Vietnam and Philippines are not Allies, England, France, Germany, Canada are allies. Vietnam and Philippines are in the US sphere of influence. Play some victoria 2 and see the difference. Allies are between equals or close to equals.
Vietnam and Philippines are not Allies, England, France, Germany, Canada are allies. Vietnam and Philippines are in the US sphere of influence. Play some victoria 2 and see the difference. Allies are between equals or close to equals.
Where have i claimed that China has intervened? No where. I do not have to prove a claim I never made.
I don't even understand the bolded part. is English your second language? Could you re-phrase the question?[/QUOTE]
No, No, it was a short lived republic. And then came under US influence. I'm telling you for sure.
Did i say the US had the right to bully its neighbors? Nope. You are deflecting and still refuse to answer my question.
You forget to capitalize the I and yet you claim English is my second language. Deflecting? Why no sir, all nations given the power of a superpower have the superb right to intervene in their spheres of influence. The list shows that the US have exceeded their spheres of influence. You are telling me that China has intervened, and that would mean bullying in all rightly sense.
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they have the cheek to criticise China for peacefully and diplomatically voicing its territorial concerns whilst they have been bombing poor people in flip flops for 30 years now. The nation that spends more on its military than every other nation combined criticises China for increasing its military spending or modernising its forces. The world is sick of their bullying and their cheeseburgers.
China- Superpower.
Definition of Superpower:
A superpower is a state with a dominant position in the international system which has the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests. A superpower is traditionally considered to be a step higher than a great power.
America is doing that.
China isn't.
Hmm...agreed. They do this all so they can sell their weapons. They start wars because of it. Now look at it, they've all said I don't understand realism and world concept. Obvious reaction. Yes, the world is sick. Any Empire would do the same. Any superpower would do the same. China has a right to do what she wants in her sphere of influence. If she's being a bully, then why hasn't she invaded the nations? She hasn't. But the Amercians have.
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No, i'm still right. You merely described how it happens. i was merely saying it shouldn't have to happen.
No, it isn't silly. Its a poor justification. Just because the US has done it, does not mean China gets to do it too. Is this really so hard to understand?
I don't think America is an angel. Thats poor assumption on your part. Nor have i been claiming they are.
And i love how you justify their bullying. Interests of peace my ass. If China was interested in peace they would be bullying their neighbors for a bunch of island they have zero claim to.
You didn't answer my question. Answer please.
And this makes it ok for China to bully its nieghbors because????
Oh wait it does. Just more poor justification.
Do you know what i find funny. You criticize the US for what it has done, but when China is doing it now, you attempt to justify it. Prime example of hypocrisy.
Lemon, stop. Jin proved this already. The Philippines is an ally, and Vietnam is becoming a US ally.
Look, ignoring the important points yet saying we have no brains. What a wonder.
If China was interested in peace they would be bullying their neighbors for a bunch of island they have zero claim to.
So why haven't they invaded them yet like the US have done in the past?
The Amercians will sure def come up with some counterattack. Heheh. I'm ready for it. Give me your best shot.
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Source it then. Last time i checked, The Philippines was a Spanish colony until the US took it from them in 1898, then the US gave them their independence in 1945 or 1946.
No, i am not. China is bullying its neighbors. The OP presents that quite well.
You also have still refused to answer my question while i answered yours.
Because their military is too weak and the nations have the protection of the US.
Now stop deflecting and tell me why its only wrong when the US bullies its neighbors, and not China.
many Americans you will come across on the internet on forums such as these are young men who were born into a unipolar hyperpower world where the US reigns supreme and can do what it likes, torture who it likes and bombs who it likes. They fear a rival. They do not understand how people can "resist" US hegemony. It is an alien concept to them. They play Call of Duty on their Xboxes and they believe the earth is 4000 years old. Diplomacy and negotation is seen as weakness. Master Chief never negotiates in Halo. They dont understand it.
They fear China because it is becoming strong. They fear a new balance of power.
They are considered an Allie now because there are no sphere of influence anymore. Even you got to admit that the relationship between US and Philippines is different from US England.
Why does China have to be right? Can't it just be wrong like the US or unlike the US however you want to look at it. Why is being right so important.
Not gonna argue the allies thing, but to the second point even the American motto is to protect her INTERESTS, not justice or democracy or whatever.
de gaulle even said France has no friends only interests.
I only said wrong because you keep wanting to say China is wrong. But in my eyes a country's right or wrong is not really that important in the face of its national interest. When Germany was invading France it didn't matter it was wrong, all it matters was that France was no match for the Germans and it was in German's interest to win.
i wonder what they make of brony memes in China
Complaining about the subject changing to American history while you're the one who brought up the subject doesn't look too good. We're discussing CHINA. What CHINA is doing in the South China Sea. Right now. It's disgusting, and your attempts to justify it even moreso. Mental ing gymnastics if I've ever seen them.
You uhm. Wat. Oil in Afghanistan? So do you even know where this country is on a map? 's sake man.China has every right to do what it wants. It is becoming a superpower. No one tells the US off for taking oil freely from Afghanistan which belong to the Afghan people. No one tells the US off for intervening in Vietnam. No one tells the US to supply which oil they wants.
China can do what they want? Yeah, screw every single independent people around them, they're really just Chinese rebels anyways. What do they know? These douchers are just trying to undermine the regime, man. I'm tellin ya. The Phillipines aren't even a real country, have you ever seen them? Until I see proof that they're real and not just CIA forged pictures, I'm going to have to go ahead and say they're a lie. This is all, like, an evil Amerikkkan conspiracy.
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Her allies are her interest but only certain allies and at certain times. If her allie proved to be not in American interests to get involved then America won't America isn't the Earth's guardian Angel, but the world's super power.
No, but if it is in America's interest and they could do it then yes.
Why do you keep saying right or wrong, what does it matter who's right or wrong. When you fight with your girlfriend does it matter if who's right? Only who has to surrender/apologize which as it turns out is me.
Cool, then you can't complain about how the US acts around the world as long as its in their interests, correct?
Do you realize the world runs on international law? Do you understand this isn't the 1800s and nations can't do whatever they want?
And i think you may have confused the way i used the word "right." I did not mean it in the notion of right and wrong, but what justification China had for its actions.