration is not related to some sort of "final solution" for the white race, it is related to globalisation, regional instability and economic opportunities. You'll get no argument from me regarding the level of immigration, (especially illegally) and that there has to be a cut off point, but to try and insinuate that this is some sort of a concious effort on the part of other races to destroy the white race is slightly absurd.
I'll concede that you may not have meant that it was necessarily a concious effort on their part, but that is the impression I got from your post.

I should also note that I haven't read the link you've provided, because I am at work and would rather not lead my employers to believe that I am visiting what for all I know could be some sort of Far-right naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews website.
If there is anything on the site that is relevant to the conversation, I'd appreciate it if you could copy and paste it into the forum (assuming it doesnt break the forum rules obviously)

[Lancea Quantum]

"final solution" for the white race

You sound like some sort of Jewish person seeking revenge... You need help if you believe there is a genocide of white people happening right now. Don't believe everything you read on random websites.

[St George]

Yes, what you said is (despite the meandering metaphor) pretty clear. And you may well have a point, except that the hypothetical situation you describe is not analogous to the immigration situation in western Europe at all.

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

[VALIS]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

only 1 post and i like you already,great post!

welcome to TWC

[Tabell]

I agree with most of what St. George said, except the parts about america. I dont see that it matters whether america is white or not, or whether britain is white or not even. The fact that Britons are white is just a part of them. If Britons were being replaced by say the italians I would complain, even though the italians are white.

[Rhah]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

Have I ever seen a Muslim? Considering I live and work in North west London I'd can quite safely say that yes, I have seen one or two, here and there.

"The British are encouraged to have interracial sex"? Please, provide me some evidence of this, or at least some sort of theory you have. How are we encouraged to do this? I always thought it was down to something called "Human Nature", but perhaps I am wrong.
(Actually, I think I've anticapated your answer to this, but I'll wait and see)

As for Americans, again, please define "American"? Are "true" americans only of European descent? I was always led to believe that the United states was a cultural "melting pot" and that (since the 60's anyway) all American citizens were equal.
If the UK or US want to close their borders and cut back on immigration, then good for them. I would hope that they would only do this for economic reasons, not purely based on bigoted Xenophobia.

Do you know the reason why racial abuse is such a taboo?? Its because people with half a brain realised that it was outdated, unnecessary, unscientific and that it had no place in a modern civilised world.
I,for one, am glad that people feel that they can't insult another race.... It means that slowly but surely, the idea of racism is being defeated.
If that means morons like Nick Griffin end up doing time, then all the better. Most of the BNP are nothing but football hooligans with delusions of grandeur anyway, so prison is really the best place for them.
You want to talk about the problems with muslims integrating themselves into western society, then thats a different subject. Islam is (and please note the difference) not a race, but a religion

[LoZz]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

muslims make up less then 6 percent of the population, 93 % of the country is white, 7 out of 10 are white christian, how do you exspect them to be a minority in less then 50 years? muslims are not rabbits.

[Shaun]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

That is the biggest heap of bovine faeces I have heard this month, British are not encouraged to have interracial sex at all! Where did you hear that from? I can confirm to all the non Brits that we are not encouraged to have interracial sex. We are not discouraged from it either, if we want to we can but we are not pressured into doing it at all as the poster says.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Yeah, but since that dosent happen there is no genocide.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

Real Americans became a minority hundreds of years ago with the mass immigration of Europeans. So Americans have always been a Minority since the Euro's immigrated. And what does it matter anyway?

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Prove it.
And I would also like to know what the point is in your (unbacked) assertion, to me it seems like you are just trying too hard to make immigration sound bad, you failed to mention a single thing on why California is getting worse with increasing Ethnic minorities.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

No I seem to remember Nick Griffin saying that some murdered black boy was also a drug dealer and such.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

See above.

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

A backed up assertion and an actual on going genocide might have been better proof.

[Brian1980]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that.

