Chinese maritime aggression. Other East Asian nations now remember why they like America

[sephodwyrm]

China did not lay any serious claim on them until the nationalist era. This isn't the first time China has pulled anything stupid about it either, considering they killed 70 Vietnamese troops in '74. They then killed 60 Vietnamise seamen in the 80s as well.

China did not lay any serious claim on these areas because of this Chinese concept:
All your bases are belong to us. You pay tribute. We give gifts.

And then Western powers arrived to introduce modern concepts of sovereignty and jurisdiction.

About ethnic makeup of Taiwanese people, 98% are Han Chinese.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
Han, again, is a super-ethnic group.

[athanaric]

The only yellow people can be found in Springfield, USA and areas with outbreaks of jaundice.

It's more practical to call people by their skin colour, whether exaggerated or not, than making up retarded terms.

Sure, under your terminology.

Also called "English".

Just accept that different countries use the same words differently, and concede that your post really had no relevance, as you are picking apart a non-existent mistake.

I'm picking apart that you're apparently seeing the world through a Chinese imperialist lens.

[Chukada1]

It's more practical to call people by their skin colour, whether exaggerated or not, than making up retarded terms.


Also called "English".


I'm picking apart that you're apparently seeing the world through a Chinese imperialist lens.

I live in Canada, where real English is spoken.

[MariusHealth]

Soooooooooo to clear out some misconceptions... there are two Chinas claiming to be THE China. We often equate Chinese with being a PRC citizen. Because we forget or ignore the ROC. Because the ROC only rules Taiwan while China rules most of the rests of their claims. Like Tibet which the West again doesn't see as Chinese... The Chinese speak Chinese. I mean Mandarin, which is a language. Or maybe a group of languages. And there are other Chinese langu... I mean dialects. Yes, because calling them part of the same language implies that they're all part of the same nation. All under heaven. Imagine Germany using such retorics haha! Also when talking about reunification we mean what -the PRC annexing the ROC? How about the opposite? Not gonna happen I know, but still.

Regarding the Caucasian/yellow questions. If we are not to refer to them as mongoloid, yellow or whatever then what do we say? I'm easily mislead by the term Asian.

Caucasian as well - I would naturally envision a Georgian or the like while to an American it means white? Are Arabs Caucasian? I wouldn't usually call an Arab white.

[Condottiere 40K]

Arabs are Semitic. Mostly.

Colloguially, Caucasian implies a Western/Northern European origin.

[PikeStance]

Arabs are Semitic. Mostly.

Colloquially, Caucasian implies a Western/Northern European origin.

Colloquially to where?
This is the problem with "race." It is subjective.
Semitic is not a racial designation, it is a language group.

It is probably better to divide groups based on the haplogroups than subjectively on race.
At least is more objective. Another form is too examine language families distribution, but this too is subjective. If you use in conjunction with genetic research it is less so.

If you check out the Haplogroups you will quickly discovered just how diverse the distribution really is. Even China, who on first inspection appear similar, are a very diverse genetic pool. I have to say, i am starting to pick out significant differences that I didn't see before.

What is really interesting is that there are greater differences between early homo sapiens and modern homo sapiens than there are among the different groups inhabiting the planet today.

[Slaytaninc]

This whole thread jumped on the crazy train pages ago.

EDIT: It just amuses me that the same people continue to address the same things ad infinitum.

[Exarch]

You may be better suited to speak about Taiwan but your knowledge about British colonization seems to be rather limited. The British government was generally not keen on killing or slaughering the local population. This could at times bring them into conflict with the colonists (like for example the British government preferring to keep colonials to the east of the Appalachians and trade with the Indians) but genocide was not the preferred British method for conquest.

with respect, Adar, my knowledge of British colonisation is not that limited. British colonial conduct towards say the native Australian aboriginals can't be defined as anything other than extermination and cultural genocide.

btw i hope people here realise that thinking you can only be a han in order to be Chinese is the same way as believing you can only be WASP (white anglo saxon protestant) to be a true american. Utter ridiculousness.

[Mangalore]

If Qing China sets a historical precedence, then the line would be in the Gulf of Tonkin as of the peace made with France in 1887.

If they settled for the Paracel island, then they would be playing in the same league as everyone else in the area but the 9 dash line is just stupid.

The line is in/right through the Gulf of Tonkin and if they claim the Spratelys are Chinese the red line makes kind of sense even if it is not very diplomatic? That Taiwan settles for the Paracels as the southernmost part of Taiwan is no concern of Communist China which sees itself as successor of the Chinese Qing Empire.

[JasonDomination]

This would be fantastic for a total war game. Total War: Politics. You could pick whichever side of an argument and battle it out over the interwebs. The game would never end, either.

[Condottiere 40K]

DLC: Sock Puppets - five euros.

[PikeStance]

This would be fantastic for a total war game. Total War: Politics. You could pick whichever side of an argument and battle it out over the interwebs. The game would never end, either.

You might want to check out the gaming forums on TWC. I am sure there is a game with a geopolitical angle.
If you like this sort of thing, you could play the game Diplomacy on line. Exercise caution when choosing to join a game- they do have cheaters (metagamers)- they do their best to catch them, but they don't always do. It is best to go in the forum and join games that way.