How does that work? The English will be a minority buy 2060? You need to check you homework mate because there are around about 50 million English people living in England, asylum seekers, foreign workers, foreign students etc can’t make more then 2-3 million people.

[Lancea Quantum]

Of course it is. Have you ever seen a Muslim? The English are estimated to be a minority in England by 2060. You can bet it will be much sooner than that. The British are encouraged to have interracial sex.

This alone more than exceeds the UNs definition of genocide. Look it up.

Look over at the US. Americans will be a minority, according to the Associated Press, by 2043. Already 1 in 3 inhabitants of America are not American. That's 100 million people.

California is the most populous state in the USA. It once was one of the whitest. But now Americans there ARE the minority.

Another check. Can you even talk about race? Wasn't the BNP thought-crimes trial all about what they really meant when they said that Islam would be the end of Britain? Didn't they jump all over themselves to say that Islam meant Islam and not "Asian." In Britain, one is not even allowed to mention race. They didn't. They were tried for what they thought.

Just think: the leadership of a political party in Britain was arrested since they may have thought about race!

What better proof of ongoing genocide is that!!!

What you are saying is making sense to me and i agree with it (most of it anyway). Although I would like to see some evidence about certain things you post. But you are 100% right about the BNP paragraph. They stand up for the British so get arrested etc for it.

[Shaun]

What you are saying is making sense to me and i agree with it (most of it anyway). Although I would like to see some evidence about certain things you post. But you are 100% right about the BNP paragraph. They stand up for the British so get arrested etc for it.

Please tell me why being extremely racist is standing up for the British people.

[eurolord]

Shaun,

You are well aware that if you stand up for true British or English values you will be branded a racist, especially on this forum.

I am proud to stand up for the UK, if that makes me a racist pig or neo nazi, then so be it.

Eurolord

[Lancea Quantum]

Please tell me why being extremely racist is standing up for the British people.

They are the only party to tell the truth about Islam, all other parties are too affraid. If standing up for the white working class is racist, then they are.

[LoZz]

can i ask you guys (eurolord, lance, st.george)

what exactly is this major white working class pregudice your talking about? most white working class people are asbo scum bags who drop out of school and go on the doll.

as for the opression of english/british values why dont you look who is doing it, the banning of christmas lights for example, its done by white parish/town councilers not some evil muslim, they use muslims as an excuse, the real reason their banned is cost.
the banning of nursery rhymes and certian words by the PC brigade is all done By white people, the muslims etc never asked or demanded any of it, infact their just as anoyed as you are at being made an escape goat

[Carach]

what exactly is this major white working class pregudice your talking about? most white working class people are asbo scum bags who drop out of school and go on the doll.

You think the majority of working class have asbo's?

statistics?

Thats a very wide generalisation you got going there Lozz... im not allowed to generalise islam but your allowed to insult the white working class?

[sephodwyrm]

im not allowed to generalise islam but your allowed to insult the white working class?

Thing is, you are both guilty of the alleged crimes.

I don't see any difference.
But LoZz tends to be more agreeable. He probably won't get worked up as much.

[Shaun]

Shaun,

You are well aware that if you stand up for true British or English values you will be branded a racist, especially on this forum.

Blatantly false. Standing up for british values does not in anyway need to incorporate racism.

I am proud to stand up for the UK, if that makes me a racist pig or neo nazi, then so be it.

Eurolord

Well, if standing up for British values makes you a racist then you are obviously not standing up for proper British values (as Britain is multicultural), as proper British values do not conflict with racial equality.

They are the only party to tell the truth about Islam, all other parties are too affraid. If standing up for the white working class is racist, then they are.

No, they are the only Islamophobe party. They think they are telling the truth about Islam, but are instead extremely misguided. Dont listen to them.

what exactly is this major white working class pregudice your talking about? most white working class people are asbo scum bags who drop out of school and go on the doll.

Hmmm, I doubt that very much. Ofcourse the white working class wont be as educated as the middle and upper classes, but they are certianly not scumbags and all on ASBO's.